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Offline Slack

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Guitars on eBay
« on: July 16, 2005, 09:35:51 AM »
Here are a few listings for guitars that are usually of interest to Country Blues players.  I have no connection with the luthier, but as an amatuer luthier (or used to be - before I started building websites) I have followed Duane Heilman's 'eBay business' for a number of years.  A fine luthier who builds and re-builds a wide variety of instruments and only advertises on eBay.  These are all no reserve auctions, with starting bids ranging from $225 to $950 --- and no bids yet! 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1&Item=7337004015

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1&Item=7336536932

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1&Item=7336535907

Cheers,
slack

Offline a2tom

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2005, 10:13:57 AM »
Anyone out there want to share any experiences with the type of 6-string rebuilt into a 12-string in the 3rd auction?  That guitar looks interesting to me for many reasons, but I am leary of the stability of such a thing, although have seen others do it as well.

tom

Offline uncle bud

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2005, 10:56:57 AM »
Didn't Paul Geremia have an old six-string rebuilt into a twelve string?

Offline Slack

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2005, 11:32:37 AM »
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That guitar looks interesting to me for many reasons, but I am leary of the stability of such a thing, although have seen others do it as well.

Duane has beefed up the guitar to accomodate the extra pounds that a 12 string would pull...  and I'm sure he would probably give you some kind of structural guarantee.  Should I invite him over to join the discussion?  He is probably not aware of weeniecampbell and the interest that these kinds of guitars might have here.

I know Geremia has fixed up a lot of these old guitars of this style -- cannot recall if he converted a 6 string.

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Offline a2tom

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2005, 11:59:05 AM »
? Should I invite him over to join the discussion??

Sure - sounds great.  Will save me having to email him  ;)

tom

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2005, 12:25:15 PM »
Alrighty... done.

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2005, 02:58:42 PM »
Actually, since he converted it from a pin bridge to a tailpiece, the stress on the top would not be much of an issue. Instead of pulling on the top, which can cause the familiar belly of a ladder braced guitar as the brace in front of the bridge rotates from the stress, the tailpiece pulls against the end of the guitar. the downward force on the bridge is created by the break angle and usually won't cause any movement of the braces. But it also has different tonal qualities than a pin bridge.
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Offline Slack

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2005, 03:33:48 PM »
Good point Wax.

Here is my email and Duane's response.  I can understand wht he might not join these kinds of forums - makes it tough to track --- but I'll still try to talk him into registering and setting a notification. ;)

---snip---
Hello John,

I'm someone's hero? That's a frightening thought! Thanks for the contact. I
just jumped over to you web site and took a look around. Interesting
stuff. How long have you been up and running? I don't usually register on
these kinds on sites, but I'll consider it. In the mean time I can answer
questions via email. As for stability of the rebuilt 6 string into a 12,
they are very stable and stronger. I have sold several of these guitars in
the past and the blues guys who buy them, seem to be very happy with them.
What they really like about them most is the smaller body size. Today's
makers build only in the dreadnaught or jumbo body sizes. While that does
meet some needs, I've found that the smaller body size can be just as loud
and much for comfortable to play. I really like the ladder braced style
for the top on these 12 strings. The sound is more authentic. I have
successfully built 6 string guitars into 12 strings from the parlor size
body to the 000 size body. I look for older, well built guitars with the
ladder bracing style. Also, the shorter playing scale, anything for 24.25"
to 25.4", works very well for tuning up to stanard pitch. I make sure the
new neck is properly supported with graphite rods plus an adjustable truus
rod. The internal bracing is always beefed up, as well as the neck and
tail blocks. I make the brass tailpiece from heavy brass plate and I like
the look. The tuners are modified Grover Stay-Tites, very well made with
no slop. Of course, I guarantee the guitar structurally and they can be
returned if the buyer is not happy. I usually offer a 48 hour aproval
period.

If you or anyone else has any questions, just let me know. I'll bookmark
your web site for now and keep track of things that way. I run a small one
man shop under the Black Bear name, don't have a web site, just eBay for
marketing. I build and repair all manner of string intruments. Again,
thanks for the contact. I'm sure we will be talking again. Feel free to
relay any of this information on you site.

Regards,

Duane Heilman
Black Bear Guitars
5010 W. Chestnut Ave. #1
Yakima, WA 98908
(509)965-4333



>> Hi Duane,
>>
>> I track your stuff as I am an amatuer luthier and I like your eBay
>> business model - one of these years I'll retire and make instruments.
>> You're my hero.  ;)
>>
>> But the reason for my email is that I also run a website devoted to
>> Country Blues and the types of guitars you are rebuilding are of
>> interest to Country Blues players.
>>
>> I've posted your auctions on the site and some members have some
>> questions about the converted 6 string - so I thought I'd invite you
>> over to the site and forum and maybe you could give those interested,
>> some feedback.
>>
>> The forum thread is here:
>> http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?amp;Itemid=74&topic=1537.0
>>
>> Please join us!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John Dodson (aka slack)
>> WeenieCampbell.com adminsitrator
>>
>>

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2005, 08:28:42 PM »
I have one of Duane's converted 12 string Parlours and it sounds GREAT!
Got the name, still workin' on the licks!

Offline Slack

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 07:02:57 AM »

Offline GhostRider

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Re: Guitars on eBay
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2005, 10:18:54 AM »
John:

Whoo boy, thats a beauty. Your an evil person to bring it to my attention, I've almost kicked the habit.

Well, I did recieve my new Gibson sunburst J-100 Extra last week....

Bad Alex,
Alex

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