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Well I had started that about the age of twelve... see my mother had a guitar, my father made her a present of a guitar, and he taught her a few chords, but I first started on a little outfit I made with a cigar box... I made a guitar with a cigar box, had peg keys, bored holes in the head, and I had uh... the strings graduated from fishing twine down on to thread - Johnny St. Cyr, guitarist for the Jelly Roll Morton's Red Hot Peppers in an interview with Alan Lomax on how he learned to play guitar

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Offline Slack

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2004, 08:22:10 AM »
Hi Pyro,

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I hear the last part of most verses not as "...just like a submarine" but as "...just like a summer rain". Much more country sounding.

let me know what you think.

I think that "summer rain" sounds very poetic - but I still hear him saying submarine. 

cheers,
JohnD

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2004, 08:54:41 AM »
Hi all,
Not that it necessarily pertains in the Little Hat lyric, but there is precedence for the mention of submarines in Country Blues lyrics, as odd as it may seem.  I think Lemon said something like,
Got a mail train, baby, gonna get me a submarine (2)
Gonna get that Kaiser, and we'll be seldom seen.
All best,
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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2004, 05:30:41 PM »
Well, I went back to my old transcription of Kentucky Blues and using the ideas I've seen on this board, I've tried to fixed it. Here's how it sounds to me.

I got my version off an old 33 rpm record "Tex-Arkana-Louisiana Country" Yazoo L 1004

Kentucky Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

solo acoustic guitar
Standard tuning, E position
Pitched at F.

Introduction (instrumental)

(1) Instrumental

(2)Well, whilst we here tryin' 'a have our fun
S'pose the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
Well you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus I gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine

(3) Well my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
She said "Please don't let 'em kill me, Mr. Little Hat, dead"
I said "No use to worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long"
Told her not to sing this worried song
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

(4) I once'd to know the man they call him Austin Jack
Stopped and put the bloodhounds righ on my track
Course the blindest could not catch my scent
Do you know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
'Cus I left Seguine, people I's just like a submarine.

(5) Instrumental

(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I reached up and really caught them blinds
They said that's another long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus you left Seguine, you's just like a submarine

(7) Instrumental

(8) I'm gonna sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare ain't comin' here no more

(9) Well I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cus she keep on talkin' I'll ease ya in
Well you keep on talkin' 'till you make me mad
Well I tell you 'bout the money that your father had
'Cus I don't play the dozen, I declare, man, and neither the ten

(10) Instrumental

Outro

I'm still not sure about submarine vs summer rain.

I'd love to hear you comments.

Alex

Edited to reflect comments below
« Last Edit: February 10, 2008, 03:14:36 PM by GhostRider »

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2004, 09:48:56 AM »
Hi Alex,

The lyrics of this song are tough (like many others) and as a group we may never agree -  which is all part of the fun of trying to decipher tough to hear lyrics.   

I think your transcritpion is fine and don't let us necessarily talk you out of "summer rain" - there are lots of examples of these guys borrowing verses and then changing them to suit themselves.  I think the only thing I would encourage you to do, this is my personal approach, is to have the lyrics make sense.  Most often they were telling a story and the story makes perfect sense in the context and the language of the times.  (eg it helps to be familiar with southern dialect and accents) For example this verse:

6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I'm rich, I really col' turn blind

Does not make sense to me, seems forced and has some awkward usage and construction.

In any case, it's a great tune, have fun with it!

cheers,
JOhnD

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More Blues Submarines
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2004, 01:45:57 PM »
Barbecue Bob: "I'm gonna buy me a gun, a plane and a submarine, gonna kill everybody that ever treated me mean", Ease It To Me Blues

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2004, 02:43:39 PM »
Hi all:


6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I'm rich, I really col' turn blind


I assume that the "Santa Fe" refers to the railroad train of the same name, approaching LHJ and passing him at high speed (yon' being short for yonder).

I always assumed that "col' turn blind" was some sort of idiomatic expression.

