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Offline CF

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2020, 04:06:33 PM »
It's a beaut of a picture. This is the guy I hear on the recordings, not the tortured soul sold to us by fans and even scholars.
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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2020, 04:30:11 PM »
After studying it for 20 minutes this looks like the real McCoy. If not it's a fantastic fake.
Looks like Guralnick and Wald contributed in the project but I've never heard of the other names involved.
And why took it so long to see the light?

This is not the unpublished McCormick photo (made at the other studio) which Mack showed Guralnick.

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2020, 05:09:56 PM »
https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-306-84526-0

It should be an interesting read.

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2020, 09:20:28 PM »
hello, friend
I've been looking at this thing too, for the past half hour, & I think it's the real thing. I can't quite make out the part in his hair in this photo, but notice the left pupil is slightly bigger. & the eyes in general look like him. Also those wrinkles in the backdrop are exact. Pretty amazing.
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Offline TonyGilroy

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2020, 01:10:02 AM »
It looks genuine to me.

For what it's worth Preston Lauterbach has written some excellent, well researched books that impressed me. I'd be astonished if this was a scam.

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2020, 06:04:55 AM »
Great, amazing 3rd Robert Johnson pic. According to his stepsister this pic was taken in Memphis and probably the same day as his cigarette photo. Same white shirt, same braces, hairs, long fingers , 14 fret Guitar, Kalamazoo a barre chord  this time at the 9th fret cos is more near to the camera. While in the cigarette photo he put a chord at the 5th fret.

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2020, 11:58:21 AM »
His chording fingers are almost the same as the studio shot. I donated to the campaign to publish this book, I can't to read it. Especially after reading the Wardlowe book.
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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2020, 07:54:19 AM »
Thanks! Fantastic.
Do everybody agrees now that the Johnny Shines/Robert Johnson duet photo is a fake?
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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2020, 06:16:22 AM »
https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/49-experts-agree-that-third-photo-of-robert-johnson-is-not-authentic/

Always felt like that last one was suspect. The new one, gives me chills. The timing of the Robert Johnson timeline mysteries is a bit eerie in terms of what's going on in society right now, in my mind anyway.
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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2020, 04:40:44 PM »
Wow. I started reading the ebook. Annye Anderson's memory is incredible. My mind is blown.
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Offline Dr Pryor

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2020, 10:53:51 AM »
Thanks for the link to Texas Monthly. I just had read there was an issue with Shines jacket backwards (or Robert's guitar if you turn the photo around).

Now, reading your different posts and links,are there two different covers to the book?

Quote: this is not the unpublished McCormick photo (Harry). Is there a chance to see this one?
Percolate, Joe! Percolate!

Offline jpeters609

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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2020, 11:07:13 AM »
Thanks for the link to Texas Monthly. I just had read there was an issue with Shines jacket backwards (or Robert's guitar if you turn the photo around).

Now, reading your different posts and links,are there two different covers to the book?

Quote: this is not the unpublished McCormick photo (Harry). Is there a chance to see this one?


The publisher of the new Johnson book, "Brother Robert," showed the book with a different cover before it was actually available, simply to have something to show. The cover with Robert Johnson's photo is the only one that was actually issued.

As for the disgraced Vanity Fair "Johnny Shines/Robert Johnson" photo, the less said the better! But the observation you make is worth noting, as it was not widely addressed. Not only was that photo NOT an image of either Johnson or Shines, it also appeared to be TWO completely different photos that were joined together in Photoshop, with one of them being reversed in the process (thus the backward coat, etc., and the very awkward intermingling of limbs). But enough of that.

The Mack McCormick photo that Harry references above has still never been released nor seen by anyone, other than the late Mr. McCormick and Guralnick. No one knows its whereabouts.
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Re: 3rd verified Robert Johnson Picture (again)
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2020, 02:58:20 PM »
Thank you for these clarifications! Hope the book will be available abroad...
Have they been keeping that (McCormick) 3rd photograph hidden because identification wasn't 100% sure?
Percolate, Joe! Percolate!

 


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