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Title: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 12, 2008, 03:53:08 AM
...has a cheap digital video recorder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1FOK9KVzVs
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 12, 2008, 07:04:40 AM
Terrific!  Very Cool!  (I just love youtube)

I can think of only one suggestion for improvement -- show more of Kim's attractive face and less of your unshaven mug.  :P Looks cold there with everyone in flannel!

So what cheap video recorder was that?  I've fooled around with a Flip recorder, about $150, fits in your shirt pocket and it did a very decent job for web quality videos.

I hope you post more of these.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: rjtwangs on February 12, 2008, 08:49:15 AM
Great!!!!!!!! Very very cool Frankie I really enjoyed it a lot, I've watched it 4 times this morning. What kind of video camera did you use??

  RJ
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: dj on February 12, 2008, 09:42:33 AM
Nice!  Makes me want to get up and dance. 
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on February 12, 2008, 10:53:39 AM
Hugely fun stuff, Frank. I went to YouTube and watched all four videos. They're great. Seeing a bunch of people playing Too Long made my day. Jazz Fiddler too.

edited by the dept of "what was I thinking"
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 12, 2008, 11:16:25 AM
Big fun! ... here is a link to all of frankie's youtube videos.

http://youtube.com/user/frankie12string
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on February 12, 2008, 11:56:14 AM
So Frank, I'm curious about the way you play the accompaniment on the Sheiks stuff on the other videos. I couldn't quite see beyond the mando neck to your right hand on those tunes, but it looks like you are playing them with a thumbpick. This is how I've fooled around with that style as well (not nearly as authoritatively thumpy as you) but I've always been meaning to try it with a flatpick. This makes me think otherwise. Are there parts in the original guitar accompaniments on the Sheiks' records that would indicate this was played one way or another? E.g. strings plucked together etc.

I look forward to more videos.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 12, 2008, 02:20:37 PM
Thanks, guys.  Its funny to see yourself, that's for sure.  Slack, I wish there *was* less of my unshaven mug...  yeesh!  While the winter has been temperate overall, last weekend was pretty cold by NJ standards...  hence the hat & flannel...  and with hair like mine, once the hat goes on, well...  the hat stays on.

We used an RCA Small Wonder - I actually got it for free when I got a high-speed connection (stop snickering, andrew!), so it's extra-cheep.  It seems to take acceptable videos.  For some reason, "Too Long" seems to have trouble playing.  Dunno if it's something I did...  maybe I should re-encode it & re-post.  It's a favorite tune of ours, so it's a bummer it doesn't seem to play smoothly.

Re: backup - I used a thumbpick on everything.  It's easier for me that way.  I find that in general, a thumbpick gives me a heavier sound than a flatpick, and I like that better for playing this kind of stuff.  I'm not sure what Walter might have done - I feel like I get closer to his sound with a thumbpick than a flatpick, but that undoubtedly says more about me than him.

These tunes make my day, too... and dj, even make me want to dance, so I'm with you there, if that doesn't sound too narcissistic.  I guess this is our way of playing socially when it's too cold to be on the street.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: rjtwangs on February 12, 2008, 03:34:28 PM
Frankie do you guys play gigs?? Or maybe house parties/concerts??

  RJ
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 12, 2008, 07:13:05 PM
Nope - no gigs.  Too much work.  We play on the street when it's nice out & we can arrange it.  Unfortunately, the guy who's playing mandolin with us is moving further north in the spring, so it'll probably get even harder to arrange just the busking stuff.  Kim and I can probably do it just the two of us, but we both really like having the mandolin in the mix.  It'll be tough when he goes...
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Rivers on February 12, 2008, 09:14:29 PM
Great stuff Frank, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on February 13, 2008, 01:27:59 AM
Yep - really enjoying it over here in the UK as well. I tipped off some friends who play fiddle, guitar and mandolin who don't normally hang around the Weenie.

You get a great feel - and that's really important.

By the way, at the risk of being decidedly un-P.C. (like I care) - I also would have liked to have seen more of the young lady and less of you blokes.  Also it would have been useful to watch your fretting hand.

Nice one Frankie.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 13, 2008, 06:55:06 AM
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Also it would have been useful to watch your fretting hand.