Alex

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2004, 03:53:40 PM »
(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I'm rich, I really col' turn blind

Pretty sure I hear:

Well, in come the Santa Fe, just passed me and flying
Ought to see me when I reach'd up and really caught them blinds

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2004, 04:15:11 PM »
That's making more sense.  I always think of "blinds" in a generic sense to mean trains - but that probably is not right.  Is there a more specific meaning for "blinds"?  (I don't have a good dictionary handy, anyone have one handy?)

cheers,
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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2004, 05:42:32 PM »
I always think of "blinds" in a generic sense to mean trains - but that probably is not right.? Is there a more specific meaning for "blinds"?? (I don't have a good dictionary handy, anyone have one handy?)

I think "blinds" referes to a particular type of railroad car, but maybe not trains in general.? I interpreted the lyric as I heard it to describe LHJ standing by the tracks as the SF goes by - then he (with a certain bravado, I suppose) grabs hold of the moving train and climbs on board.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2005, 08:15:12 PM by Johnm »

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2004, 06:03:29 PM »
I think yur right - a kind of rail car.? I'm really diapointed in my big fat Websters 3rd New International Dictionary Unabridrged :) hasn't a clue what 'ridin' the blinds' is.? However!? I did find a cool story that puts it into context.? Do you think we could talk Peter and Phil into bringing these guys to PT?? I'd like to hear Lonnies harmonica.

They Rode the Blinds in Hard Times

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slack
« Last Edit: April 19, 2005, 08:16:00 PM by Johnm »

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2004, 11:33:11 AM »
Hi All:

This "defination" of riding the blinds comes from Hobo Terminology (www.angelfire.com/folk/famoustramp/terminology.html

Riding the blinds -To ride a train by swinging onto the vestibule at the front end of the baggage car, usually just behind the engine tender. This practice was deceptively dangerous; if the train "slacked off" while you were trying to squeeze through to the vestibule, the cars would come together and crush you in an instant.

Alex

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2004, 11:43:03 AM »
Cool... thanks Alex!

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2004, 12:23:29 PM »
I'll add the definition of blinds (from the same source).

Blinds - False door at end of baggage car. Hobo ridingplace.

alex

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2004, 08:31:24 AM »
Hi all:

I've lately become more interested in LHJ's "Rollin' From Side to Side" and want to finish off the verses. One chord has me slightly stumped. In the fifth bar he goes to the IV chord (C), but in the sixth bar he uses a chord which has an A# in the bass. I think the chord is close to

First: 3rd fret
Second: 2nd fret
Third: third fret
Fourth: 1st fret
Fifth: 1st fret
Sixth: not played

Any ideas? Sorry I don't have an mp3 to post as my only copy of this tune is on Yahoo vinyl.

Editted to add: .mp3 is now posted two posts below this one.

Thanks,
Alex
« Last Edit: December 16, 2004, 09:53:03 AM by pyrochlore »

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Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2004, 03:41:36 PM »
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I assume that the "Santa Fe" refers to the railroad train of the same name, approaching LHJ and passing him at high speed (yon' being short for yonder).
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The Santa Fe Railroad (now owned by Burlington Northern) runs in a generally easterly direction from San Antonio (sic. San 'Antone') to Houston and Galveston, arching north of I10. I believe Seguin, located a short distance east of San Antonio, was once on a branch line - probably of the Southern Pacific railway. At present, the nearest the Santa Fe main line runs is along a more northerly route through Ajax, Lockhart, Smithville, La Grange, and Sealy. Incidentally, north from Sealy, you will find Navasota. I would guess that Little Hat's reference to "submarine" is in the context of a stealthy departure from Seguin, where his love life was abruptly interrupted by Austin Jack - probably a "RR dick" or "bull".

Here's a photo of the depot in Seguin, circa 1910.
http://www.texasescapes.com/TOWNS/Seguin_Texas/Seguin_Texas.htm
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