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Allen Brothers Lyrics
« on: February 25, 2012, 03:25:23 PM »
Hey hey hey hey -- here's what I have, verse 4 stumps me.  I am pretty sure it's not what I have written!  Suggestions welcome.  I just love this version of Salty Dog.



New Salty Dog ? the Allen Brothers

Come here mama what?s on your mind
Daddy wants to love you but you won?t give him time

CHORUS:
Y?ain?t nothing but a salty dog
Oh Salty dog
Ha ha ha ha, ha ha
(Hey hey hey)

I got a gal she?s 6 feet tall
Sleeps in the kitchen with her feet in the hall

I got a gal she?s raised in the sticks
She does her lovin? in a Packard Twin 6

I got a gal she rides a river boat
She?d make a good mule just feed her oats

I got a gal she looks so bum
But she?s got a way of lovin? like Wriggly?s got gum

2 little nigras laying in the bed
One rolls over and the other said



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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 04:46:53 PM »
Hi Suzy,
I think it is "She'd make a good mule just leave his oats".  I guess the idea is that she's so appealing that the mule loses interest in eating--pretty impressive!
All best,
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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 04:57:42 PM »
And I believe it's: "She's got more ways of lovin' than Wrigley's got gum"

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 05:53:17 PM »
Thanks gents!

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 08:32:51 PM »
There's a bit of overlap with lyrics they used elsewhere, like on this one:



Bow Wow Blues

I got a gal she?s 6 feet tall
Sleeps in the kitchen with her feet in the hall
She's got a sister she's tall and keen
She runs her tongue like and English Queen

CHORUS:
Bow, Wow
Wow wow wow
I got the bow wow blues

Oh, I got a gal she rides a river boat
She could make a good mule leave his oats
She's got a sister, she's tall and rough
She's a hometown gal and knows her stuff

Oh, I've got a gal shes the vamp of the town
She's strictly tailor-made no hand-me-down
She's got a little sister, she looks so bum
Bus she's got more ways of lovin' than Wrigley's got gum

Oh I got a gal she's six feet tall
Sleeps in the kitchen with her back to the wall
She's got a sister she's tall and keen
She struts her stuff in a Ford limousine

Oh I've got a gal she's an awful [hand shiver?]
She comes to down in a broken-down flivver
She's got a sister and her name is Kate
Struts her stuff in a Cadillac Eight

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 11:51:46 PM »
I'm not familiar with Bow Wow Blues, and look forward to hearing it.  Thanks for pointing out the overlap in lyrics.

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 11:29:39 AM »
'Bow Wow Blues' is on the Old Hat compilation 'Good For What Ails You:Music of the Medicine Shows', which I would definitely recommend.

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 12:35:14 PM »
I'm pretty sure the line in verse 4 is:
"She'd make a good mule just feel his oats."

"Feeling your oats" means exuberant, perhaps manically so. The term goes back to the horse-and-buggy days.

PS: The gum is spelled "Wrigley's," although that's not relevant when you're singing it.

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 01:12:55 PM »
The meaning of "feel" his oats suits the lyric, well, I think, Lyle, but the sound is "leave" his oats.  There's an"l" sound and no "f" sound at the front end, and there's a "v" sound at the back end.
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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 01:17:41 PM »
I agree with John, just listened to both Salty Dog and Bow Wow.  I will say though that "feel his oats" makes good sense.  Good sense and the Allen Brothers, who would ever expect those two things to go together....
Salty Dog is such a great song, whether it's the Booker Orchestra or Papa Charlie Jackson or the Morris Brothers or Red Foley or Flatt & Scruggs.  The Flatt & Scruggs version has been the gateway to a world of old-time music for a lot of people, me for one.

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 01:25:32 PM »
Unfortunately, I have to avoid salty dogs because I'm on a low-sodium diet.

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2012, 03:16:55 PM »
Another great version is the Sam and Kirk McGee recording with the strong minor chords.

I agree with John, just listened to both Salty Dog and Bow Wow.  I will say though that "feel his oats" makes good sense.  Good sense and the Allen Brothers, who would ever expect those two things to go together....
Salty Dog is such a great song, whether it's the Booker Orchestra or Papa Charlie Jackson or the Morris Brothers or Red Foley or Flatt & Scruggs.  The Flatt & Scruggs version has been the gateway to a world of old-time music for a lot of people, me for one.

