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Title: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Slack on February 24, 2014, 07:03:09 AM
Dear Weenies, Friends and other Dignitaries,

I regret to inform you that Weenie Juke Radio will be closing down at the end of this month.  Weenie Juke has been 'on the wire' (mostly) for almost 10 years.   Our current licensing entity, Loud City announced earlier this month that they were shutting down by the end of the month.  While Loud City has also announced that they are trying to negotiate for someone to continue the operation, I've decided to take this opportunity, regardless of the negotiated outcome, to close the Juke. 

Many factors weigh in this decision.  The various licensing entities and the creation of the DCMA make it difficult for hobbyist radio operators to follow the many, rules.  These rules are really aimed at the large operators and in large part take the fun out of it for the small operator.   

While we have some intense interest in Weenie Juke from a few of our die hard fans, in general, there is not much listening traffic on Weenie Juke.  I think this is due to a large number of sources where old country blues can either be obtained or listened to.  I'm continually amazed at the number of country blues tunes on youtube for example.  Pandora, Spotify and other custom stations now carry country blues. 

We do plan on "moth balling" the Juke in the event that circumstances change (as we did previously for about a year, while waiting for the licensing situation to shake out) and the Juke will be passed on to whomever or whatever (if anyone) may want to continue the site when the Steering Committee has grown too old and grouchy. 

The Juke has been fun - many people have supported and contributed to the Juke in many ways, but I'd like to especially thank Rivers for his technical work on the great set of Juke web pages and of course Richard, who was the delightful and humorous voice of Weenie Juke.  Sad as it may be, let's all raise our glasses and bid a fond farewell!

Thank you all for your understanding!

Slack and the Steering Committee.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Prof Scratchy on February 24, 2014, 07:11:43 AM
Weenie Juke has been a great resource and it will be sad to see it go. That said, if the regulators make it impossible to be fun for those that run it, I can thoroughly understand the decision to pull it. Thanks for making it available for the number of years it's been online.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Norfolk Slim on February 24, 2014, 08:24:53 AM
Very sad- I echo Scratchy's sentiments.

How about a montage of Richard's best  / most absurd announcments? ;)
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: CF on February 24, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
Too bad, sorry to see it go. The Juke was a great resource to hear songs that I did not have a copy of several years ago. But yes, there is so much country blues content online now.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Gumbo on February 24, 2014, 01:10:34 PM
Damn - four days to listen to everything I don't know ....  :(
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: David Kaatz on February 24, 2014, 02:13:10 PM
Thanks so much for the work on it. I didn't listen often, but it was great when I did!

Dave
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: eric on February 24, 2014, 02:44:36 PM
Thanks to the Weenie Brain Trust for keeping this forum going.  It's a wonderful resource.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Westside on February 24, 2014, 03:02:06 PM
The Juke will be greatly missed.  :(
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Pan on February 24, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
What a drag!  I've lately been in a sort of artist search mode on YouTube and the likes, but I was hoping to be able to return to the Juke after a while.  :'(

Thank you guys for all the great work you've done with the Juke. I think it, along with this forum, has been the most valuable tool in my remote country blues education!

Pan
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: NotRevGDavis on February 24, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
Bummer- I had to voluntarily give up the daily Juke a while back so it wouldn't be completely banned due to bandwidth issues- I could listen during the off hours.

I'm gonna miss all the Country Blues knowledge I gleaned from the Weenie Juke, I guess I'll have to search for another source.

AND..... thanks to everybody who contributed to the great selection of music that was featured.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Mr.OMuck on February 24, 2014, 08:34:39 PM
Wow that's terrible, understandable, but terrible. I was actually listening to it more recently. While there is a lot of stuff on youtube it can't be used as a real radio type stream. And where else can one find the depth of programing knowledge that we have here? Maybe we can find some university that wants to take it on. Lets poke around for options.
Perhaps we could just rename all the songs and use made up names for the artists?  :'(
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: uncle bud on February 24, 2014, 09:13:25 PM
I'm sad to see the Juke go, and bitter about the reasons it has to go. I suspect many stations that play small, independent artists will be disappearing. When not just a station but a whole licensing entity decides to throw in the towel thanks to pressure from entities like SoundExchange and the RIAA, then the corporate pablum peddlers are winning. This is what they wanted all along, and as Slack notes, they have made it difficult for any small operator to meet their demands.

I suppose some of the internet radio traffic will go to services like Spotify, which has a pretty poor royalties model from what I understand. Not sure what the answer really is, but part of it surely should have been to allow space for small operators without requiring the ridiculous hoops one must jump through just to exist.

The music business is truly a mess. But so is everything else these days, so no shock here.

edited to add: Another example of what's going on - http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/22084-net-neutrality-died-with-the-comcast-netflix-deal (http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/22084-net-neutrality-died-with-the-comcast-netflix-deal) - "If you're thinking of starting a net-based business in your garage, good luck. If you're not an oligarch, you won't have a chance."
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Zoharbareket on February 24, 2014, 11:01:59 PM
what a shame!

 :(
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Stuart on February 24, 2014, 11:26:45 PM
I'm sorry to see the Juke go, but it's understandable, given how difficult the modern mess has made things--things that should be easy and simple. Imagine that you couldn't let your friends listen to your record collection unless you filled out the required paperwork and coughed up dough for every spin of a platter. In essence, that's what it amounts to for the small outfits like WC.

Thanks to Slack, Rivers and the everyone else who made the Juke the quality source for all things Country Blues over the years. It will be missed.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Parlor Picker on February 25, 2014, 02:06:18 AM
I echo all that has been said and would just like to add my thanks to all concerned for their excellent work on the Juke.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: dj on February 25, 2014, 03:40:16 AM
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I echo all that has been said and would just like to add my thanks to all concerned for their excellent work on the Juke.

