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Author Topic: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?  (Read 2338 times)

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Offline frankie

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2011, 02:44:17 PM »
Also, Bobby Leecan and Robert Cooksey seemed to be in the New York City/New Jersey/Philadelphia area a lot just a year before and might still have been around.     
I swear...  BEFORE seeing this, and when I first saw the clip...  that the harp playing reminded me of Robert Cooksey's playing...  mebbe just the 1st position...

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2011, 06:46:52 AM »
I was unable to google up any photos of Leecan & Cooksey. Anyone know of any?
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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2011, 03:25:57 PM »
OK then, in view of the lack of evidence to the contrary, the admittedly difficult but not impossible to decipher matchup of complexion and bridge of nose construction, his presence in the area at the time, and his ability to produce the kind of clear single string vibrato laden sound that pokes its head through the dinn on occasion, I am declaring this to be the only extant film of Curley Weaver, which would most likely make the harp player Eddie Mapp. Dispute me with reasoned argument if you can. >:D
And Slack I demand a Hanukkah Harry Emoticon!
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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2011, 03:45:48 PM »
Dispute me with reasoned argument if you can. >:D

I would, but you know what they say about trying to reason with the unreasonable... ;)

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2011, 04:41:48 PM »
Why unreasonable?

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2011, 04:56:21 PM »
Indeed! Btw Forget the Hannukah emoticons. I looked them up they all suck. I'll have to make my own. Really no one sees a resemblance?
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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2011, 05:41:40 PM »
Probably NOT Curley - his daughter would have mentioned something as momentous as that to us!

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2011, 08:41:17 PM »
Any ideas then?
That's probably an interesting interview. Is it in print?
« Last Edit: December 21, 2011, 08:58:21 PM by Mr.OMuck »
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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2011, 09:14:47 PM »
Blues and Gospel Records lists some of the band members, a few of whom were semi-regulars on Bessie Smith recordings. Given that, it would seem even more possible to me that the guitarist would be drawn from that circle. For what it's worth, B&GR lists the "musical fragments" as unknown guitar and unknown harmonica. It also has the following: "It has been alleged that the following are also present on this soundtrack: Sidney DeParis, t; Bernard Addison, g."

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2011, 05:57:55 AM »
Some big "ifs"--

If the company or entity that made the film (and perhaps others like it) kept records, and if those records are still extant, and if they could be located, they might provide some leads. If it was necessary to belong to a guild or union if one were to appear in a film at the time and if those records are still extant, they might provide some leads as well.

Obviously, it's a long shot, but it's not impossible.

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2011, 07:02:48 AM »
Where's Chris Albertson when we need him?
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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2011, 03:45:49 PM »
Well Joe Bellulovich says if Frankie thinks its Cooksey on harp then it probably is. That makes the guitarist likely to be either Leecan or Albert Martin.
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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2011, 04:53:40 PM »
Could just be some guy nobody ever heard of O'Muck. Bessie's 3rd cousin, nephew or something.

I mean you can't hear very much that might indicate he was a known recording artist.

And if he really was any good it's more likely they'd have featured him a bit more.

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Re: Can you identify the guitar player and Harmonica player in this film?
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2011, 06:57:00 PM »
Male blues guitar players with recognizable names who recorded in and around New York City in June of 1929 include Lonnie Johnson, Joe McCoy, Little Hat Jones (in town with Texas Alexander), and the group of Georgia musicians who came up to Long Island City to record for QRS:  Curley Weaver, Eddie Mapp, Guy Lumpkin, and James Moore.  Also, Bobby Leecan and Robert Cooksey seemed to be in the New York City/New Jersey/Philadelphia area a lot just a year before and might still have been around.   

dj, I have to ask, how on earth did you pull that data together?

 


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