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Title: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: outfidel on July 14, 2005, 06:10:27 AM
BIG BILL BROONZY - The Complete Vogue Recordings
Vogue 664351-2
CD $39.98

Three CD set with 44 tracks featuring all the recordings Big Bill made in Paris in 1951 and 1952 for the Vogue Record Company including nine previously unissued alternate takes. It's mostly just Bill and his acoustic guitar though on seven tracks recorded live he is joined by his old friend Blind John Davis on piano. Although some of the material is in a "folky" vein Bill's singing and playing are superb throughout and, in fact, we get to hear more of his fabulous guitar technique than we had since his early recordings. Includes original LP artwork and booklet with notes in French and English.

source: Roots & Rhythm (http://www.rootsandrhythm.com/roots/New_Releases/latest_071305.htm#BIG%20BILL%20BROONZY)
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Yves on July 14, 2005, 10:39:24 PM
At that time Big Bill had a lovely young French girl friend called Jacqueline. She was as far as I remember round 20... he was a little bit older...
She's still living in the Loire valley - near Chambord - I had the opportunity and pleasure to have an afternoon to discuss with her about.... Big Bill. She show me her "collection" of Bill's 78' and photos that have been taken during these days.
She's also a good friend of Mickey Baker - still living in the South West of France near Toulouse - and was in close relationship of Memphis Slim when he was in Paris.
I remember Mickey tising him while MS was driving his white Roll Royce car instead of having a chauffeur !

Yves
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Rockdale on July 16, 2005, 08:42:12 PM
I just bought the Shanachie DVD with Big Bill Broonzy and Roosevelt Sykes on it a few days ago. It's great but I'm sure most of you have already seen it. The first song that Broonzy sings ( When Did You Leave Heaven) is just amazing. I've never heard of it before. Are there any other admirers of this particular song out there?
  If so, do any of you play it?

         Thanks,
          Rockdale
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: conqueroo on May 23, 2006, 04:07:20 PM
BIG BILL BROONZY BOX SET FEATURES AMSTERDAM LIVE CONCERTS FROM 1953

Live recordings from bluesman?s artistic prime to be made available in the U.S. on Munich Records September 19

AMSTERDAM, The Netherlands ? Two CDs capturing live performances by Big Bill Broonzy will be released in the U.S. as a box set by Munich Records on September 19. Featuring the long awaited recordings of two shows from February of 1953, Big Bill Broonzy: Amsterdam Live Concerts 1953 contains 25 songs and between-song storytelling, plus extensive liner notes about Broonzy?s legacy and his little-known second life as a European, and dozens of previously unseen photos.
 
After an afternoon performance in Holland in 1953, Broonzy was taken to a pub in old Amsterdam. When he was asked to sing a few more songs he refused, to the surprise of his Dutch friends. When they asked for the reason, he explained that he was afraid he?d be arrested for being black. After it had been explained to him that there was no reason to fear that in the Netherlands, Bill played for over an hour. Thus was Big Bill?s experience of Europe, but especially the Netherlands, where he was made to feel welcome and would live different life than he knew in the States. He met and fell in love with a Dutch girl, Pim van Isveldt. Together they had a child named Michael who still lives in Amsterdam.
 
Although these performances were recorded in the early ?50s, Louis van Gasteren, who was a sound engineer at the time and went on to become one of the Netherlands? most acclaimed filmmakers, ensured the integrity of the recordings. Locked away in van Gasteren?s safe for more than 50 years, they are finally surfacing now after a few failed attempts at releasing them between the ?50s and ?80s. The first concert took place on February 26 at the Ons Huis club in the Rozenstraat in Amsterdam and the second on February 28, in the middle of a sold-out European tour.
 
Also included in the box set are never before published photos from the private collections of Michael van Isveldt, The Maria Austria Institute and the Netherlands Jazz Archive. 
 
Broonzy was born in Scott County Mississippi in 1901. Learning guitar from his uncle Jerry Belcher, he played country dances and picnics. Bronzy served in the U.S. Army during World War I, and in 1924, following his discharge plus a short return to Arkansas, he moved to Chicago, where he joined such musical contemporaries as Memphis Minnie, Tampa Red, Jazz Gillum, Lonnie Johnson and John Lee ?Sonny Boy? Williamson. In 1938, Broonzy performed as part of John Hammond?s famous ?Spiritual & Swing? concert at Carnegie Hall ? his first show for a white audience. He recorded more than 260 blues songs as he traveled between Chicago and the South. With the arrival of electric artists like Muddy Waters, Broonzy?s brand of folk blues was pushed aside. He found adoration in Europe, where he first toured in 1951. The material from Amsterdam Live Concerts was recorded on tour in ?53. In 1957, Broonzy was diagnosed with throat cancer, and died in August 1958. His early ?50s work in Europe represents some of the best performances of his career.
 