PP, just lean your head to the left a little.  :P

I found myself wanting to see your fretting hand as well.  Sorry to hear you are losing the mando player frank,you've really got a good thing going!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on February 13, 2008, 01:32:28 PM
This is the aformentioned mandolin player.  I won't be too far away.  The state of NJ is only so big!  At least I won't block your fretting or strumming hand with my ugly mug!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 13, 2008, 01:43:20 PM
 8)

Welcome Sam, as you can see, we've really enjoyed these videos!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on February 13, 2008, 02:17:37 PM
Welcome samjessin! Nice mando playing. It's fine if you block Frankie.  ;D  Especially if it means we get to see more of these...
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 13, 2008, 04:39:05 PM
My fretting hand?  On the two SJE numbers it's like this:  E - E - E - E - E - sometimes A - sometimes something B-like.  Nuthin' to it.  Our cameramanship (izzat a word?) & ability to edit is effectively nil, but I suppose we can try to be more aware of strategic fretting hand placement in the future.  And strategic fiddler placement, too.  She moves around a lot, though.  We might be able to recruit a friend of mine who's much more video-savvy than any of us are, so there might be hope for higher production values some time in the future - no place to go but up...
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Johnm on February 13, 2008, 05:36:55 PM
Hi Frank,
I don't usually go to youtube because I'm on dial-up, but I got so darn curious I took a look.  About thirty repeats got me through the first pass and the first verse.  You guys sound great, and congratulations to Kim and Sam(?), as well.  It's a treat to hear a group play time so well.  One of the things I like about the way that the sound turned out is that the combination of the three instruments' timbres made it sound like to me that at various times you had a banjo and dobro playing there as well.  I don't know if anyone else has had that experience, but it's fun when you hear instruments that are not being played.  Your singing sounds good, too, and I think the filming is fine for the purpose.  As for seeing your left hand, crap, people are supposed to be figuring out this stuff by ear, what do they need to see your hands for?
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 13, 2008, 06:58:53 PM
John, as somebody who only recently (since last December) got off a dial-up, I feel your pain and totally appreciate the tenacity and patience required to download even the first minute or so of a youtube video under those conditions.  Thanks for taking the time to listen & comment.

As for the comments about the left hand & camera angles...  I love you man!

ps:  if you're thinking about getting a faster connection, see if you can get verizon fios - you can bundle it up with your phone and it won't cost you so much.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Rivers on February 13, 2008, 09:07:47 PM
I think we should have a whip round to get broadband for Johnm. At least pay the installation, he can do the monthly bill!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on February 14, 2008, 01:40:52 AM
I wasn't THAT bothered about seeing the left hand.  It's just that when watching someone perform I like to see the whole picture.  Just a habit I guess.

Don't get too high-tech, Frankie, as it might lose that lovely downhome feel.  Before you know it, you'll all be in gold lam? suits and you'll be playing one of those spiky heavy metal electric guitars....  :)

Seriously though, the positive comments from all the Weenies here reflect how much we appreciate and enjoy your great performances.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 14, 2008, 05:12:29 AM
Right, I don't think either PP or I need to see your left hand to figure out an E or any other chord for that matter.  We are talking about aspects of performance and how to make an enjoyable performance even more enjoyable.  This is more apparent if you view all the videos.

I don't know about you, but when I go see a a piano concert I always sit stage left in order to watch the pianists hands - it increases my appreciation for their musicianship, it connects me with the music.  With mandolin and fiddle fretting hands so up front and prominent, it feels like yours is "missing in action".

I'll be more blunt about the other aspect, since I know your head can be a little thick at times.  :D  What PP was tip-toeing around but means in the most flattering way, is that Kim has a lot of natural sex appeal.  Any young attractive woman, with long hair partly tied up, playing a fiddle is going to be sexy - but you combine that with this funky, other worldly blues from the 30's and we say Wow.

I know you didn't think about "production" when you shot, but you did not post a still picture with an audio backing track either.  There is much to like -- exactly how you shot it.  Being close, crammed into the frame, Sam reaching to turn the machine on and off, you gently chiding Kim to wait for your count, playing without affect - all give it a very warm intimate down home feel.  So I agree with PP 100%, don't lose that feel - but try two things:  put Kim on the left so we can see her face and position yourself (or your guitar neck) so we can see your fretting hand.   8)

Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on February 14, 2008, 07:35:35 AM
What is this, MTV?

(Kim, don't do it, look what's happened to Britney...)

They're sitting around playing music in the kitchen, fer god's sake.  :P




Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 14, 2008, 07:46:34 AM
This is youtube and we want quality down home videos.  :P

The thing is -- you can use them for demos to get gigs.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 14, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
one of those spiky heavy metal electric guitars....  :)

Ooooo...   >:D >:D

Seriously though, the positive comments from all the Weenies here reflect how much we appreciate and enjoy your great performances.

