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At my age, the hard part is getting to the gig. The playing is easy - 102-year-old Fred Staton, still getting paid gigs playing tenor sax

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Offline Gumbo

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #75 on: March 20, 2011, 11:30:50 AM »
thanks uncle Bud
I have the Catfish set though and know which songs are on it! ;)  There is no info on the songs at all in the notes, although they are a good read biographically. I was hoping that someone somewhere had figured out which versions they all were. It's way beyond me! I emailed Catfish a couple of years ago but got no answer and I believe Keith Briggs is no longer with us. I don't think catfish are with us any more either ...

Lindvs
thanks for responding
the one i was thinking of is Classics in Jazz (1953) http://www.bsnpubs.com/capitol/03capitol300-449.html (H-369 about halfway down the page). Amazing what you can find on the web! i like to think i can remember zither but who knows. I should have just bought the albums i liked but the Catfish set was a bargain.

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #76 on: March 20, 2011, 11:34:19 AM »
Hiya Gumbo,
                No my copy is a 12 inch L.P..1962 It was issued.Not sure if there were other issues maybe on 10inch at some point?.
You are correct in that assumption, the catalogue number of the 10inch was 369, my copy of the 12inch LP is 1821. I've also got a couple of EPs drawn from that session. But I digress.....as usual.

it sounds like you're saying it's the same songs Bunker Hill?

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #77 on: March 20, 2011, 11:54:36 AM »
it sounds like you're saying it's the same songs Bunker Hill?
That'll teach me to jump in. I have this annoying habit of attempting to confirm a particular segment in a post, which may not necessarily be relevant to the discussion.

I'll try to be clearer. At the time I was sent that Catfish box set for review. I noted that a good proportion of the October 1944 Leadbelly Capitol sessions had been scattered throughout the three CDs rather than having them altogether.

LATER ADDITION  - here's the Capitol sessions

V/g with Paul Mason Howard, zither.  Los Angeles, 4 Oct 1944

CAP 397-4A   Ella Speed   Cap EP 2-369, LP 369, 1821
CAP 398-3A1   Rock Island line   Cap 10021, LP 239, 1821
CAP 399-1A   Tell me baby   Cap EP 1-369, LP 369, 1821
CAP 400-3A   Take this hammer   Cap EP 1-369, LP 369, 1821

Same.                     Los Angeles, 11 Oct 1944

CAP 413-3A   Irene (Goodnight Irene)   Cap 40130, EP 2-369,LP 369, 1821
CAP 413-2A    Western plain   Cap EP 2-369, LP 369, 1821
CAP 415-2A   On a Christmas day   Cap EP 1-369, LP 369, 1821
CAP 416-3A   Backwater blues   Cap 40130, EP 1-369, LP 369, 1821

V/g/p -1.         Los Angeles, 27 Oct 1944

CAP 457-1   Eagle rock -1 [inst]   Cap LP 1821
CAP 457-2A   Eagle rock rag -1   Cap 10021
CAP 457   Eagle rock rag (The eagle rocks) -1   Cap LP 238, 1821
CAP 458   Meat shakin? woman   unissued
CAP 459-2A   Sweet Mary blues   Cap 40038, EP 2-369, LP 369, 1821
CAP 460-3A   Grasshoppers in my pillow   Cap 40038, LP 1821
« Last Edit: March 20, 2011, 12:03:50 PM by Bunker Hill »

Offline Gumbo

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #78 on: March 20, 2011, 07:39:57 PM »
yep i know all those tracks by heart except that last date so i guess that's the LP i used to listen to. Makes sense if they were the only Capitol sessions!

there's an online Leadbelly discog (songs, dates and matrix numbers - no release numbers) at

http://web.archive.org/web/20060223104318/http://cycad.com/cgi-bin/Leadbelly/discog/

note this is an archive of the one that's listed at the harry lewman page



Offline Lyndvs

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2011, 03:16:41 AM »
Bunker Hill,
                Thanks for the information,the serial number of mine is 1821 as well.
Gumbo,
           I`ve never seen the Classics in jazz l.p. so thanks for the link.
            The combination of Zither and 12 String on the Capitol l.p. sounds magical.The Catfish set looks a good buy.I think the point they
were trying to make on the other forum was that it`s not an essential purchase if you have a lot of Leadbelly,no new or unissued stuff.
But surely a great buy if you`re looking for an introduction to Leadbelly`s work.
thanks both,
Lyndvs

Offline Prof Scratchy

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2011, 03:49:58 AM »
Here's a page about that 'zither'....
http://www.minermusic.com/dolceola/leadbelly.htm

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2011, 05:37:08 AM »
Leadbelly.- Capitol H 369 (10 inch "classics in jazz" US) 1953


Leadbelly.- Capitol LC 6597 (10 inch "classics in jazz" UK) 1953


Leadbelly.- Capitol T 1821 (12 inch) 1962


« Last Edit: March 22, 2011, 06:02:36 AM by Stefan Wirz »

Offline Lyndvs

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #82 on: March 22, 2011, 06:32:54 AM »


Prof,
       Very interesting link,i found the above photo looks like the one mentioned.A Dolceola,it produces an ethereal sound.
Stefan,
        Great cover scans.Wish i could find Vinyl like that for $2.50!!.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2011, 06:38:52 AM by Lyndvs »

Offline Lyndvs

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2011, 06:38:09 AM »

Another photo from the session.
lyndvs

Offline Prof Scratchy

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2011, 10:23:32 AM »
Hi Lyndvs
Can't get the photo links to work...but hope you can fix as I'd love to see these photos!

Offline Gumbo

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2011, 01:46:39 PM »
they both work for me, now, although one didn't the first time i looked

Nice to see those.
are they tuning up in that second one? it's a curious kind of concentration

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #86 on: March 22, 2011, 03:48:28 PM »
Brilliant pics. Leadbelly's trousers fit well under the arms too...

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Re: Leadbelly
« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2011, 02:10:11 PM »
 
Quote
Here's a page about that 'zither'....
http://www.minermusic.com/dolceola/leadbelly.htm[/quote]

Wow, thats so funny. I always heard that as being a Celeste or a child's piano. Who knew from Dulciolas? But I guess those guesses were not TOO far wrong. I also thought it might be a guitar tuned way up high and played by some hotshot or other....
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