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Jam Session / Re: Gardening
« Last post by Slack on June 06, 2021, 02:17:17 PM »
Congrats on the newborn kids John!  A C section and a leg back and at 3am.... exhausting indeed.  I'm glad everything turned out A-ok.   

Good year here for tomatoes... which is about all I do anymore.  I got them in early and we have plenty of hot weather for them... my plants are 6 ft tall and I've harvested a couple of dozen tomatoes so far.
Jam Session / Re: Gardening
« Last post by Johnm on June 06, 2021, 12:30:41 PM »
Hi all,
A very good gardening season so far in Northwest Washington. Plants that like cool weather--shelling peas, onions, garlic, lettuces and potatoes have been very happy, since it has been a cool, wet Spring for the most part. This past week had a couple of hot days (for here), in the high 70s and 80s to help the beans and tomatoes, which really like the hot weather. Ginny has found some tomato varieties that thrive out here in recent years, and I used to think you had to live in the East, Midwest or South to be able to grow good tomatoes. Other plants, like squashes, Delicata and Potmarron, are coming along nicely, as are cucumbers. It looks like we'll have a bumper crop of strawberries, too.

Kidding season has been occupying us lately, and we're both pooped. Jasmine had to have a C section, but her buckling, Nugget, is a beauty and a sweet little guy. Last night between 2:00 and 3:00 AM Lulabelle gave birth to a doeling, Nettie Lu, who had a leg back, so it was a strain for Lulabelle, but she came through like a champ in her first kidding. I'll attach a picture of Nugget.
All best,
Gitfiddles, Harps, Washboards & Kazoos / Re: Repairing a lifting bridge
« Last post by Rivers on June 04, 2021, 04:12:55 PM »
Excellent information guys, thank you very much.
Gitfiddles, Harps, Washboards & Kazoos / Re: Repairing a lifting bridge
« Last post by Stuart on June 03, 2021, 04:29:06 PM »
Hi Rivers: As Harriet mentioned, there will probably be bracing to contend with so a dry run that will reveal any potential problems is a good idea. One thing you could do once you have the bridge off, is make a template using the bridge on a piece of thin, but stiff, cardboard. You could mark and cut the holes for the 1st and 6th strings, put something--maybe nails or screws though the 1st & 6th holes in the top and align the template from inside the guitar. That will give you an idea of where the bridge is--from the underside. Even pressure is important when gluing and although the bridge plate will do a good job of distributing it, there are going to be areas beyond it that you'll want to apply clamping pressure to--as Harriet has mentioned. Of course you could simply use the bridge, but a template will allow you to mark it up if necessary.

There's a woodworkers' trick that will come in handy. There's going to be some squeeze out. Get a few plastic straws and crease them so they are square with 90 degree corners. Then trim them at the end at a 45 degree angle, corner to corner. The pointed end will fit in tight where the bridge meets the top and you can go around the bridge to remove (scoop off) any excess glue. Works like a charm. I'm not a fan of using a wet rag--or any rag--for removing excess glue because it can "size" the wood (act as a wash coat) which can cause problems when staining.

Decades ago my woodworking friends lent me a copy of Patrick Spielman's "Gluing and Clamping." It contains a treasure trove of information. I eventually bought my own copy. I checked and it's available dirt cheat from the used booksellers.
Gitfiddles, Harps, Washboards & Kazoos / Re: Repairing a lifting bridge
« Last post by harriet on June 03, 2021, 06:02:17 AM »
Rivers, I don't know the Tonk or if there is obstructive bracing involved you'll have to work around. . It could be helpful or it might be difficult to put three in.  I think I did a dry run before gluing and worked out any problems, with the two.

The little flat wood pieces on the top the way they have it was helpful , I used craft basswood and cut to size.

Gitfiddles, Harps, Washboards & Kazoos / Re: Repairing a lifting bridge
« Last post by Rivers on June 02, 2021, 05:25:19 PM »
Good idea Harriet. I find myself adapting a lot of tools to the myriad tasks I find myself tackling daily. The clamps look very like the Harbor Freight ones, without the leveler screw, and the adjustable 'anvil' screw that goes inside underneath. It may be better to buy 3 for 10% discount from StewMac. Is three enough do you think?

I see I need to measure the distance from sound hole to each target position on the bridge to be able to order the right sizes(s). And I'll get their cool spatula while I'm at it.
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the tune. I didn't have access to the recording that one was on, but I guess you don't need that now, with youtube making so many things available. Robert Pete is playing out of A position in standard tuning here, so he's either tuned a whole step high or has a capo on the second fret. I suspect the first option.
All best,
I don't know if you are attempting to be a completist here with your list of RPW tunes, but I have one from a compilation, that isn't listed here.
On My Way To Texas key of B minor. I haven't done enough studying/playing along to ID the tuning/shape he is using. I'm just playing from a Bm shape at the 7th fret.

Recorded Newport 1964 according to this YT listing:
Gitfiddles, Harps, Washboards & Kazoos / Re: Repairing a lifting bridge
« Last post by harriet on June 02, 2021, 12:41:13 PM »
You might find it useful to take a look at the photos for both the soundhole clamp with leveler and the bridge spatula to adapt what you get if you need to.

The spatula has felt at the end to make it easy to slide level without scratching, besides the rounded edges. The clamp leveler prevents drifting down of the clamp.

Hi delta57,
The extreme low tuning was to put the playing position/tuning in which Robert Pete Williams wanted to play a song in the key in which he wanted to sing it. For example, if you want to play a song in E position in standard tuning, but your best singing key for the song is B, you have to either tune the guitar a fourth low, BEADF#B, or put a capo on the seventh fret. Having a capo on the seventh fret, you lose too much of the available neck of the guitar, as well as the lower range. So you tune the guitar a fourth low.

Tuning low, and sometimes extremely low, or tuning high were not practices exclusive to Robert Pete Williams--they were a commonplace in Country Blues guitar, and Old-Time guitar, too. Maybelle Carter's favorite playing position was C position in standard tuning, but the lead singer in the Carter Family, Sara, had a low alto voice, and for many songs her best singing key was Ab. In those instances, Maybelle tuned her guitar two whole steps low, CFBbEbGC.

The tuning low had nothing to do with the condition of the guitar, its neck being warped, etc. Most of Robert Pete Williams' early recordings were played on Dr. Harry Oster's Harmony 12-string guitar, a perfectly serviceable instrument that was later owned and played by Paul Geremia. I hope this answers your question.

All best,
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