I'm glad - thanks!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 14, 2008, 02:31:13 PM
I'll be more blunt about the other aspect, since I know your head can be a little thick at times.  :D  What PP was tip-toeing around but means in the most flattering way, is that Kim has a lot of natural sex appeal.  Any young attractive woman, with long hair partly tied up, playing a fiddle is going to be sexy - but you combine that with this funky, other worldly blues from the 30's and we say Wow.

Classic!  Kim read this over my shoulder and laughed out loud like Gus Cannon.  Really...  I think she was saying something, too, but I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

We'll probably record some more, I guess - who knows?  If she decides she doesn't want to, there ain't no way *I'll* be able to convince her otherwise...  when we do, we'll play around with how we're sitting.  This was just a natural extension of how we arrange ourselves when we're on the street, plus trying to fit in the frame - really!

Here's something that cracks Kim up - watch the first 3 seconds "Too Long" when she starts off the tune without us, but watch my eyebrows.  Then run the cursor back and watch it again...  repeat three or four times.  I love video...
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 14, 2008, 03:02:32 PM
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Here's something that cracks Kim up - watch the first 3 seconds "Too Long" when she starts off the tune without us, but watch my eyebrows.  Then run the cursor back and watch it again...  repeat three or four times.  I love video...

Yes, that's the 'chiding moment' that I referred too - it's a very charming moment.  You don't see eyebrow meta communication like that too often.  ;D

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Classic!  Kim read this over my shoulder and laughed out loud like Gus Cannon.  Really...  I think she was saying something, too, but I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

Was she laughing at your thick headed-ness? or may flattery? We'll never know...   :)

Well, I hope I flattered Kim enough to encourage her, and all of you to do more videos - they were really great.

Cheers,
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 20, 2008, 09:05:09 PM
Another tune - in the living room, for a change of venue, but it's just kim and me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSWmoTrSFHQ
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on February 20, 2008, 09:15:19 PM
Cool!  For a freebie recorder, both the video and sound quality are surprisingly good!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on February 21, 2008, 12:48:02 AM
Nice!  A great way to start my working day, especially as I have a potentially stressful one.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: rjtwangs on February 21, 2008, 08:45:46 AM
great stuff Frankie and Kim, I COMPLETELY enjoyed it the 4 times I've seen it this morning, so far!! Keep the hits a comin'...

  RJ
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: GhostRider on February 21, 2008, 09:40:57 AM
Frankie:

Geez, you guys sound good! But could you smile a little, Frankie.

Alex
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 21, 2008, 12:39:01 PM
Thanks guys.  Dunno if I can remember to smile until after the song is done, Alex...  a performer, I'm not.  That's my 'playing face' I guess.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Richard on February 21, 2008, 01:44:28 PM

I like it :)

I think we should all do one and then be able to put the face to the playing....
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on March 25, 2008, 07:33:43 PM
This time, a blues played without hats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t7gyUWkO-Y
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Rivers on March 25, 2008, 07:45:13 PM
Awesome work guys. What is that song?

You could do a bit more eye contact throughout (other than the serious attention-grabbing ending), it's real entertaining for the viewer to dig communication between the musicians.

Just my one little comment that takes absolutely nothing away. I loved it. That's a real good camera angle for a duo.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on March 25, 2008, 09:35:53 PM
If I look at Sam, I'll crack up.  The tune is Ishman Bracey's "Leavin' Town Blues."  I've always wanted to put it together with somebody - I sorta had to twist the poor guys arm.  Amazing that he could still play after all that.  We played it through for the first time tonight, so maybe it'll get better over time.  Maybe.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: banjochris on March 25, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
That's awesome, guys.
Thanks
Chris
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on March 26, 2008, 06:54:13 AM
If I look at Frankie I'll crack up.  man, what a mug on that guy!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on March 26, 2008, 08:15:53 AM
Great stuff. Sam's got the hard job on this one. How to sound cool without over-noodling. Nice job on a great song. Thanks for posting it, guys!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on March 26, 2008, 09:54:03 AM
Really well done. If you guys are in the crack up mode, then I suggest that you post a video with you both cracking up.

Re: Frankie's mug--you ought to put a mug in front of that guy and fill it with his beverage of choice.

Did you say that you're from Joisey? If so, where?
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on March 26, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
I, sam, am pretty much the buckle on the belt of the state.  Are you in New jersey Stuart?
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on March 26, 2008, 02:48:17 PM
Thanks, guys - it was fun to do this one...  kinda gratifying, just 'cause I like the song.

If sam is the buckle on the nj belt, and kim and I live just south of him, that puts us right on the...

that is such an uncool analogy.

We're just south of sam.