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2012, 07:22:05 PM »
"Leave his oats" also makes sense, so I don't object. My ears aren't what they used to be.

Lyle

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 02:24:21 PM »
The Allen Brothers' Salty Dog Hey Hey Hey
in verse 5 i think it's Old Lee's Place but you could check that bit especially
it goes like this

Come here mama what?s on your mind
Daddy wants to love you but you won?t give him time

CHORUS:
Ain?t nothing but a salty dog
Oh Salty dog
Ha ha ha ha, ha ha
(Hey hey hey)

Come here mama just look at your sis
she's going down the street she's trying' to twist

She ain't nothing but ..

Ain't one thing but worries my mind
all these women and none of them mine

Ain't nothing but  ?

I got a gal she?s raised in the sticks
She does her lovin? in a Packard Twin 6

She ain't nothing but  ?

I got a gal from Old Lee's place
she does her loving in a Cadillac Eight

Ain't nothing but  ?

Daddy told me mama too
to go with the women would never do

I ain't nothing but ...

Come here mamma look at Jack
goin down the road with a hump in his back

Ain't nothing but  ?

I got a gal seven feet two
sleeps in the kitchen with her feet up the flue

Ain't nothing but  ?

Come here mama just look at Kate
she does her loving in a Cadillac Eight

She ain't nothing but  ?

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 02:36:52 PM »
And the original Allen Brothers Salty Dog Blues is almost identical to the original post of New Salty Dog Blues. I read they re-recorded a selection of their popular tracks for ARC in 1934. Is there a discography anywhere or do I need to buy another book?

BTW the 'leave his oats' line is pretty clear on this version.



Come here mama what?s on your mind
Daddy wants to love you but you won?t give him time

CHORUS:
Y?ain?t nothing but a salty dog
Oh Salty dog
Ha ha ha ha, ha ha
(Hey hey hey)

I got a gal six feet tall
sleeps in the kitchen with her feet in the hall

ain?t nothing but a salty dog ...

I got a gal she?s raised in the sticks
She does her lovin? in a Packard Twin 6

ain?t nothing but a salty dog ...

I got a gal she rides a river boat
She?d make a good mule just leave his oats

ain?t nothing but a salty dog ...
(blow it brother blow it)

I got a gal she looks so bum
But she?s got more ways of lovin? than Wriggly?s got gum

ain?t nothing but a salty dog ...

Two little nigroes laying in the bed
one rolled over and the other said

ain?t nothing but a salty dog ...

EDIT to correct a typo in the last line
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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2012, 02:48:54 PM »
and rather than start a new Allen Brothers lyric thread ...
Johnm thank you for pointing me in the direction of these guys - there is some wonderful songs and playing on these discs.



I also have
Allen's Lying Blues - I'm missing words in verses 5 and 7
tuned up a step or capo on 1 D and C shapes - nice turnaround

I've rambled from Canad' to the Panama Canal
hustled and gambled with many a pal
sailed on the Atlantic for a year or more
I've even been a clerk in a ten cent store

I went from Maine to the Golden Gate
even shook a shimmy with my sister Kate
saw Uncle Jack, the Jelly Roll King
give Clare Bow her diamond ring

I fired the boiler for Ford's sawmill
even draw the water for Jack and Jill
worked a while on the old S.B.
even floated on a cracker down to Tennessee

I tucked the covers for old Queen Anne
I shot three times at a regular man
voted for a Hoover even shined his shoes
I'm the man who wrote the jake walk blues

I'm always bragging wherever I go
'bout building the ark in Jericho
pay ? taxes when they're not misplaced
An' i'm smoking Golden Grain in a Chesterfield's place

I went to school with Red Riding Hood
i've gambled on the rock where Moses stood
saw Gid Tanner when he tried to wed
the Bully Of The Town to Ida Red

I've done the ?? with big Babe Ruth
it's an awful thing to misplace the truth
If you wanna hear another just play the other side
while i take my gal for a buggy ride.

