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Country Blues => Weenie Campbell Main Forum => Topic started by: unezrider on July 26, 2012, 08:35:38 AM
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hello friend,
stumbled across this good news the other day! it's not up on the blues images website yet, but it is available for pre order on amazon. as always, theres a few tracks on there i'm anxious to hear. (not to mention the unreleased photos!)
http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Blues-Artwork-1920s-Calendar/dp/B008I9ILPQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1343316773&sr=1-2&keywords=blues+images+calendar (http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Blues-Artwork-1920s-Calendar/dp/B008I9ILPQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1343316773&sr=1-2&keywords=blues+images+calendar)
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The Spruell/Washboard Sam titles are Sam's first recordings in April of 1935 [B&GR (1997)] & are not to be found on the Complete Documents so they're pretty rare but I have no idea if they've ever been reissued on LP or CD. Also, one of the Patton 'Some of these Days' is listed as 'unreleased'. How many versions does that make at this point?
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Here's hoping the Blind Willie Davis cuts are from a better copy than I know of. That will be nice to hear.
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Here's hoping the Blind Willie Davis cuts are from a better copy than I know of. That will be nice to hear.
It wouldn't surprise me if these are from a much better copy. This record sold on Ebay not long ago in something like E condition. My guess is Tefteller got it.
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Also, one of the Patton 'Some of these Days' is listed as 'unreleased'. How many versions does that make at this point?
Take 1 has been out on CD before. The "unissued" refers to the fact that it was not issued by Paramount back when it was recorded.
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The Spruell/Washboard Sam titles are Sam's first recordings in April of 1935 [B&GR (1997)] & are not to be found on the Complete Documents so they're pretty rare but I have no idea if they've ever been reissued on LP or CD. Also, one of the Patton 'Some of these Days' is listed as 'unreleased'. How many versions does that make at this point?
With Document you kind of take for granted that just about everything's been reissued but you're right, these don't appear on any of my Document discs. According to Stefan's Spruell discography they don't appear to be reissued anywhere. Most of the really rare records come from the depths of the great depression but this one's from 1935 and on Bluebird so you wouldn't think it would be that scarce.
I was really hoping this would be the year Tefteller found the Willie Brown record...
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I was really hoping that we had another wonderful Spruell vocal to enjoy . . . a little bit of a cheat how that song is labeled as Washboard Sam is the vocalist & Spruell & Carl Martin accompany on guitar.
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http://bluesimages.com/html/product_html/Yazoo-Special.html (http://bluesimages.com/html/product_html/Yazoo-Special.html)
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FWIW, on the Real Blues Forum, it is said that "Peach Orchard Mama" by Blind Lemon Jefferson, is an unissued (?) second take. I haven't purchased the calendar as yet, so I don't know what to think. Have any of you?
Cheers
Pan
Edited to Cheapfeet's correction; two takes are indeed mentioned by B&GR.
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Hey that's great news, PEACH ORCHARD MAMA is listed twice in B&GR, one recording in c. March 1929 (Pm 12801) & another c. August (also listed as Pm 12801 but each has their own matrix #s). My JSP box lists the c. March recording on the back of Disc D but says in brackets '(Untraced Master)' so that must be what we're dealing with . . . freakin' A, more 'new' Blind Lemon!! O0
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Hey that's great news, PEACH ORCHARD MAMA is listed twice in B&GR, one recording in c. March 1929 (Pm 12801) & another c. August (also listed as Pm 12801 but each has their own matrix #s). My JSP box lists the c. March recording on the back of Disc D but says in brackets '(Untraced Master)' so that must be what we're dealing with . . . freakin' A, more 'new' Blind Lemon!! O0
Thanks Cheapfeet, right you are about B&GR, I should have double checked.
Cheers
Pan
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The only reason I even knew to look Pan was because I half-remembered that note on the JSP CD, otherwise I'd be assuming it was recorded the same time as the one we already have & wouldna found it.
I wonder if Tefteller knows about the alt take of 'Blind Lemon's Penitentiary Blues' fellow Weenie Blind Arthur hipped us to several years back?
He discerned it aurally from a Tradition CD release [apologies, I seem to bring this up often :)] so it's out there (don't know availability of the CD) but maybe John would like it for a future release?
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Mine just arrived in the afternoon mail. I'll try to listen to it later and report back.
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Mr. Tefteller is mentioning MORE finds to be added to the 2014 Blues Images calendar CD (including the two newly discovered Blake's of course) over at FB & says they are takes of an unissued Paramount 13000 . . .
Paramount 13000s
http://www.danielwhartwig.com/records/disc/paramount13000.html (http://www.danielwhartwig.com/records/disc/paramount13000.html)
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On this year's calendar, not in the main images but in the small ones on the actual calendar pages, there were two pictures new to me -- one, the young Furry Lewis wearing a bow tie (not the same pic as on the front of the Document CD) and finally a decent version of the Henry Thomas pic from the Vocalion ads -- you can actually see what he looked like. Hope these get reproduced bigger somewhere (assuming they're of the quality to be blown up).
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Great spotting Chris. Here they are blown up a tad. I surmise that since the original half-tone dots are pretty big they must have been reproduced very small originally:
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Thanks for scanning and blowing those up, Rivers!
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Hey ya, those are great, & you CAN see more of the actual person(ality) of Henry Thomas here. I'm sure the pristine original photo will turn up in an attic soon :)
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Looking at it again I believe I see a set of quills hanging down on Henry Thomas's chest. Or it could just as likely be the bib of an overall he's wearing. I'd say quills though due to the dark shadow below the ends of the pipes, and that he seems to have a jacket on, which you wouldn't generally wear under bib overalls.
