If you want to master somebody, you know, lock in on the one that has the most CDs. Because that'll give you the most material. And bury yourself in it. But don't expect to play with anybody who wants to hear you play Blind Blake, 500 tunes. I don't even wanna listen to a whole Blind Blake tape half the time... - Jerry Ricks, Port Townsend 97
Hi all, Sleepy John Estes recorded "Drop Down Mama" in 1935, with Hammie Nixon backing him on harmonica. They played wonderfully well together. Sleepy John plays the song out of C position, in standard tuning, his favorite key for singing and playing. "Drop Down Mama" is a "chorus" blues in a modified 12-bar format as follows (in the first verse, Sleepy John is short on the fourth bar):
| I | I | I | I | | IV--I--IV--I | IV--I--IV--I | I | I | | I | I | I--four beats + 2 beats|
The movement in the fifth and sixth bars is less complex than it looks on paper. Basically, Sleepy John is rocking back and forth between F and C; he employed that move on many of his songs. Sleepy John shared a preference for continuing to use the I chord where the V chord would normally fall in the form (bars nine and ten) with such musicians as Sam Collins and Dr. Ross. The harmonica fill that Hammie plays in the final measure of the form really sounds like it is leading to a V chord as a turn-around, but Sleepy John does not pick up on Hammie's cue (if, indeed, one was intended). The "chorus" blues format really suited Sleepy John because he could pack so much lyrical wealth into the first four bars of the form. His songs tend to be short in duration, but long in expressive content. And when you have someone who can sing as well as John Estes did, you just want him to keep on singing (at least I do).
Now, drop down, baby, let your daddy be I know just what you're tryin' to pull on me CHORUS: Well my mama, she don't allow me to fool 'round all night long Now I may look like I'm crazy, poor John do know right from wrong
Go 'way from my window quit scratchin' on my screen You's a dirty mistreater I know just what you mean CHORUS
Some of these women sure do make me tired Got a, a handful of "Gimme", a mouthful of "Much obliged" CHORUS
Woman I'm lovin', one teeth solid gold That's the onliest woman a mortgage on my soul CHORUS
See me comin' put your man outdoors You know I ain't no stranger, has done been here before CHORUS
Edited to pick up corrections from dingwall, 6/20/07
All best, Johnm
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Hi all, "Someday Baby Blues" was recorded by Sleepy John Estes and Hammie Nixon in 1935, as was "Drop Down Mama", and like it, was played out of C position in standard tuning. "Someday Baby Blues" is an unusual 16-bar "chorus" blues, and it's structure is discussed in the 16-bar blues thread on the Main Forum. Like "Drop Down Mama" it never goes to the V chord. Listening to the rendition, you get the distinct impression that for Sleepy John, the guitar's primary function was to accompany vocals. I am hard put to think of a country blues singer/guitarist of Sleepy John's generation who gave his guitar less solo space. The fact that he ends the song with a very nifty and complex run that he executes with perfect aplomb makes his choice to feature the guitar on his cuts so sparingly all the more mysterious. He could really play. Why did he choose not to? Perhaps the answer is in his great singing.
I don't care how long you're gone, I don't care how long you stay But that good kind treatment, bring you back home someday CHORUS: Someday, baby, you ain't gonna worry my mind anymore
I have that wind, that old chilly breeze Come blowin' through your BVDs, but CHORUS: Someday, baby, you ain't gonna worry my mind anymore
If you don't quit bettin', boys, them dice won't pass It's gon' send you home on your yas yas yas, but CHORUS: Someday, baby, you ain't gonna worry my life anymore
It ain't but the one thing give a man the blues He ain't got no bottom in his last pair of shoes, but CHORUS: Someday, baby, you ain't gonna worry my mind anymore
I tell all the people in your neighborhood You's a no-good woman, you don't mean no good, but CHORUS: Someday, baby, you ain't gonna worry my mind anymore
All best, Johnm
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Hi all, Sleepy John recorded "Whatcha Doin'?" with Yank Rachell on mandolin and Jab Jones on piano in 1930. It is a tremendous cut, just a spectacular version of the "Sittin' On Top Of The World" model, with some modifications (see the "Vocal Phrasing: The Long And The Short of It" thread). This must be one of the greatest country blues dance numbers ever recorded, because the time just rocks. If this one doesn't put on a smile on your face, you better have your pulse taken.