Videos that include cracking up have to include kim - not nearly as much fun without her.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Johnm on March 26, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Thanks for posting that.  Really a nice job, Sam and Frank! Re Charlie McCoy's playing, I so much prefer when he mandolin on the mandolin, rather than mandolin on the guitar, like on "Saturday Blues" and "Maggie Campbell".  You sound great and you two are playing so well together.
All best,
Johnm
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Post by: uncle bud on March 26, 2008, 04:02:19 PM
Thanks, guys - it was fun to do this one...  kinda gratifying, just 'cause I like the song.

If sam is the buckle on the nj belt, and kim and I live just south of him, that puts us right on the...

...zipper.

Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on March 26, 2008, 04:05:09 PM
I, sam, am pretty much the buckle on the belt of the state.  Are you in New jersey Stuart?

Hi Sam:

Not any more. I grew up in Point Pleasant (Manasquan River Delta country), but I live out here in Washington State now. Back in the late sixties and early seventies I think that there were all of six people south of the Raritan River that had ever heard of Country Blues or Old Time Music--me being one of them. There are always surprises, though. I once got an invite to Tex Logan's birthday party (Tex lived in Madison and worked at Bell Labs, I believe). I won't even begin to name those in attendance--the  Who's Who of Bluegrass--so you can imagine.

Anyway, it's great to hear you and Frankie keeping hope alive in the Garden State. BTW, where's home for you people?
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: CF on March 26, 2008, 06:50:50 PM
Nice job . . . & thanks for the video, makes it so much easier for me to steal songs  >:D
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on March 27, 2008, 12:33:18 PM
I am actually north of the raritan river by about 300 yards (and 40 feet high for flood sakes) in a little section of bridgewater nestled between Manville and Somerville.

Hope is not dead in the Garden State!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on April 08, 2008, 04:17:05 AM
Before:  Worry, worry, worry.
After:  Ain't worried no more.

If you can spare five minutes, I can pretty much guarantee you'll come out the other side smiling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_3pLpDeng
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on April 08, 2008, 06:53:57 AM
I can back up that guarantee.

 :)
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Post by: Slack on April 08, 2008, 07:08:31 AM
Terrific!  Great energy!  So authentic sounding, it's scary!  Made me smile! ;D
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on April 08, 2008, 07:22:02 AM
Lots o' fun, guys.  :D Where's the kazoo? Also, Kim needs one of these to fit in with all that metal:


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Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on April 08, 2008, 10:17:35 AM
Lots o' fun, guys.  :D Where's the kazoo?

I'm sure someone's playing one somewhere.  Maybe Kim could play kazoo in a rack with the fiddle!

Also, Kim needs one of these to fit in with all that metal:

Or one of these (http://www.musurgia.com/products.asp?ProductID=3371&CartID=651016482008).

Scratch, scratch, honk, honk, whiiiiiiiine!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on April 08, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
THREE MUSICIANS STRIKEN DEAD ON STREET IN PRINCETON.
Local community relieved at loss of "rambunctious annoyance."

Princeton (AP) -  A local community is breathing a sigh of relief after lightning struck a group of street performers Sunday afternoon.  "There wasn't even a storm," said local resident Wally Wiggins, "I think God just was in the mood to smite something and they were in the right place at the right time, at least for Princeton residents."  Eyewitnesses report that they felt that the addition of a metal fiddle was a little too "Meddling" and the group was "just asking for it."
      "I mean, this isn't Memphis, this is an academic community," said Princeton Metaphysics professor Hubert Weinstein, "we like our music coming out of AM alarm clock radios, not squaky metal instruments."   Professor Weinstein went on to explain that he was unable to leave smallish apartment on Sundays between 11 and 1 because the group of musicians was such an annoyance.  Other buskers, including the local high school jazz ensemble and the Princeton Tiger String Band mummer group will be resuming their busking schedule now that the band has been silenced.  The group will likely not go down in history for anything of any significance.
       There have been no funeral arrangements, but a moment of silence has been scheduled in the burnt out crater where the group used to play on Sundays.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Rivers on April 08, 2008, 07:02:21 PM
You're right, I ain't worried no more, thanks!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on April 10, 2008, 10:00:00 AM
A big two thumbs up on your most recent offering. Well done!!

THREE MUSICIANS STRIKEN DEAD ON STREET IN PRINCETON. Local community relieved at loss of "rambunctious annoyance."

Actually, many of the PU faculty probably find y'all a welcome relief from what usually goes down in P town. Friends of mine who teach there often lament the local community's lack of character and/or soul.

A couple of years ago I stumbled across a book that I eventually got around to reading. (It's quite good.) It may seem a bit out of place, but it gives you an insight into a dimension that one usually doesn't associate with the faculty of an ivy league school. (Sorry if I ruffled your feathers again, Bill.)