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I think they are the quills -- I seem to recall one ad where it used a line drawing of the photo and it was more obviously the quills in that.
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It's cool to see a pic of Lil McClintock, as well as a new one of Memphis Minnie. I'm very happy to hear the Blind Willie Davis tracks from a much better record. And more Lemon.
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Hey that's great news, PEACH ORCHARD MAMA is listed twice in B&GR, one recording in c. March 1929 (Pm 12801) & another c. August (also listed as Pm 12801 but each has their own matrix #s). My JSP box lists the c. March recording on the back of Disc D but says in brackets '(Untraced Master)' so that must be what we're dealing with . . . freakin' A, more 'new' Blind Lemon!! O0
Has anyone listened to this? Is it a different version? If so, how different? Also, how's the sound quality?
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It is a different take. Not radically different, though the vocal is different in many places. The lyrics have slight variations. Haven't gone through the guitar part. The sound is better than the other take, though surface noise throughout.
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Thanks. Good news, but not great. Perhaps one of these days really new BLJ tracks(s) will surface. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Hi all,
What's with the cuts that are attributed to Freddie Spruell and Washboard Sam? That is certainly not Freddie Spruell singing, sounds like Sam and it's Bill Broonzy playing guitar, by the sound of it. So what exactly is Freddie Spruell doing on these cuts, "Ocean Blues" and "Y.M.V. Blues"?
All best,
Johnm
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Yep, it's Washboard Sam -- these are his first recordings. And from memory (my references aren't handy) the Good Book (DGR) cites Carl Martin and Freddie Spruell, guitars. The main guitar does sound like CM, so I'm guessing that Spruell provided the fairly basic bass runs. So it beats me why these should be presented as Spruell tracks; they ain't.
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It's not just the Washboard Sam songs that are misleadingly labeled. The "never-before-seen" photo of Memphis Minnie appeared as plate 7 in Paul and Beth Garon's Memphis Minnie biography, and Blind Blake continued recording after accompanying Laura Rucker on "Fancy Tricks", which Tefteller describes as his "very last recording". Tefteller's fact checker must have been on vacation the week the calendar copy went to the printer. :)
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The Spruell labeling of a Washboard Sam vocal is bewildering, I agree. Was this how the record was originally advertised? I would think that Sam would have a bit more weight as a selling point but I guess they're both obscure enough not to matter much to the world at large. We have so many Sam recordings it's really too bad this wasn't a Spruell vocal, I was excited by the prospect before we learned what the record contained. This is a very rare record though & I believe it has never been released on CD before so I'm glad to have it.
I could have done without another copy of Johnson's 'Cold Was the Ground' & Blake's 'Diddy-Wah-Diddy' as well despite them being excellent records. I guess John doesn't have to convince 'us' so much to buy his excellent product so adding some obvious heavy hitters might be for the benefit of the more casual fan or buyer. Anyway, this is, as always, an amazing package & I'm very happy they're continuing to be produced. This is one of the only sources for 'new' stuff . . . can't wait for the last two Blakes in 2014!!
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dj, thanks for pointing out the Minnie photo - I thought there was something about it, but figured I was confusing it with something else. FWIW, I've found there have been small errors and dubious details in the calendar before. Shouldn't stop anyone from buying it, of course, since it's the artwork and music that is important. I continue to be pleased by the much better copy of the Blind Willie Davis with this calendar.
Interesting that main guitar on the Washboard Sam/Freddie Spruell tracks. Does sound much like Broonzy at the start, using a stock riff of his, but then those insistent bends throughout sound very Carl Martin-like. Wonder who it actually is. Freddie Spruell is certainly an inconsequential element - unless the walking bass lines that overwhelm the recordings make it his record.
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That's a pretty gorgeous copy of Clifford Gibson's Ice and Snow Blues, too. The Document version was pretty good, but this one is great.
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The "never-before-seen" photo of Memphis Minnie appeared as plate 7 in Paul and Beth Garon's Memphis Minnie biography
Prior to that on the front cover of the 1982 Original LP Memphis Minnie 1944-49 (OJL-24), albeit probably taken from a Chicago Defender type publication. This was remarked upon when the LP was originally reviewed - back sleeve reads "photo courtesy Harvey Newland".
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From John Tefteller over at the Real Blues Forum:
You WILL hear the last of the missing Blake's on the 2014 Calendar CD along with some other SUPRISES, that I am not ready to announce yet--but this COULD VERY WELL BE our BEST CD ever!!!
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Another exciting update & request from Mr. Tefteller from THE REAL BLUES FORUM on Facebook:
John Tefteller
Doing the final selection of tracks for the 2014 Classic Blues Artwork From The 1920's Calendar and CD series. I need THE MISSISSIPPI SHEIKS Okeh 8810 "Crackin' Them Things"/"Back To Mississippi" in E or better shape...does ANYONE out there have a clean copy of this?? Need to borrow it for a couple weeks for remastering by Richard Nevins...you will get it back and you will get a stack of FREE CALENDARS for you and close friends and relatives! Call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx if you know where one could be had....thanks and JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE HOW GREAT THE 2014 CALENDAR WILL BE!!! New, never before seen photos of legendary Blues artists, stunning original graphic advertisements and a CD with stunning quality and selection including some LONG LOST records that surfaced within the last year.
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Another good reason to stay alive one more year.....