EDIT jake walk not jay cloth
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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 03:05:18 PM »

Bow Wow Blues

Oh I've got a gal she's an awful [hand shiver?]
She comes to down in a broken-down flivver
She's got a sister and her name is Kate
Struts her stuff in a Cadillac Eight

I agree with HAND SHIVER - whatever it might mean. it could be 'CUTS ME DOWN' in the next line

and in the original post I agree with
MAKE A GOOD MULE JUST LEAVE HIS OATS
and
GOT MORE WAYS OF LOVIN' THAN WRIGLEY'S GOT GUM

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Re: Allen Brothers "New Salty Dog"
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2012, 04:06:15 PM »
Hi Gumbo,
Since you're on such a good streak with these, I'll edit the thread title to include all Allen Brothers lyrics.  It was a good call to put them all here rather than doing a separate thread for each song.
All best,
Johnm

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 04:41:24 PM »
Cheers Johnm - I was hoping someone could do that. I'm loving these guys. Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 08:00:54 AM »
Been working on learning the Bow Wow Blues; serendipitous!  In the last stanza, I hear

...she's an awful HEAD shiver

Doesn't make the meaning any clearer though  ;D

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 10:07:20 AM »
Excellent news, Fkeller,  glad I'm not the only one! I'm tending to go with HAND SHIVER, especially since i just found out that wikipedia says:
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A Flivver is slang for an automobile, esp. one that is small, inexpensive, and old.
which would make a Hand Shiver reasonable as in
She's (got) an awful (shaky hand).

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 11:39:32 AM »
Old Black Crow In The Hickory Nut Tree



some great lyrics in this one!

Well listen here folks
I'm gonna tell it to thee
all about the old black crow you see
built his nest in the hickory nut tree
Now ain't that so
i don't know i don't know
Well it certainly is a mystery
about the old black crow in the hickory nut tree

I once knew a doctor and his name was Peck
fell in a well and he broke his neck
served him right he ought t've stayed at home
doctor the sick and leave the well alone
Now ain't that so...

Now I went down to see my old gal Bess
When i got there she's all undressed
i said slip something on and come down here
slipped on the top step and broke her ear
Now ain't that so...

i once knew a gal and her name was Sarah
her mouth was as big as an open umbrella
she's knocked kneed pigeon toed and cross eyed too
looks to New York and sees Kalamazoo
Now ain't that so...

I once knew a man called Fred
he shot at me and i took a fit
i heard the bullet when it passed me
head it again when i passed it
Now ain't that so...

there's a horse and a flea, three little mice
sitting in a corner shooting dice
the horse he slipped and fell on the flea
flea said there's a horse on me
Now ain't that so...

there's a hen and a rooster went a way out west
said the hen to the rooster i love you best
said the rooster said that's a dog gone lie
caught you in the alley with a big Shanghai
Now ain't that so...
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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 05:06:49 PM »
Gumbo:  It's a great song!  Love being able to discuss arcana here too.  Here's my reasoning for "head shiver" (I basically knew what a flivver was but thanks for the concise definition!)

All the other stanzas but the 2nd (she rides a riverboat) start out with a description of the "gal."  Now my thought--backed up by absolutely no solid evidence :)--is that she's so good (or BAD!) looking she makes your head shiver.  Hand shiver makes as much sense as mine so I'm not gonna argue.  Besides, as is often the case with these old scratchy lyrics, there will be another interpretation that will trump both of these.

Cheers!

Fred

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2012, 06:44:28 PM »
"Head shiver", right or wrong, is a great expression.

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2012, 08:46:34 PM »
I hear "hand shiver," which makes me wonder if perhaps the intended line is "I've got a gal, she's an awful hand shifter..." which might make more sense with the car context.

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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 02:58:49 AM »
that's 3 votes to 2 for hand so far then  :D

has anyone got anything for Allen's Lying Blues verses 5 and 7 at the top of this page.
And if anyone knows of an online discography that'd be great. Otherwise I need to know wich book to buy next ....