Here's the link:

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html


Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on April 10, 2008, 02:20:57 PM
the addition of a metal fiddle was a little too "Meddling" and the group was "just asking for it."

snort, snort!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on May 05, 2008, 06:19:35 PM
Kim and Frankie ask the musical question, "Baby, How Can It Be?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkITFTSAyXo
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on May 05, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
Terrific job, what a great song - tough to beat Bo Carter and lines like 'babe I'm doubtful in mind....."
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Post by: Stuart on May 05, 2008, 08:22:44 PM
Just great! Almost enough to make me want to move back to NJ--almost...
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Post by: Parlor Picker on May 06, 2008, 01:14:11 AM
And the hits keep on comin' ......
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Post by: uncle bud on May 06, 2008, 06:53:18 AM
More fun! I agree, great tune, nice choice! Nice demo of Sheiks-style accompaniment, too, although as usual I think Kim gets the hard part.

Plus, expressive eyebrow moves from Frankie!

Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on May 06, 2008, 01:52:51 PM
although as usual I think Kim gets the hard part.

I'm not complaining...

Thanks, guys!
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Post by: frankie on August 19, 2008, 07:56:04 PM
Voil? Viola Lee Blues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ5egQ2BwRI

And from samjessin's channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/samjessin7) - Sunset Waltz...  played at sunset, on the dock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyttUkpmsA8

thanks for watching!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on August 20, 2008, 01:11:17 AM
Thanks again Kim, Frankie and Sam.  It just keeps getting better!  Let me know if you decide to tour the UK.
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Post by: Pan on August 20, 2008, 05:07:45 AM
Great stuff again, guys! Congratulations!

I really liked Sunset Waltz, what a beautiful song.

Cheers

Pan
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: 67rene on August 20, 2008, 10:36:54 AM
Frank & Sam , I really love what you are doing and the videos are still getting better.
Please keep them coming !
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on August 20, 2008, 07:53:16 PM
PP - if you can organize a tour of English farmer's markets, we're in!

I have a soft spot for Sunset Waltz, myself - Pan, I don't know if you're heard the original recording, but I ended up re-harmonizing it more than a bit...  the chords I ended up with still aren't what you'd call "right," but are consistent with the way that Walter Vinson harmonized similar tunes.  It was an interesting way to use their own musical language on their own turf, so to speak.

Rene - thanks.  I love playing with Sam, but the heart of the whole thing for me is Kim's fiddle.  Without it, I don't think I'd even bother!  We'll have to seek out some better lighting situations - I'm getting all cross-eyed trying to watch some of these...  it seemed like a good idea at the time!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Pan on August 21, 2008, 02:27:08 AM

I have a soft spot for Sunset Waltz, myself - Pan, I don't know if you're heard the original recording, but I ended up re-harmonizing it more than a bit...  the chords I ended up with still aren't what you'd call "right," but are consistent with the way that Walter Vinson harmonized similar tunes.  It was an interesting way to use their own musical language on their own turf, so to speak.


I actually listened to snippet of the original on CD universe, and noticed that you had reworked the harmony. In my opinion you guys do a beatiful job with it, so again, mes compliments au chefs!  :)
I am tempted to do some stealing, though...  :P


FWIW, here is the sample I mentioned: http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1021698/a/Charlie+Mccoy+(1928-32).htm

Pan
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on August 27, 2008, 07:17:59 PM
Somehow I missed this one, since frankie didn't post it, but here's a too-cool version of Peg Leg Howell's Coal Man Blues. I love this, relentless, weird, deadpan, in the zone, plus toilet-seat fretboard. I'm jealous...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD3uuti9yg0
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on August 28, 2008, 01:09:46 AM
Coal Man Blues has been one of my favourites since I got the Rural Blues box set way back in the 1960s and Frankie does a superb version of it here.

The more I see of these videos, the more I think that Frankie has an enormous talent.  Like our own Roger Hubbard over here in the UK, not only has he got the technical side sorted out, he has that vital extra something you cannot learn - an inate feel for the music.  I rate him among the best I've ever seen.

It's about time Frankie and pals put out a DVD (having seen the videos, a CD/LP would not seem enough somehow).
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: samjessin on August 29, 2008, 12:43:29 PM
Did I hear wind of an LP?
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Post by: Parlor Picker on August 30, 2008, 02:23:27 AM
Did I hear wind of an LP?

Go on, Sam - give Frankie a sharp nudge with your mandolin (preferably the metal job).
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on December 06, 2008, 08:58:36 PM
Parlor Picker, thanks for the very kind compliment on my playing - even my mom doesn't have anything that nice to say about me!

