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Author Topic: Songs That Set New Lyrics to Melodies of "Careless Love" or "Corinna, Corinna"  (Read 3066 times)

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Hi all,
Over the years I've noticed that the melodies of "Careless Love" and "Corinna, Corinna" have often been used to set new lyrics, and I thought it might be interesting to think of as many of these songs as we can.  Just to start out, the following songs use the melody of "Corinna, Corinna":
   * "Hold Them Puppies"--Leroy Carr
   * "The Northern Starvers Are Returning Home"--Mississippi Sheiks
These songs used the melody to "Careless Love"
   * "Be True, Be True Blues--Henry Sims with Charlie Patton
   * "County Jail Blues"--Funny Papa Smith
Can you think of other songs that employ either of these melodies but with different lyrics?
All best,
Johnm

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Hi all,
The Mississippi Sheiks' recording of "Sweet Maggie" used the melody of "Corinna, Corinna".  Any others out there?
All best,
Johnm

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"Blues oh Blues" by Ma Rainey might be another to Careless Love melody:

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Good find, Harriet!  That one certainly fits the job description.
All best,
Johnm

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How about the Rev.'s powerful "12 Gates to the City (Oh, What a beautiful city)"? Fairly similar to "Careless Love".

Hap-hap-happy new year to all.

Bob

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Hi all,
Furry Lewis' rendition of "Roberta" that first appeared on his Prestige Bluesville album, "Back On My Feet Again", was done to the tune of "Corinna, Corinna", and even used several of the same verses, just subtituting Roberta for Corinna.
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Does this one count for the Corinna Corinna melody?

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It sure sounds like it to me, Prof.  Good one!
All best,
Johnm

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Alberta Alberta is an old song with its own provenance.  To me seems like a very different melody indeed.

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You are wrong.  Snooks has some different harmonic touches, but he sings essentially the same melody as John Hurt, Merle Haggard, et al used for "Corinna, Corinna".  The Bob Dylan version of "Corinna, Corinna" uses a different melody for "Corinna", as does Taj Mahal's.  There is no one set melody commonly in use for "Alberta", and Snooks' version uses the same lyrics as the traditional "Corinna, Corinna", simply substituting Alberta for Corinna in the lyrics.

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The Mississippi Sheiks (1930) and Jimmie Gordon (1938) use the Corinna Corinna melody for their versions of Alberta.  Jazz Gillum's version (1937) is a different song both musically and lyrically, and would seem to be based on DarK Road and related tunes. 

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Robert Jenkins, Butch Cage and Willie B. Thomas base I Had a Dream Last Night (All I Had was Gone) on Corinna. On the (great) Arhoolie disc, Old Time Black Southern String Band Music. Willie throws in a verse of Alberta for good measure.

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See that my Grave is kept clean Blind Lemon,
Mississippi County Farm Blues Son House
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McTell's melody for the tune he calls "Lay Some Flowers on My Grave" is definitely the same as Careless love:


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Good  catch joebanjo!

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Cl?oma Breaux Falcon did a version of "Careless Love" as "L'amour indiff?rent":




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I believe Hattie Burleson's wonderful "Bye Bye Baby Blues" qualifies for "Careless Love":

« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 08:36:32 AM by Johnm »

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Hi all

I wonder if Texas Alexander's "Mama I Heard You Brought It Right Back Home" would qualify as a "Careless Love" -like melody? It's note a note to note reproduction, but sounds close enough at least to my ears.
Anyway, it's a really pretty tune, with pianist Eddie Heywood beautifully backing Alexander. Unfortunately the song isn't on YouTube, but those of you who have access to Spotify can hear it here:

http://open.spotify.com/track/0jQE6xnwJm7u8hNoNZRSbs

Cheers

Pan

Edited to add: I see that Johnm has already transcribed the lyrics and analyzed the song form on this thread:
http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=460.30
« Last Edit: March 23, 2014, 04:15:02 PM by Pan »

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Hi all,
I found this over on YouTube.  It's one I'd not previously heard done to the melody of "Careless Love".  It's Bob Coleman's "Sing Song Blues", which he played out of F position in standard tuning.  It seems like its mis-titled, should be "Sing Sing Blues".



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Johnm
« Last Edit: February 24, 2018, 09:14:53 AM by Johnm »

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Hi all.

I've come across two tunes that should fit the Careless Love mold.

Little Hat Jones' very beatiful "Bye Bye Baby Blues"



And the equally pretty "The truth About The Thing" by Leroy Carr



Cheers

Pan

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Not different lyrics but the Leake County Revelers sneak a pass or two at "Careless Love" into "Leake County Blues."

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Hi all,
Papa Charlie Jackson does not put new lyrics to it, but he uses the melody of "Careless Love" for his solo on "Mumsy Mumsy Blues", much as did the Leake County Revelers in the "Leake County Blues" that Chris cited.
All best,
Johnm

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Where's that McTell photo from? Last Session LP? I've never seen it anywhere.

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Taken at the same time as the Last Session pic. It seems to have surfaced quite recently. I would assume Sam Charters had it from Ed Rhoades.
Chris

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Stefan Wirz has a decent jpeg of the picture on his Blind Willie McTell page, with this attribution:

Blind Willie McTell 1956
source: Robert Langmuir Collection
at Robert W. Woodruff Library, Emory University
photographer: Ed Rhodes


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Hi all,
Here's another song done to the tune of "Careless Love" that I just found:  Josh White's "Southern Exposure" (weird title).  He works out of Vestapol here as he did on many of his early Gospel numbers, and he is slick, slick, slick.



SOLO

Well, I work all the week in the blazin' sun
Lord, I work all the week in the blazin' sun
Lord, I work all the week in the blazin' sun
Can't buy my shoes, Lord, when my payday come

I ain't treated no better than a mountain goat
I ain't treated no better than a mountain goat
I ain't treated no better, Lord, than a mountain goat
Boss takes my crop and a poll tax takes my vote

SOLO

I'm leavin' here 'caouse I just can't stay
Yes, I'm leavin' here, just can't stay
Lord, I'm lea-leavin' here 'cause I just can't stay
I'm goin' where I can get more decent pay

All best,
Johnm
« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 08:37:57 AM by Johnm »

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Hi all,
Here's one that uses the melody of "Corinna, Corinna", "Sweet Alberta" by the Jackson Blue Boys, who were evidently Bo Carter, Walter Vinson and Charlie McCoy.  Here is the trio's performance:



All best,
Johnm
« Last Edit: September 14, 2016, 08:52:54 PM by Johnm »

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Hi all,
Random and Rare just posted "Troublesome Mind Blues", by Bert M. Mays, recorded in 1927, on his youtube channel, and it uses the melody to "Careless Love".  Here it is:



All best,
Johnm

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Careless Love.


 


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