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Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Bunker Hill on May 23, 2006, 11:52:45 PM
Here is some "insider" information from Guido van Rijn reported in December last year:

For the past three years I have been working on a Big Bill Broonzy project.
Work has now been completed and the results will be published on 1 February
2006.
It is a DVD size box containing two CDs and a 48-page booklet in DVD box
size. The CDs contain two unissued concerts Big Bill Broonzy gave in
Amsterdam on 26 and 28 February 1953. They were recorded by Louis van
Gasteren and are in superior sound quality.

The booklet contains three essays and 38 unique photographs, many of them
published for the first time. They show Big Bill and his relatives in
Arkansas, Big Bill and his Amsterdam girlfriend, Big Bill and his Amsterdam
son Michael, Big Bill at Dutch concerts and radio shows, Big Bill's coffin
carried to its grave, Big Bill lying in state with Brother John Sellers
officiating, etc. I traced many of the Dutch jazz friends that Bill
presented with photographs. The most spectecular of these photos is a
hitherto unknown one of Bill leaning on his 1939 Chevrolet in Chicago in
1941. Next to him is Tommy McClennan playing his guitar!
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: uncle bud on May 25, 2006, 08:31:52 AM
I'm quite looking forward to this. I've been listening to postwar Big Bill a fair amount lately and his playing is generally astonishing. A helluva thumb to start with. Great singing too. I know that on the Juke, we have Treat Me Right and Trouble in Mind from the postwar recordings, should anyone care to listen to them. Check out the instrumental of St. Louis Blues - smokin'.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Richard on May 25, 2006, 01:07:07 PM
I have an LP or two of some of his post-war stuff somewhere... I will be interested to see if any of this is the same.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Doc White on May 26, 2006, 11:34:00 PM
A couple of years back a German label Jasmine, released a concert of Big Bill with an Australian trad jazz band led by Graeme Bell. This was recorded in Hamburg in 1951 and is pretty good quality. He sounds as though he is having a good time. Graeme Bell mentions this concert and his memories of Big Bill in his autobiography.
Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Bunker Hill on May 27, 2006, 12:14:56 AM
A couple of years back a German label Jasmine, released a concert of Big Bill with an Australian trad jazz band led by Graeme Bell. This was recorded in Hamburg in 1951 and is pretty good quality. He sounds as though he is having a good time. Graeme Bell mentions this concert and his memories of Big Bill in his autobiography.
Yeah I have this on a 1980s Italian LP and there's certainly an empathy between BBB and the band, which wasn't always the case with such collaborations. :) The sound quality of the Jasmine CD (2002) is head and shoulders above that of the Italian effort. On a point of information Jasmine are a long establish south east London jazz label and the concert was held in Dusseldorf rather than Hamburg. (Yikes, there's that pedant again...s-o-r-r-y)
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Doc White on May 28, 2006, 12:24:58 AM
Hi Bunker Hill,
I stand corrected. Dusseldorf it was. No problem with pedantry, it keeps us all honest.
Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Richard on May 30, 2006, 10:38:33 AM
I have a few 78s of Graeme Bell  but I think sadly without BBB.. I will check though as that would be nice  :)

Maybe there is some advantage to being a keen jazzer after all  ;D
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: norman on June 04, 2006, 11:00:30 AM
Hi there. Just have a question for you guys

Yesterday I ordered The Bill Broonzy Story (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/002-1687695-8812868?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dblended&keywords=big+bill+story) and I am wondering if it is from the same recording session during which the Big Bill Broonzy sings folk songs  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000001DH5/sr=8-2/qid=1149443850/ref=sr_1_2/002-1687695-8812868?%5Fencoding=UTF8) album was recorded.

I soooo love his very of Glory of Love on that last record and am hoping the 3 cd set is simply an extended version of the session. I just can't seem to find the information.

Thanx for your time.