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 01:05:41 PM »
Gumbo, I think maybe you want to buy Tony Russell's book called Country Music Records:  A Discography.  It's out in paperback and is available used from Amazon (it's used as a textbook for some college courses so people do get rid of them) for about $20, and don't forget to access Amazon from the Weenie site as Weenie gets some miniscule amount each time someone buys something from Amazon accessing from here. 
It is a really amazing book, ALL the country (old-time, Cajun, Western Swing) music from 1921 to 1942.  Super fun to explore.

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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2012, 01:43:04 PM »
Thanks Cleoma. That is exactly what i need (and i got it through the link too) :)

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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2012, 06:22:36 PM »
y'know it's a strangely ironic feeling having to wait 4 days for the entire history of recorded Old Timey music.

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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2012, 04:39:04 AM »
i love the way these guys step out into absurdity with straight faces.



Unlucky Man - recorded Thursday May 21st 1931

Now friends if you'll listen to my troubles
and bear with me all that you can
for I'm an uncomfortable horrible terrible unconsolable unlucky man

was born in an unlucky climate
that's why I'm so sad and so 'lone
but what is the use of me trying
when I wish that i'd never been born but now ..

don't you make light of my troubles
bear with them all that you can
for I'm an uncomfortable horrible terrible unconsolable unlucky man

when i was about one and twenty
I sought me a partner in trade
and having the money a-plenty
I married me a lovely old maid
and when we got nicely to living
enjoying the pride of our life
my partner stole all of my money
and then ran away with my wife but now ...

don't you make light of my troubles
bear with them all that you can
for I'm an uncomfortable horrible terrible unconsolable unlucky man

I then started home to my Mama
I never will leave her again
but what is the use of me trying
when I'm such an unlucky man
and when I arrived at the cottage
a-thinking the old folks in bed
my Ma she took me for a robber
and broke the broom over my head

don't you make light of my troubles
bear with them all that you can
for I'm an uncomfortable horrible terrible unconsolable unlucky man
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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2016, 11:59:36 AM »
Hi all,
For "Jake Walk Blues", Austin Allen sang the lead vocal and played tenor banjo, with Lee Allen playing kazoo and guitar out of G position in standard tuning.  I reckon "iron socks" are shackles.  Here is their version of the song:



KAZOO SOLO

I can't eat, I can't talk, been drinking mean jake, Lord, now I can't walk
Ain't got nothing, now, to lose, 'cause I'm a jake-walkin' papa with the Jake Walk Blues

KAZOO SOLO

"Listen here, papa, can't you see, you can't drink jake and get along with me.
You're a jake-wlking papa with the Jake Walk Blues, I'm a red hot mama that you can't afford to lose."

KAZOO/TENOR BANJO SOLO

"Listen here, daddy, while I tell you once more, if you're gonna drink jake, don't you knock at my door."
"Listen here, mama, have to call your hand, I'm a jake-walking papa from a jake walk land."

KAZOO SOLO

I'm not good-looking and I'm not low-down, I'm a jake-walking papa, just hangin' around
Now I've made this song, and it may not rhyme, but I'm a jake-walking papa just havin' a good time

KAZOO/TENOR BANJO SOLO

My Daddy was a gambler and a drunkard, too, if he's living today, he'd have the jake walk, too
When I die, you can have my hand, gonna take a bottle of jake to the Promised Land

KAZOO SOLO X 3 (Spoken during solo: Now I'm feeling kind of drunk, fellas.  Be wearin' jake socks after a while, you know, they call 'em iron socks.  You know, I bet you don't know one smelter, brother.  Which is the other?)

All best,
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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2016, 09:36:47 PM »
Hi all,
The Allen Brothers played "Tiple Blues" out of C  in standard tuning.  It sure has a great melody and really reminds me of another song--"Ginseng Blues"?  The title should really be "Tipple Blues", since it's about a structure at a mine, not a 10-string ukulele.  I believe the technical term for songs like this is "nutty".  Anyhow, here is the song:



KAZOO SOLO

Ain't gonna work on no tipple, ain't gonna load no coal,
Put my head out the window, watch my drive wheels roll, sweet mama,
REFRAIN: You can't read my mind
When you think I'm lovin' you, mama, I'll be quittin' you all the time

