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Offline Mr.OMuck

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Anti-War Blues
« on: March 31, 2008, 05:51:45 PM »
This War is Awful- Arthur Crudup
Overseas Blues- Memphis Willie B.
Red Cross Store- Leadbelly
This War will Last you for Years -Son House
(not exactly anti war.."won't be enough Japs to shoot a little game of craps", is about the most racist line in Blues)
Any others?...
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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 06:06:15 PM »
Nothing springs to mind at the moment.  I'll have to do some digging.  All I know is we need some more NOW whether we have to write our own or not!

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 06:23:31 PM »
Geeshie Wiley's Last Kind Words I've always thought of as an anti-war song of the subtle variety.

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 07:28:49 PM »
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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2008, 02:03:39 AM »
the two ones that imidiatly come to mind, if they can be considered anti-war are Blind lemon's "War Time Blues" and Blind Willie Johnsons "When the War was One".

Also i've always thought that a number of Darby and Tarltons recordings had a somewhat anti-war tone to them, such as "Rainbow Division" which it hink is a rework of "Dixie Division" and with the melody of "Red River Valley", except in relation to the first world war rather than the civil war.

I also heard quite an interesting two part Lomax recording from 1939 which sounded quite anti-war, though doubtlessly about the Civil war.



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Offline Bunker Hill

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 09:58:06 AM »
the two ones that imidiatly come to mind, if they can be considered anti-war are Blind lemon's "War Time Blues" and Blind Willie Johnsons "When the War was One".
I suppose I could trawl through Guido van Rijn's 1997 book Roosevelt Blues and plunder the appropriate chapters for examples but that would take the fun out of it for you guys.... :)

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 10:21:24 AM »
the two ones that imidiatly come to mind, if they can be considered anti-war are Blind lemon's "War Time Blues" and Blind Willie Johnsons "When the War was One".
I suppose I could trawl through Guido van Rijn's 1997 book Roosevelt Blues and plunder the appropriate chapters for examples but that would take the fun out of it for you guys.... :)

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 10:49:42 AM »
Hi all,
I don't know if it is anti-war as much as it is anti-military, but I have Snooks Eaglin singing "Questionaire Blues", which came from Amos Milburn originally, I think.  Mance Lipscomb's "Rocks and Gravel" likewise has some verses that are anti-military.  Junior Wells had "Vietnam Blues", and I believe J. B. Lenoir had a song or songs pertaining to the Vietnam War, though I can't remember the titles.  Does anybody know or remember the Lenoir titles?
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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2008, 11:30:15 AM »
J. B. Lenoir's was named "Vietnam", he also had "Korea Blues" - which may be a lot like "Questionnaire Blues" - here is a link to lyrics for both:

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/2541/bljlenoi.htm

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2008, 11:48:10 AM »
Kid Coley, "War Dream Blues".  Recorded in 1931, but it sounds as if it must have dated from 1917/1918.

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2008, 12:02:22 PM »
Didn't Suzy Thompson mention that 'Bama Long Blues by the Baxters was about not wanting to be in the Alabama Long Rifle Regiment? I guess that would be referring to the Civil War, or maybe the Spanish American War.

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2008, 12:48:45 PM »
Blues, maybe, anti-war, probably.

Vernon Dalhart - Ain't Gonna Grieve My Mind No More

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2008, 12:50:35 PM »
At least in the pre-war era there doesn't appear to be that many songs that can be called anti-war. One that comes to mind is Josh White's "Uncle Sam Says" which is really more about racism. Lonnie Johnson's
"From 20 to 44" is not exactly anti-war but has a resigned, world weary sentiment - "There's no peace on earth/And there's hell everywhere you go."

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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2008, 12:46:04 AM »
there's a whole 1996 CD album by the title of "Uncle Sam Blues" (don't know if they're all 'anti'-war ;-) on the Blues Encore label (Blues Encore CD 52043). More info on my J.B. Lenoir discography - it's # 67
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Re: Anti-War Blues
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 06:22:14 AM »
Not so much anti-war as anti-army Leadbelly's 'Army Life' has the refrain

'I don't want no more army life
Keep it I want to go home . . . '

& Testament recorded a couple guys who wrote songs that at least seem to speak of their call to service with fear & regret. Arthur Weston (with Big Joe Williams on guitar) recorded 'Uncle Sam Called Me (I Got To Go) with an almost chilling last verse

'Lordy how you runnin' & dodging trying to find some place to hide (x2)
But whenever you get in touch with those Japanese I swear them United States men sure got to die'

& Avery Brady's 'Uncle Sam's Own Ship' details a soldier's suffering during service, missing his old lady.
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