Vince
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Stuart on June 04, 2006, 01:44:52 PM
Hi Vince:

I don't know if they are from the same recording session. The Big Bill Broonzy Story was originally a 5 LP set (released by Verve?), while Big Bill Sings Folk Songs was released by Folkways. There is another LP that was recorded during roughly the same time period, "Big Bill Broonzy Interviewed by Studs Terkel" (Folkways F-3586). I have the original LP as well as a CDR that was a "custom CD" ordered from Smithsonian-Folkways. As I understand it, the agreement was that SF was to keep the entire Folkways catalog in print (which meant as special order custom CDs or cassette tapes as well as the commercially released CDs).  However, I just checked the SF site and F-3586 is not listed. I don't know why. (Does anybody know about this?) If you get a chance, you should give it a listen. Although there is overlap with The Big Bill Broonzy Story, from what I understand, Studs and Big Bill were friends and you can hear a certain chemistry in the interview.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Bunker Hill on June 04, 2006, 02:02:44 PM
The Bill Broonzy Story 5 LP boxset was recorded 12-13 July 1957 for Verve (SET 3000) with one entire record devoted to an interview with Bill Randle. They were subsequently released as single LPs. Big Bill Broonzy Sings Folk Songs was a Folkways recording (LP 2328) made in October 1957. Without listening, and relying solely on memory, his renditions of the Billy Hills 40s standard are much the same on both.
BH
PS LP 3586 was recorded 14 November 1956.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: dave stott on July 25, 2006, 04:35:30 AM
amazon.com has the new release with a price of $50 with no track listing.

Before I lay out that kind of money, I am wondering if anyone has listened to it and can tell me how good the sound is...

I'd also appreciate seeing a track listing of the songs on this 2 CD release?
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Yves on July 26, 2006, 05:46:22 AM
Check at http://www.djangomusic.com
very reliable website

All the best

YVes
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: dave stott on July 26, 2006, 09:13:38 AM
thanks but I had no luck on that site finding the new release or a track listing..

The search continues...

Dave
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: dj on July 26, 2006, 10:27:46 AM
You can find the track listing on the Munich Records website here: http://www.munichrecords.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=309&osCsid=5f91c537185efa9b3fdc2d646aa37ff0 (http://www.munichrecords.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=309&osCsid=5f91c537185efa9b3fdc2d646aa37ff0)
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: outfidel on October 05, 2006, 07:33:28 AM
Just got this notice from Venerable Music:

Big Bill Broonzy: Amsterdam Live Concerts 1953 (http://www.venerablemusic.com/catalog/TitleDetails.asp?TitleID=11688)

This one looks good...
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: dave stott on October 17, 2007, 04:21:32 PM
sorry for dragging up an oldie, but I just picked up this 3CD compilation and I am loving each tune...

Most were recorded in Paris in either September 1951 or Feb/Mar 1952.. So you get a chance to hear Big Bill do a lot of the earlier tunes in a different style...

All of the tracks reportedly were copied direct from the Vogue masters..


CD3 contains a number of "alternate takes, which are interesting.

It's a Great Set !!!

Dave
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: jostber on October 18, 2007, 02:51:58 PM
Gotta check this out, Broonzy was a master!
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: jaycee on October 20, 2007, 01:53:44 AM
could i also recommend, big bills. 2 cd set, amsterdam unissued live concerts 1953. recorded by , louis van gasteren. it comes in "long box form" and within is a glossy 48 page insert, chock full of photographs. some of big bill pushing a pram. with his dutch son michael. who he had to, his dutch lover pim. and going back to the music the sound is absolutely superb. if you are a fan of big bill and you dont own this one,you really are missing out.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: dave stott on October 20, 2007, 06:10:52 AM
BIG BILL BROONZY - The Complete Vogue Recordings
Vogue 664351-2


This compilation has to racnk right up there with the Folkways, Trouble in Mind..

The compilation is 80% Big Bill solo..... so it really does give you an opportunity to compare his earlier solo versions to these.

This has been in constant play mode in my car and MP3 player for 2 weeks now....

Dave

Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: rjtwangs on February 12, 2008, 03:31:29 PM
I don't know if I missed something, but there is no mention of the JSP box sets, I have the first 2 volumes and I love them, any thoughts about these??

  RJ
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: dave stott on February 13, 2008, 04:25:00 AM
My personal preference is for the JSP re-issues over the Document sets..

At least to my ears, the JSP issues sound clearer with less noise....

But then again, can Big Bill Broonzy ever sound bad?

