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Wouldn't you know that fellow'd get get somewhere like that. He came into Greenville when I was home on leave and he gives a dance, There were posters up and everything about him being Blind Boy number two. The people there wouldn't let me go until I got and played a number and the last time I saw Brownie after I played my number was him walking out the door and going to catch a bus out of town. - Baby Tate speaking of Brownie McGhee, from the liner notes to "The Blues of Baby Tate, See What You Done Done" Bluesville # 1072

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Offline uncle bud

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Lyric transcription requests
« on: June 07, 2010, 05:25:35 AM »
Hi all - For some reason, I just noticed that we don't have a sticky topic explaining in general the way that lyric transcriptions and requests are dealt with on Weenie, so better late than never.

Pretty simple: When asking for lyrics or help with lyrics, the best approach is to post what you have transcribed yourself first. Then other people can jump in and offer suggestions, corrections, references to other lyrics etc.

We realize English is not the first language of everyone who visits the forum and there will be exceptions to the above.

Thanks!

Offline Rivers

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 08:29:54 PM »
Also, please transcribe every line, the "x2" thing is usually inaccurate, even if it's only an accent word, "well", "oh" etc

Not being anal or anything.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 02:51:24 PM »
Dare I also mention the proper use of capitals and never that awful lower case text message stuff  >:(
(That's enough of that. Ed)

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2016, 03:49:11 AM »
I can translate the lyrics in some languages.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2020, 01:58:19 PM »
Hi all,
I thought this would be a good time to give an update on the status of the Country Blues Lyrics board.  Because I've known for some time that the lyric threads are of little educational value if they don't include performance videos of the songs being transcribed, I have added performance videos to virtually every thread on the board, with the exception of ones where no version of the performance could be found on youtube or I didn't know how to search, as in the case of some of the prison field recordings, or ones that asked for help in writing original lyrics, or questioned the origin of a turn of phrase encountered in Country Blues lyrics.  As you can imagine, this took some time to do.

For that reason, I would like to suggest new posting protocols for the Country Blues Lyrics board:
   * When posting to a pre-existing thread a new song for which a transcription has not previously been posted, or starting a new thread with a request for lyrics to a song or the lyrics for a song, complete or in progress, please attach a performance video of the rendition that is being transcribed.
   * If you know that there were multiple takes of the song you're posting the lyrics to, please name the take of the song that you're transcribing and make sure that the video you attach is of the same take.  I should note that this procedure was observed scrupulously in the Blind Lemon Jefferson Lyrics thread, and it made all of the difference in the world in being able to match up the right videos with the right sets of lyrics.  (Speaking of the Lemon Jefferson lyric thread, what an amazing collaborative achievement!  Kudos to all who contributed.  I added videos up to page 22 of the thread, of which there are 49 pages.  There are some alternate takes listed after that, but I don't know if they made it into Weeniepedia.  I will check on that.)

Please do observe these new guidelines.  I'd prefer not to be put in the position of adding performance videos to new posts on this board in perpetuity.  Thanks for your help in this, going forward.  I'm really glad to have done it because I think the board will be so much more effective as a learning and listening place now.

All best,
Johnm

 
   
« Last Edit: July 19, 2020, 02:00:22 PM by Johnm »

Offline Prof Scratchy

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2020, 03:00:50 PM »
Fantastic job. It makes such a difference having the performance videos right there on the page. Many thanks for this mammoth task!

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2020, 03:21:00 PM »
Thanks for the good words, Prof!  I had been pecking away at it for the past year or two, but in the past couple of months realized that devoting more time to it and just blitzing it for a while could actually get the job done.  I really enjoyed returning to some of these threads and re-visiting the collaboration and good humor that went into the transcription work.
all best,
Johnm

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2020, 03:51:43 PM »
John, this is so valuable, so thanks for all your effort bringing this up to date. It has prompted me to go back and review many posts, and I look forward to doing a lot more of that, especially for musicians that I wasn't familiar with. What a terrific resource! Many thanks John and those who perpetuate the practice going forward.
Jean

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2020, 04:13:52 PM »
Thanks very much John! Your hard work is very-much appreciated

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2020, 11:00:21 PM »
Thanks, Jean and Thomas, I appreciate it.
All best,
Johnm

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2020, 07:45:51 AM »
Thanks as well

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2020, 07:57:53 AM »
Thanks John for all you efforts and hard work.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2020, 11:04:16 AM »
Same.  This is an amazing resource, and going back through these threads with the recordings added has been really fun.
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Eric

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2020, 11:21:36 AM »
Quite an undertaking- and much appreciated.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2020, 09:44:02 PM »
Thanks for the good words, Harriet, Stuart, Eric and Simon.  I'm enjoying the threads too, now that the work is done.
All best,
Johnm

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2020, 09:51:08 AM »
That's a huge undertaking, John, and I agree, a very worthwhile addition! Thank you!
Chris

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2020, 11:06:39 AM »
You're welcome, Chris, and hearty thanks to you for the countless number of times you've provided a solution for  the missing or mis-heard words or phrases in the lyric transcriptions that other posters and I have been putting up in the threads here.  The accuracy of so many transcriptions is a direct result of your hearing and willingness to share what you've heard.
All best,
Johnm

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2020, 11:44:17 AM »
Thanks for that John I appreciate it!
Chris

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2020, 02:54:21 PM »
Thanks for your effort John. Weeniepedia is a incredible resource. Actually blows away most blues publications I know.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2020, 06:19:46 AM »
Thanks, Harry, and thanks for the transcriptions you've been doing lately.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2020, 12:17:18 PM »
Hi all,
If you're planning on posting a video with some song lyrics that you're transcribing or have questions about, a word to the wise: I found that a number of videos I posted to the Bo Carter thread from "novonine", concluded before the end of the song, added two-three minutes of silence to the end of the video, and in one instance, edited the video so that the verses were out of order from how they were actually recorded. I've checked all the videos in that thread by novonine to make sure they are they right length, at least, but I've not listened to all of them. I will replace them wherever possible, and I'd say the channel is to be avoided, if you want to be sure that the video you're linking to accurately captures the song you're transcribing. EDITED TO ADD: I was able to replace all of the novonine videos in the Bo Carter thread. 
I also would recommend avoiding videos by Ragtime Dorian Henry, almost all of which have been "re-mastered" and have phony-sounding reverb added.
all best,
Johnm 
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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2020, 05:01:50 PM »
Many -- maybe all -- of Ragtime DH's tracks also play at altered pitch.

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2020, 05:26:47 PM »
You're right, Al--I suspect that is part of what he considers "re-mastering".

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2020, 10:47:18 AM »
Hi all,
 
I also would recommend avoiding videos by Ragtime Dorian Henry, almost all of which have been "re-mastered" and have phony-sounding reverb added.
all best,
Johnm
It's really sad, because RDH has a made a great collection of tunes available. I'll try to remember to avoid his stuff.

Dave

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Re: Lyric transcription requests
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2020, 11:25:45 AM »
I know what you mean, Dave. I realized that if I'm going to name youtube posters to avoid, I should probably also give positive reviews to posters who do a great job. I've never had any problems with videos from the following youtube posters:
   * Traveler Into The Blue
   * randomandrare
   * Edith de Ronde
   * Stefan Wirz
   * BBYMRLCCOTN (for Old-Time)
   * sam collins

I'm sure there are some other good channels, but I've found the ones named above to be consistently good.

All best,
Johnm

 


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