Topic: Turntable for 33 and 78

[Stuart]

Sorry to drift, but that seems to be the nature of threads around here.

I don't have this turntable, but the reviews are positive, for the most part. At $205, it's not a fortune and you can always trade up later on if you want. You're going to need quality cartridges for you records, but that goes with the turf.

Saw this on Youtube:



and there are others.

Here's the B&H page:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/665946-REG/Audio_Technica_AT_LP120_USB_AT_LP120USB_Direct_Drive_Professional.html


In spite of drifting, hopefully you found some of the links informational and helpful.

I'd say go for it. And if you don't like it, you can always blame your decision on me.

BTW, what's your location?

[Bunker Hill]

The hifi nuts went for either a Goldring Lenco or a Thorens back in the 60s - if you could afford them.

Thorens, now there's quality and reliability. Mine has been going strong since 1970 (TD something or another, only half the label remains) when it cost me a relative fortune. I'm probably tempting fate by saying all this and the motor will go up in a puff of smoke the next time it's used.... 

[eric]

Here's one: http://www.califone.com/products/1005.php.

I think Naucks and KABUSA offer some more basic models than the Technics as well.

[Richard]

BH nice to know that we have both been labeled as hi-fi nuts 

The reason I bought the Goldring was that I was able to get it trade and it did 78s which I didn't think the Thorens did at the time or am I wrong?

[Stuart]

Given the visual similarities between the Rek-O-Kut CVS-14 & CVS-16 at Esoteric Sound and Naucks, and the Audio Technica ATLP120, I did a search--I didn't find anything specific, but the chatter at a couple of sites seemed to be of the opinion that they had the same OEM--but that doesn't mean that they are the same turntable. FWIW, a couple of more links:


http://www.esotericsound.com/turntable_cvs_14%20Spec.htm

http://www.esotericsound.com/turntable_cvs_16%20Spec.htm

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/583f30b3a8662772/index.html

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/literature/c8d29c9e674551d9/0460_2903_00_at_lp120_usb_lit.pdf

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/literature/944517aac30a07c5/p52120_01_at_lp120_usb_om.pdf


But the proof is in the listening, and nothing short of a side-by-side comparison is going to give you first hand experience re: how they (as well as all the others) sound to your ears.

[Bunker Hill]

BH nice to know that we have both been labeled as hi-fi nuts  

The reason I bought the Goldring was that I was able to get it trade and it did 78s which I didn't think the Thorens did at the time or am I wrong?

Correct and for that reason I kept the Garrard SP25, when the 78s went (1989) so did that. Just for you Richard I hunted out the receipt for my Thorens TD125. Price 70GBP purchased from Audio Supplies in Stamford Hill, North London. The cost of an SP25 at the time was probably around the 20GBP mark so after 40 years I think I've got my money's worth with the Thorens.

I'm not a hi-fi nut, just an all round nut.

[misterjones]

I think I inquired about this before, but I cannot find the discussion.  So many pardons if I'm asking anyone to repeat himself or herself.

I would like to buy a decent turntable that will play LPs and 78s but won't cost more than about $300  Any suggestions and/or issues I should be concerned about in making a purchase?

I just started my vinyl collection with the original Yazoo Patton double LP.  (Not the reissue, but not the first Yazoo 1020 either.)  I'm hoping it will provide a listening experience that is better (or at least different) that CDs.

[bnemerov]

misterjones--
the rondine jr. model on this page:

https://www117.safesecureweb.com/78rpm/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=17e787d2cfdfcced76fad38825890478&Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=NRC&Category_Code=105

may work for you.
best,
bruce

[Stuart]

Here's the previous thread:

http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=7842.0

[misterjones]

Thanks.  Not sure why I couldn't locate it.  Bad search technique most likely. 

Anyway, anyone who wants to add to or emphasize what was said before, please do so.

[Pan]

I have an old Swiss-made Lenco L75 like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lenco-L75-Turntable-Nice-Condition-/261262573778

I've had it for decades, and it's still working perfectly. Mind you, it is not automatic, so you'll have to get up and remove the tonearm when a record is finished.
On the plus side it also has the speed of 16rpm, which came handy when I was transcribing ultra fast licks from a 33 rpm, at half speed. 

Cheers

Pan

[Stuart]

I just started my vinyl collection with the original Yazoo Patton double LP.  (Not the reissue, but not the first Yazoo 1020 either.)  I'm hoping it will provide a listening experience that is better (or at least different) that CDs.

I think "different" is the word. Like many other forum members, I got my LPs back in the 60s and 70s. I still listen to them, albeit after they have been copied to CDs or on the cassette tapes that I mentioned in the other thread.

Since the reissue LPs were released, better copies of the original 78s have been found in some cases and remastering technology and techniques have vastly improved. Naturally, comparisons have to be made on a case by case basis, but I think the general implications are obvious.

78s are another matter. I'll venture to guess that all of the best copies are owned by the major collectors. And top of the line equipment doesn't go for entry level prices. Glenn Jones told me that several years ago he and the late Jack Rose spent a day with Joe Bussard at Joe's place listening to various records. Glenn said that it was the best audio reproduction that he had ever heard--close your eyes and you were right there. But how many of us are in the position to duplicate even a small fraction of his collection and equipment? "Not for the faint of wallet," as John Tefteller puts it. Here's a link:

http://www.tefteller.com/

But that doesn't mean that you can't enjoy yourself immensely with a $300 turntable and the LPs and 78s that your budget allows. It's just that you want to go into this with both eyes open.

[Lastfirstface]

You'll definitely need a decent 78rpm-specific cartridge and needle too so you can swap it in for playing those slabs of shellac.

[misterjones]

In line with the above advice, my goal - hopefully in addition to my own to enjoyment, which remains to be seen (or heard) - is to provide an assessment of 78 vs vinyl vs CD for someone on a John Q. Public budget.  I would never asume I could even approach the quality of the big boys.

I'll also be comparing jazz and rock vinyl to CDs, but that likely is an entirely different endeavor.

[Stuart]

several links, tangential at best:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/arts/music/12petr.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/25/garden/the-new-audio-geeks.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/10/arts/music/vinyl-records-are-making-a-comeback.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2013/07/25/garden/20130725-AUDIO.html

http://www.musichallaudio.com/