Here's something Kim and I just had to get out of our collective system this weekend - maybe you'll enjoy it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVQ7lOb8N4o
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Rivers on December 07, 2008, 08:40:13 AM
That is neat on a lot of levels. It really works in B flat, almost forces you to keep it sparse and uncluttered. The change to the D chord in 1st position sounds like a million bucks, very satisfying voicing. The IV chord Eb, that's a great way to do it with the top string fretted like that. Love the moving bass line, that really sets off the guitar part.

Tell me, did you do it in that key because it works well with the violin? Or were you influenced by something? Sounds really Mississippi Sheiks-ish.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on December 07, 2008, 12:27:08 PM
Lonnie and Sam Chatmon recorded it in 1936.  They did in B-flat, so we're just copping it off the record.  In the notes to the Document CD (MS Sheiks, volume 4) refer to Sam's accompaniment as "accurate and rhythmically steady, rather than inspired."  Well, jeez - he's playing backup on an uptempo tune...  whaddaya expect?  I'm sure Lonnie would really have appreciated "rhythmically indistinct and harmonically indeterminate, yet visionary" accompaniment.

In both Kim's and my opinion, B-flat (and E-flat as well) is a great key - sounds great on fiddle and mandolin and has very convenient fingering...  helps that it's an excellent singing key as well.  Sits well on the guitar, too, though maybe more for backup...  the guitar is really an excellent backup instrument, though...  it's a shame that Walter Vinson's, Bo's and Sam's accompaniments are often spoken of so disparagingly - they're well worked out, use the guitar in interesting ways and fill the role perfectly.  What's not to like?  Not flashy enough?  Feh.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on December 07, 2008, 12:48:05 PM
Lonnie and Sam Chatmon recorded it in 1936.  They did in B-flat, so we're just copping it off the record.  In the notes to the Document CD (MS Sheiks, volume 4) refer to Sam's accompaniment as "accurate and rhythmically steady, rather than inspired."  Well, jeez - he's playing backup on an uptempo tune...  whaddaya expect?  I'm sure Lonnie would really have appreciated "rhythmically indistinct and harmonically indeterminate, yet visionary" accompaniment.

He-he.

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In both Kim's and my opinion, B-flat (and E-flat as well) is a great key - sounds great on fiddle and mandolin and has very convenient fingering...  helps that it's an excellent singing key as well.  Sits well on the guitar, too, though maybe more for backup...  the guitar is really an excellent backup instrument, though...  it's a shame that Walter Vinson's, Bo's and Sam's accompaniments are often spoken of so disparagingly - they're well worked out, use the guitar in interesting ways and fill the role perfectly.  What's not to like?  Not flashy enough?  Feh.

The little I've done fooling around with Sheiks (et al) backup on guitar in Bb and Eb, by playing along with the record, I've found it really does sit well on the guitar. It seems quite natural, you almost forget you're playing in Bb or Eb. Pretty ingenious really. What I haven't done is tried playing along with any mandolin parts for Charlie McCoy stuff in Bb. You say the fingering is convenient in these arrangements, and I presume you mean for the fiddle as well, which would mean the mandolin fingering would be convenient as well. But I can't say I can immediately picture the chord shapes/partials or fingerings he'd work from. (Still working on the key of G on the mandolin  :P.)

Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Rivers on December 07, 2008, 04:09:43 PM
Thanks for the background Frank. Ragtime forms in B flat, a whole new world for me to explore. The bass line really does make it.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on December 07, 2008, 07:39:02 PM
I realize it must seem like I'm carpet bombing you all with stuff in the last couple of days, but this is probably it for a while:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRXWEgDvTLc
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on December 08, 2008, 01:18:12 AM
Two more splendid performances.  Delicious!

I'm waiting for my compilation DVD now...

Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on December 08, 2008, 06:25:29 AM
Carpet bomb away frankie - great stuff!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on December 09, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I realize it must seem like I'm carpet bombing you all...