Dave

Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Rivers on February 13, 2008, 08:50:22 PM
Yes! I have a bunch of cheap exploitation label BBB CDs that have very few redeeming moments sound-wise, and the playing is often way below Bill's high standard. However I can generally find something interesting in there.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: JohnLeePimp on May 17, 2012, 03:19:49 PM
Here is some "insider" information from Guido van Rijn reported in December last year:

For the past three years I have been working on a Big Bill Broonzy project.
Work has now been completed and the results will be published on 1 February
2006.
It is a DVD size box containing two CDs and a 48-page booklet in DVD box
size. The CDs contain two unissued concerts Big Bill Broonzy gave in
Amsterdam on 26 and 28 February 1953. They were recorded by Louis van
Gasteren and are in superior sound quality.

The booklet contains three essays and 38 unique photographs, many of them
published for the first time. They show Big Bill and his relatives in
Arkansas, Big Bill and his Amsterdam girlfriend, Big Bill and his Amsterdam
son Michael, Big Bill at Dutch concerts and radio shows, Big Bill's coffin
carried to its grave, Big Bill lying in state with Brother John Sellers
officiating, etc. I traced many of the Dutch jazz friends that Bill
presented with photographs. The most spectecular of these photos is a
hitherto unknown one of Bill leaning on his 1939 Chevrolet in Chicago in
1941. Next to him is Tommy McClennan playing his guitar!

...was this ever released?
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: jharris on May 17, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Amsterdam-Live-Concerts-1953-Broonzy/dp/B000FVRRAA (http://www.amazon.com/Amsterdam-Live-Concerts-1953-Broonzy/dp/B000FVRRAA)

A terrific collection with great sound and superb photos.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: JohnLeePimp on May 17, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Amsterdam-Live-Concerts-1953-Broonzy/dp/B000FVRRAA (http://www.amazon.com/Amsterdam-Live-Concerts-1953-Broonzy/dp/B000FVRRAA)

A terrific collection with great sound and superb photos.

thanks - ordered it
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Mike Shipman on June 17, 2012, 07:16:25 AM
Just used my Fathers Day Amazon token to get this!
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Bunker Hill on June 20, 2012, 10:30:07 AM
Discussed earlier in the topic, this is "on sale" at Roots & Rhythm. Worth the $16 for the booklet alone.

BIG BILL BROONZY Amsterdam Live Concerts 1953
Munich MRCD 275 Usual Price = $37.98/ Sale Price = $15.98
Two CD set in book format featuring Big Bill recorded live at two concerts held in Amsterdam in February, 1953. The recordings were made by sound engineer and later film director Louis Van Gasteren and the quality is very good for a live recordings. Bill is in fine form, chatting with audience and playing some of his most well known pieces including "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad/ House Rent Stomp/ Black, Brown & White/ Down By the Riverside/ Glory Of Love/ back-Water Blues/Trouble In Mind", etc. Includes 48 page booklet with notes by blues scholar Guido Van Rijn and touching reminiscences by van Gasteren and is copiously illustrated with rare photos including many previously unpublished photos taken in The Netherlands.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Mike Shipman on June 21, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
This has all prompted me to record the complete recordings of BBB (on Document) from CD onto my Ipod... all eleven of them. I recall I got these - along with some others - in a bartering deal with a certain Mr BH in the early 90's - he preferred the sound of vinyl - probably still does!
My wife refers to the Document CDs as my "fried egg music" (all the crackles in the background - or should that be foreground!) so Im really looking forward to some clearer tracks on this latest offering.
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Bunker Hill on June 22, 2012, 01:56:45 AM
This has all prompted me to record the complete recordings of BBB (on Document) from CD onto my Ipod... all eleven of them. I recall I got these - along with some others - in a bartering deal with a certain Mr BH in the early 90's - he preferred the sound of vinyl - probably still does!
Yes indeed Mike I have all the1980s Document LPs. Johnny Parth used to pay his booklet scribes in CDs. Essentially I requested  as payment CDs of artists who weren't well represented in my vinyl collection. In general, the female vaudevillians (who were poorly served on vinyl) and those whom others found 'boring' - Peetie Wheatstraw, Josh White etc etc.   ;)
Title: Re: Bill Broonzy Re-Issue Sets
Post by: Parlor Picker on June 22, 2012, 02:59:07 AM
My wife refers to the Document CDs as my "fried egg music" (all the crackles in the background - or should that be foreground!)
I've always thought those old 78s were recorded in a fish & chip shop.
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