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She was really an ugly woman... but when she opened her mouth - that was it! You forgot everything. She knew how to sing those blues, and she got right into your heart. What a personality she had. One of the greatest of all singers - Champion Jack Dupree quoted in Ma Rainey and The Classic Blues Singers, Derrick Stewart-Baxter

Author Topic: Charley Patton; "a jerk!"  (Read 4611 times)

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Offline Lyle Lofgren

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Re: Charley Patton; "a jerk!"
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2014, 05:10:54 PM »
Cleoma once told me this priceless Jimmy Martin quote: "The problem with bluegrass music is jealousy and stupidy."

I suspect you could say the same thing about some blues performers.

Lyle

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Re: Charley Patton; "a jerk!"
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2014, 11:54:31 PM »
The only thing I can add to this topic, seeing as how Son House (who I met as a youth - talk about scaring the bejeezus out of an 8 year old) is referenced, is that Son was kind of a clown. If you take a look at the Howlin' Wolf documentary, there's a great scene where Wolf basically calls House a drunken old fool and an embarrassment to himself. One of the highlights of the doc. Not that I don't love Son House's music, but he was "irascible" at times.

Offline Shovel

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Re: Charley Patton; "a jerk!"
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2014, 04:58:32 AM »
In Calt's book, Skip James had a response close to:  "Bah! If Patton was alive today, he'd say the same thing about Son House!"

Also, there's a quote in this thread about Rube Lacy saying Patton was a good guy, Bukka White mentioned adoring him.  His personality in his music seems good-natured.  HC Spier seemed to like him.  He seemed able to schmooze/charm his way from plantation to plantation without becoming persona-non-grata due to jerkish behavior.  And Son House is the only person I've heard saying Patton was a jerk or anything else derogatory about him.  Even Skip James complimented Patton in the Calt book and Skip James didn't compliment many from what I've read and heard.

From watching Son House in the room with Howlin Wolf, Skip James, etc. from the Newport festival, I could see him making a one-off comment while drunk that he could have contradicted 5 minutes later depending on his mood.

That said, any quotes from these guys is  a treasure.  Can take them with a grain of salt, but it's great that folks captured some of their thoughts and stories.
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