Agreed.  Thanks Slack, Rivers, Richard, et. al.

I'd just like to add that hearing artists I'd never really connected with come up randomly on the Juke gradually brought me around to appreciating them - Leadbelly, Blind Lemon, The Mississippi Sheiks among others.  And with appreciation came purchases, so the Juke was a sales tool, too.  I realize it's sales of artists the "industry" doesn't care about, and on a level small enough that the industry doesn't care about that, either.  But multiply me by the dozens of Juke listeners, and you've got...  something the industry doesn't care about.   :(

With the end of the Juke and the probable demise of Roots & Rhythm, I'm feeling a bit depressed right about now.

Slack, do you know the date and time we'll stop broadcasting?  I'd like to raise a parting glass at the appropriate moment.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Slack on February 25, 2014, 06:07:32 AM
Thank you all.

DJ, how about 9 eastern time?
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Norfolk Slim on February 25, 2014, 07:56:51 AM
A final announcement from Richard? 

" oh bugger. The doobry's fallen off the juke player. Well that's done it. Bloody computers.  Awful isn't it.  Well bye anyway. As the actress said to the bishop".

Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Suzy T on February 25, 2014, 09:42:52 AM
So sorry that it has to be this way, but understandable.  THANK YOU for all you've done to keep the Juke going -- and I'm going to hope that maybe it can come out of mothballs some day!
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: dj on February 25, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
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how about 9 eastern time?

9 pm eastern time on the 28th?  I'll be there with bourbon in hand.  (I hope you didn't mean 9am.  They won't let us drink at work.    :o  )

As for a final announcement from Richard, I favor "And up next on the steam-driven Victrola...   Damn!  Out of coal!"
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: blueshome on February 25, 2014, 01:40:43 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: philzy on February 28, 2014, 09:26:27 AM
Too bad.  Heard some great music the short time I was listening.
Thanks for the listening pleasure.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: SteveMcBill on February 28, 2014, 11:11:26 AM
Very sad indeed - the Juke was a great resource for all blues fans.  Having said that I do understand the reasons - many thanks for the chance to listen guys.

Here is hoping it can be resurrected at some point in the future !!

Steve
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: beljum on February 28, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
Hats off to the Weenie Juke Brain Trust for their commitment and outstanding job through the years!

Signed,
 A die hard listener
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Slack on February 28, 2014, 05:18:07 PM
Thank you all.

We'll go out with this fitting tribute - suggested by Uncle Bud.

I Will Do My Last Singing - Rev Gary Davis at Newport
Farewell Daddy Blues - Ma Rainey
Fare Thee Well - Joe Callicott
Bye Bye Blues - Tommy Johnson
I Shall Not Be Moved - Charley Patton
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: uncle bud on February 28, 2014, 06:08:50 PM
I've got the bourbon in front of me, dj...
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: dj on February 28, 2014, 06:22:44 PM
Well, that's it.  Thanks for the playlist, uncle bud.  Thanks for everything, Slack. 

And thanks for drinking with me, uncle bud.     
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Slack on February 28, 2014, 06:28:20 PM
I changed the order a bit UB, but it was a nice send off.  Thanks for the selections.  Perfect.

Cheers fellars... a glass of merlot here (after a couple of beers)... although I think I'll go pour a little drambuie... damn, it is such great music.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Pan on February 28, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
Gentlemen, I bow my head!


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Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: FrontPage on February 28, 2014, 10:04:04 PM
A toast to the end of an era - four fingers of Jameson's 12. Thanks fellas.


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Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Mr.OMuck on March 01, 2014, 07:09:37 AM
We here at O'Muck Enterprises INC. Regret the passing of our dearly beloved Juke. Good luck on your journey through the solar system and beyond Juke content! And much gratitude to all those who worked to make it work. :'(
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: uncle bud on March 01, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
A toast to the end of an era - four fingers of Jameson's 12. Thanks fellas.

Surely not your own fingers. That'd be half the bottle.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: garyweeks on March 01, 2014, 06:09:54 PM
Bummer.  It has been great.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Zoharbareket on March 01, 2014, 09:42:48 PM
Thank you for the education!

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Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Mike Brosnan on March 02, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
Ditto what everyone else has said already. Big thanks to everyone involved. The world is a better place due to all your efforts!
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: kodiak on March 04, 2014, 05:07:16 AM
It was great. Sorry to see it go.Any suggestions of sites to take it's place? Thanks
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: Rivers on March 05, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Apologies for not chipping in due to being immersed in a new project. Thanks for all the nice comments. It was great fun to be involved in the recent upgrades. I was highly sceptical of the juke concept at the beginning. Luckily Slack and co overruled my objections.

On a brighter note, the key word here is 'mothballed'. If conditions change in the future such that we can consider cranking up the juke again, in whatever form, we will certainly start discussing.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: kodiak on March 06, 2014, 03:57:23 AM
Thanks Rivers and Company for the great radio.
Title: Re: Weenie Juke Radio to Close at the End of February
Post by: ArthurBlake on April 17, 2014, 06:54:14 PM
Very sad to hear this, I used to listen to it when I could and it's a great loss as it was withoud a shred of doubt the greatest radio channel on planet earth, there was nothing even remotely as good. Here there is on 2 hour show a week and I cant even get reception for it, also it is way to blues/rock oriented and country blues classics may get played once every dozen or so weeks. Weenie Juke had no competition, it stood out like a young Elle McPherson wearing a bikini in a sea of shaggy bearded coalminers in the outback.