I married my baby, married her for myself Then if I don't keep her, don't want nobody else CHORUS: Got to give an account, just what, what you do
Now, depot agent, don't tell me no lie Did my baby stop here, did she keep on by? CHORUS
Now I hate to hear Illinois Central blow When my feet get tickled makes me want to go CHORUS
When a man does workin', you know he's doin' what's right Some old low-down rouster, tryin' to steal his wife CHORUS
Now, I got up this morning, couldn't make no time I didn't have no blues, messed all up in mind CHORUS
Now take me, baby, won't be mean no more You can get all my lovin' let that blacksnake go CHORUS
Now, see her in the morning, rag tied 'round her head Ask her to cook your breakfast, swear she near 'most dead CHORUS
Edited to pick up correction from dingwall, 6/20/07
All best, Johnm
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Hi all "Floating Bridge", which was recorded by Sleepy John with Hammie Nixon in 1935, is a rare narrative blues that recounts a tale of a near brush with death that John Estes had after falling off a car ferry crossing a river. Only the timely intervention of Hammie Nixon saved Sleepy John from a premature death. Sleepy John sings of the experience with great feeling. "Floating Bridge" follows the 16-bar model of "Careless Love". In the second verse, Sleepy John inserts an r between the two syllables of "going", as was often done by blues singers when successive syllables ended and began with vowel sounds.
Now I never will forget that floating bridge (3) Tell me five minutes time under water I was hid
When I was going down I thowed up my hands Now, when I was going down, I thowed up my hands (2) Please, take me on dry land
Now they carried me in the house and they laid me 'cross the blank't (3) "Bout a gallon-and-half muddy water I had drank
They dried me off and they laid me in the bed Now, they dried me off and they laid me in the bed (2) Couldn't hear nothin' but muddy water runnnin' through my head
Now, my mother often taught me, "Quit playin' a bum" (2) Now, my mother often taught me, son, "Quit playin' a bum, Go somewhere settle down and make a crop"
Now, people was standin' on the bridge, screamin' and cryin' Peoples on the bridge was screamin' and cryin' Now, the peoples on the bridge, standin' screamin' and cryin' "Lord, have mercy while's we gwine."
Edited 2/1/07 to pick up correction from banjochris Edited to pick up corrections from dingwall, 6/20/07
All best, Johnm
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Re: "Floating Bridge"--Ry Cooder said that when they pulled Sleepy John out of the water, he was still sleeping. Obviously apocryphal, but it adds certain a embellishment to the story behind the song.
That's really interesting, Stuart. Perhaps this is one instance in which narcolepsy had an up side. For all I know, this is a medical possibility. Any M.D. Weenies out there? All best, Johnm
Re: "Floating Bridge"--Ry Cooder said that when they pulled Sleepy John out of the water, he was still sleeping. Obviously apocryphal, but it adds certain a embellishment to the story behind the song.
I assume "the story" referred to being what he told Sam Charters in the summer of 1962:
I was travelin' in Hickman, Kentucky, and the car went in the high water, the '37 flood it was. Got going to my cousin's home and had to go across one of them floating bridges tied to the cable there, you know, to keep it from floating away, and we got on that bridge and hit that pretty rough, you know, the way he was driving He lost control of the car and it went off to the left. I was sitting on the far side putting some strings in my shoes and I was the last one. There's two-three on the other side of me and that made me last getting out on the bridge.
Well, my cousin, it knocked him in the head scuffling in the car. He cut hisself and he's sitting up there on a log and he asks, "Everybody out?" "Unun, John's still in there." By that time I had come up the third time. He jumped off that board and saved me. He got me and put me under his arm and treaded water up to the bridge and pulled me up on to it.
Ry made the comment--as a joke--when talking about the background of the song. It was in the early seventies and it was either at a workshop that was held as part of the annual spring Blues Festival at UVM, or perhaps during one of his gigs in NYC. It was so long ago that I can't be sure--but it did get a laugh. I don't know what Ry's source was for the story. Maybe it was Sam Charters, but it have no way of knowing.
Stu
P.S. Anyone out there recall seeing Ken Bloom during that time? I saw him open for Ry once and he was impressive--played a slide piece on the autoharp.
Hi all, "I Ain't Gonna Be Worried No More" was recorded by Sleepy John with Hammie Nixon on harmonica and Lee Brown on kazoo. It is a rollicking sort of raggy song, working from a mold like "Mama Don't Allow", except that the instrumental response at the end of each of the refrain lines is shortened by Sleepy John, so that the form works out as follows: | I | I | I | | I | I | V7 | | I | I7 | IV | IV--I | | I | V7 | I | The way the kazoo and harmonica interact on this song is a treat.