Beats the Hell out of being called on the carpet! Great stuff--keep it coming! We'll let you know when we reach the saturation point (Like that's ever going to happen!).
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on April 08, 2009, 03:29:39 PM
Kim and I did this a little while ago as our own hommage to Bob Guida (RIP).  It's the kind of song he liked.  I'd like to share it here if you don't mind checking it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdGHYDM_TpI

I only wish we could have shared it with him while he was here.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on April 09, 2009, 01:40:31 AM
Thanks for sharing that Kim & Frankie.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: blueshome on April 12, 2009, 02:29:56 AM
Wow! That really caught the spirit of the original.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on August 08, 2009, 06:16:36 PM
A heavy tune for heavy times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7juM_ngG9s
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on August 09, 2009, 09:00:13 AM
Oh good, you posted it here too - just terrific Frankie and Kim!  Flabergasting! :)
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on August 09, 2009, 10:33:26 AM
Frank and Kim: I've been listening to "Stop and Listen" for decades and this is the best cover and the most faithful to the original version I've ever heard. Simply fantastic.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Prof Scratchy on August 09, 2009, 01:07:34 PM
just wonderful stuff - close your eyes and the Sheiks are back!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Pan on August 09, 2009, 02:28:10 PM
That was absolutely wonderful! Thanks for sharing it with us!

Cheers

Pan
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on August 10, 2009, 01:20:42 AM
Yet another winner!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on August 11, 2009, 03:48:48 PM
thanks guys - it was nice to get a little piece of that one.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Pan on September 04, 2009, 03:24:36 PM
You can find great things nowadays on the internet:

http://www.guitarseminars.com/gs/viewtopic.php?t=4103

Cheers

Pan
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Slack on September 04, 2009, 06:25:02 PM
Pan, when become frankie's Facebook friend you get these ditties delivered directly. Here's another for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJrfx9dTkc
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on September 05, 2009, 07:59:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js4B3TwALZY&feature=sub

Whenever I watch these guys, I don't know whether they should be put under contract or have a contract out out on 'em--they are that good!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 13, 2010, 01:06:58 PM
time to dredge this one out of the depths...  thanks if you've been watching so far.  this was filmed at the Fabulous Jalopy Theatre last November:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwwju3Sanw
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Mr.OMuck on February 13, 2010, 01:52:57 PM
WOWZAH! Frankie & Kim and Sam nail another one! Sure do hope everyone makes an effort to get out to see 'um on Feb.28th at the Jalopy in Redhook Brooklyn first exit out of the Brooklyn- Battery tunnel, a clear shot from Jersey, Pennsyltucky, upstate NY, Montana, New Zealand, Katmandu and points west, east, north and south, along with his eminence Cardinal Pat Conte and the amazing Joe Belulovitch. Its important to let these venues see that the country Blues can bring in a crowd.
I intend to be there...not that thats an inducement or anything but I hope its not a deterrent either. ;)
Show your Weenie Campbell decoder ring and I might buy you a beer...or not (sorta depends on my finances that week).
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 14, 2010, 04:08:17 AM
wow - I had better practice my schtick! Now where's my hat?
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on February 14, 2010, 01:50:54 PM
WOWZAH! Frankie & Kim and Sam nail another one!

Couldn't have put it better myself.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: eagle rockin daddy on February 14, 2010, 02:24:56 PM
wow,

thanks for reviving this thread!

Sounds wonderful.

Mike
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2010, 03:10:53 PM
Extremely well done. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Frankie, Kim and Sam are three reasons why this music will continue to be popular entertainment in its own right as well as an ongoing living art form--and they play it for all of the right reasons.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 15, 2010, 09:20:30 AM
thanks guys - that's really too kind for the likes of us!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: blueshome on February 15, 2010, 02:07:27 PM
Wow! Don't stop.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: dj on February 15, 2010, 04:12:12 PM
Frankie,

I initially resisted just piling on and saying "me too", but after more than a few listens to this over the last few days, I feel compelled to say:

Really nice ensemble work.  Really nice guitar playing.  Absolutely great vocals.  And you know that rhythm thing I was talking about in the "What are you looking for in the country blues" thread?  You guys have it in spades.  A really wonderful performance. 
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Johnm on February 15, 2010, 10:42:05 PM
Yo Frank,
For the benefit of those who can't get youtube, what is the song being performed?
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 16, 2010, 04:15:03 AM
thanks, dj and phil - I'm speechless!

john - it's Elder Greene Blues.  The youtube link displays the title of the video, which is why I never bother in the post...  maybe that's a browser and OS specific behavior, though... 

youtube allows me to extract the mp4 file, and then I converted it to mp3 to bring the file size down.  It's still about 4MB, so it'll take a few minutes on dialup, but not the week and a half that a video will need:

Little Brothers - Elder Greene Blues (http://donegone.net/sounds/little-brothers-elder-greene-blues-charlie-patton.mp3)