REFRAIN: Come on down, I ain't gonna be worried no more (2) You know I worried last night and all night before You know by that I won't be worried no more REFRAIN
REFRAIN: (2) I was worried for you, I was worried for me You know by that I'm gon' let it be REFRAIN
REFRAIN: (2) Now look here, baby, see what you done done ____ me love you now your man done come REFRAIN
REFRAIN: (2) Now my baby's doin' something that I never could stand I b'lieve she's runnin' with a coon can game REFRAIN
REFRAIN: (2) Now I bought some slippers and I bought some socks Come home last night and had the back door locked REFRAIN
REFRAIN: (2) Look here, baby, see what you done done ___ me love you now your man done come REFRAIN
All best, Johnm
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Hi all, Sleepy John recorded "My Black Gal Blues" with Yank Rachell on mandolin and Jab Jones on piano, I believe. I need to get the two Document John Estes releases. I have this on a Czech issue, and the information it has on personnel for the different tunes is contradictory to the sounds you hear, listing harmonica where none is being played, etc. In any event, I had never heard this recording until yesterday, and it is now one of my very favorite Sleepy John cuts. Jab Jones starts with a very grand intro that sounds, incidentally, as though it supplied the idea for Thelonius Monk's tune, "Blue Monk". Sleepy John comes in singing one of the prettiest blues melodies I have every heard. There were plenty of strong singers in this style, but to sing with nuance was not so common. To be able to sing and play strongly, but with nuance as well, there's something to shoot for; that club doesn't have a very big membership. Sleepy John's inspired performance must have inspired his bandmates, as well, because they do an amazingly varied job of accompanying him over the course of the tune. Yank phrases the melody right with Sleepy John in the early verses, and it is really striking to hear how closely he follows John's statement of the melody. The way that Jab and Yank play time throughout the song is mysterious, for they change the underlying feel as the song goes along. Everything really came together on this performance. It's one of the best I've ever heard in the style, and, oddly, I have never heard it covered. Maybe people are scared off at the prospect of having their singing compared with Sleepy John's, which is a pretty scary thought, come to think of it. I think the word "buggish", in verse three, can be taken to mean "sexually charged to the point of indiscretion". It always appears in the context in which it is used here. In the last verse, Sleepy John pronounces the word "cover", "kyivver". "Heist" for "hoist", as in verse two, is a common pronunciation, more common than "hoist", in fact.
Black gal, she took a knife, scared my brown to death If I hadn'ta had my pistol, 'spect I woulda run myself Hadn'ta had my pistol, 'spect I woulda run myself
When you see me comin', heist [sic] your window high When you see me leavin', hang your head and cry When you see me leavin', hang your head and cry
Now if I just hadda listened, what my mama said I woulda been at home, Lord, in my feather bed I woulda been at home, Lord, in my feather bed
Got a man on your man, kid man on your kid, Lord, she done got so buggish, don't try to keep it hid She done got so buggish, don't try to keep it hid
Now I got up this mornin', blues all around my bed I turned back my cover, blues all in my bed Turned back my cover, blues all in my bed.
All best, Johnm
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Interesting, Johnm. A while ago, in one of the vocal form threads, I asked if there were any other examples of an ABB scheme similar to the one verse from Tommy Johnson's Canned Heat Blues. This would seem to be an example with every verse following that scheme. Thanks. All for now. John C.
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Interesting, Johnm. A while ago, in one of the vocal form threads, I asked if there were any other examples of an ABB scheme similar to the one verse from Tommy Johnson's Canned Heat Blues. This would seem to be an example with every verse following that scheme.
In addition to the ABB scheme of Black Mattie mentioned earlier in this thread...
Thanks for the cover info, Alex. It's interesting that not that many John Estes tunes have been recorded by present-day players, but when they are recorded, it seems the same two or three tunes are chosen. I believe Ry Cooder also did "Drop Down Mama" on his very first solo album, and Taj Mahal did both "Milk Cow Blues" (which he called "Leavin' Trunk") and "Everybody's Got To Make A Change" on his first album on Columbia. "Divin' Duck Blues" has also been covered a fair number of times. Maybe we can do a Sleepy John preparation project in advance of Port Townsend next summer to get people to work up some of the less (or never) covered tunes like "Black Mattie Blues", "My Black Gal Blues", or "Clean Up At Home". It would be great to put together some guitar, mandolin and piano combos there, and there is going to be a tremendous piano instructor named Erwin Helfer on staff. Or some of the Sleepy John and Hammie numbers could be worked up; it's something to think about, at any rate. All best, Johnm
Hi all, "The Girl I Love, She Got Long Curly Hair", recorded in 1929, is one of the earlier recorded numbers by the trio of Sleepy John Estes, guitar, Yank Rachell, mandolin, and Jab Jones, on piano, and like most of the numbers recorded by that trio, is a beautifully worked out ensemble piece. Its melody bears some similarity to that of "Rollin' and Tumblin'", but is more complex in its details. Robert Johnson's "Traveling Riverside Blues" very closely tracks the melody of "The Girl I Love, She Got Long Curly Hair". Sleepy John occasionally hits an eerie major seventh note in his rendition of the melody; you can hear it on the syllable "roll" in the final verse. The song is a 12-bar blues, with the fourth bar in each four-bar phrase lengthened by two beats to accommodate the vocal pick-ups for the next phrase. Yank Rachell plays a great sort of "worrying" signature lick in the third and fourth bars of each four-bar phrase.
Now, I'm going to Brownsville, take that right hand road (2) Lord, I ain't gon' stop walkin' 'til I get in sweet mama's door
Now the girl I'm lovin' she got this great long curly hair (2) And her mama and her papa, they sure don't 'low me there
If you catch my jumper, hang it upside your wall (2) Now you know by that, babe, I need my ashes hauled
Now whatcha gon' do, babe, your dough roller gone? Whatcha gonna do, babe, your dough roller gone? Go in your kitchen, Lord, and cook until she come ______
All best, Johnm
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