I dunno if it'll be very interesting as an audio file...  might be, I guess.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Johnm on February 16, 2010, 08:13:58 AM
Thanks very much for posting the non-visual version, Frank.  That really does sound great--you've got some powerhouse time-keeping going on there, and the occasional places where Kim and Sam are doing high tremolos simultaneously are kind of hair-raising.  Very strong singing, too, just happening in every way!
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on February 16, 2010, 08:31:01 PM
thanks, john!  I'll be more conscientious about titles and such from here on out...
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on March 23, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
since schtick continues to be in the air, here's kim and her take on schtick.  you have been warned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvC4TU3ZGJ4

Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Mr.OMuck on March 23, 2010, 06:14:37 PM
The birth of the Burns & Allen of the Blues! Frank's looks of anticipatory horror are priceless!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: CF on March 24, 2010, 06:36:16 AM
Love the progression in that one, don't think I've heard it before. Great job.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on March 24, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
The tune is called "Kitty Puss" and it's from a fiddler named Buddy Thomas (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=BUDDY|THOMAS&sql=11:hpfexqu5ldhe~T1).  He's a great old-time fiddler...  one of Kim and my favorites, anyway.  He had a tough life, but everybody I know that knew him recalls him fondly.
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on May 03, 2010, 04:58:53 AM
another from jalopy, but only peripherally related to country blues - a cape verde fiddle tune called Cabo Verdranos Peca Nove:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wetm75ScZ0
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on May 20, 2010, 04:47:13 AM
like Carl Martin, but different.  kim owns this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7M2UOUru5M
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on August 05, 2010, 05:08:45 AM
from jalopy - the balance between my voice and the guitar was kinda off all night, I think, but we finish it up nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-CBmKks5rY
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Mr.OMuck on August 06, 2010, 09:25:04 AM
LHM! Fab! Gear! Crazy! Wow....and groovy too!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on August 06, 2010, 02:56:50 PM
oh, you kid!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on December 22, 2010, 06:21:07 PM
I promise the carpet bombing will cease after this, but I managed to talk her into it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJgDT35sg6c

up jumped a rabbit, babies!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: Parlor Picker on December 23, 2010, 03:40:53 AM
As mentioned on Facebook, a Christmas treat for us all! Excellent!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: blueshome on December 23, 2010, 05:38:19 AM
They just keep on doing it!  :D
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on December 23, 2010, 12:45:11 PM
thank you very much, everyone, and happy holidays.  This is the kind of tune I just wanted to get a piece of...  what a wonderful sound!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on January 22, 2011, 10:01:46 PM
Re-imagining Memphis Minnie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHz7RhDm2OQ
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on April 23, 2011, 06:04:34 AM
50 uploads?!?  can't believe it, myself... 

Kim's take on Wayward Girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-1TEsidzY

the girl I love, indeed!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: blueshome on April 23, 2011, 06:50:42 AM
Wow! (again)
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on July 16, 2011, 12:04:13 PM
Red River Blues - Vocal blues with guitar accompaniment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTP1sO_RjRw
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on July 16, 2011, 12:31:41 PM
Such a great nutty song, I love those demented bass lines, too fun. Sounds great, guys and gals.
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Post by: dj on July 16, 2011, 01:00:25 PM
That performance has everything that has always drawn me to early blues.  Put that out in 1927 and you'd have a serious hit on your hands!
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Post by: Slack on July 16, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
Too cool! 
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: uncle bud on July 16, 2011, 01:16:45 PM
Is it me, or could one imagine Little Hat Jones sitting in on this?

Anyway, just get's better with repeated listening.
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Post by: harvey on July 17, 2011, 12:15:06 AM
Really enjoyed that thanks for posting
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Post by: jaycee on July 17, 2011, 04:16:15 AM
thanks for posting and enabling me to watch a terrific trio of video's.
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Post by: Pan on July 17, 2011, 07:19:53 AM
That's fantastic!  8)

I hope there is a concert review to follow? Hopefully with some video candy to sweeten things up for those of us not being able to see you guys live?

Cheers

Pan
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Post by: eagle rockin daddy on July 18, 2011, 12:31:01 PM
yas, yas, yas!

Mike

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Post by: dj on July 18, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Ummm... I hate to sound crass, but you're not selling mp3s of Red River anywhere, are you? That's really a song I'd like to be able to put on repeat in the car on the way home from work.  Even though with an mp3 I wouldn't be able to see John's smile at the end, which is a highlight of the performance!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on July 19, 2011, 03:02:09 PM
Thanks, everybody...  I'm sorry to say we didn't quite have time to record it proper... just a quick video and then John had to hit the road to catch his plane.  Only time for one take!
Title: Re: The Girl I Love...
Post by: frankie on November 01, 2011, 03:16:35 PM
and the sister tune to Red River Blues...  a little bit of the Honey Blues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF_XwUk2vIU
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