KAZOO SOLO

My home ain't here, it's down in Caroline
Got some children down in Georgia, but they sure ain't mine, sweet mama,
REFRAIN: You can't read my mind
When you think I'm lovin' you, mama, I'll be quittin' you all the time

KAZOO SOLO

Ain't gonna marry, ain't gonna settle down
Stay right here, my mama, run these married women down, sweet mama
REFRAIN: You can't read my mind
When you think I'm lovin' you, mama, I'll be quittin' you all the time

KAZOO SOLO

All best,
Johnm

 
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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2016, 02:24:09 PM »

The Allen Brothers played "Tiple Blues" out of C  in standard tuning.  It sure has a great melody and really reminds me of another song--"Ginseng Blues"?

"Ginseng Blues" by the Kentucky Ramblers it is indeed:



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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2016, 04:04:26 PM »
Hi all,
For "I'll Be Here A Long, Long Time", Lee Allen played guitar out of E position in standard tuning and Austin played the kazoo, with both brothers singing.  Their vocal harmonies are really nice on this cover of "Sitting On Top of the World", and their over-all sound is less novelty-ish than it usually was.  Here is the song:



KAZOO SOLO

I left the judge, he's shedding tears, "I'm sorry boy, just ninety-nine years."
REFRAIN: I've done wrong, so I don't worry, I'll be here a long, long time

KAZOO SOLO ON REFRAIN

High-powered women and high-powered cars, now I'm in here, behind these bars
REFRAIN: I'm in here, so I don't worry, I'll be here a long, long time

KAZOO SOLO ON REFRAIN

Every day, 'bout the hour of nine, that mean old jailer says, "Fall in line."
REFRAIN: Fall in line, 'cause I don't worry, I'll be here a long, long time

KAZOO SOLO ON REFRAIN

Striped pants and a striped shirt, with pick and shovel I have to work
REFRAIN: I'm gonna work, 'cause I don't worry, I'll be here a long, long time

KAZOO SOLO ON REFRAIN

Like a bird in a cage, I can not fly, my time's so long I know I'll die
REFRAIN: Ninety-nine years, but I don't worry, I'll be here a long, long time

All best,
Johnm
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Re: Allen Brothers Lyrics
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2020, 10:16:25 PM »
I know this is an old thread, but I was looking for some lyrics to Bow Wow blues and stumbled on this.
The lyrics I have for the last verse are

I got a gal, she's an awful ??? killer

I put in "man", because it seemed to fit.

but, it eh wrigley's gum verse I would like to know what her sister loves... any ideas?

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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2020, 05:36:16 AM »
Hi parky,
That song was posted years ago, but never finished and put in Weeniepedia, so I'll give it a go now and see if I can get it. I think this song has Austin singing lead and playing tenor banjo and Lee playing guitar out of C position in standard tuning and the kazoo. The word "killer" never appears in the last verse, parky, and Wrigley's is a gum manufacturer.  Here is "Bow Wow Blues":



INTRO SOLO

Oh, I got a gal, six feet tall, sleeps in the kitchen with her feet in the hall
She's got a sister, she's tall and keen, she runs her tongue like an English queen
REFRAIN: Bow wow, wow-wow-wow, I got the bow wow blues

SOLO

Oh, I got a gal, she rides a river boat, she could make a good mule leave his oats
She's got a sister, she's tall and rough, she's a hometown gal and knows her stuff
REFRAIN: Bow wow, wow-wow-wow, I got the bow wow blues

SOLO

Oh, I got a gal, she's the vamp of the town, she's strictly tailor-made, no hand-me-down
She's got a sister, she looks so bum, but she's got more ways of lovin' than Wrigley's got gum
REFRAIN: Bow wow, wow-wow-wow, I got the bow wow blues

SOLO X 2

Oh, I got a gal she's six feet tall, sleeps in the kitchen with her back to the wall
She's got a sister, she's tall and keen, she struts her stuff in a Ford limousine
REFRAIN: Bow wow, wow-wow-wow, I got the bow wow blues

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Oh, I got a gal, she's an awful hand-shiver, she comes to town in a broken-down flivver
She's got a sister and her name is Kate, she struts her stuff in a Cadillac 8
REFRAIN: Bow wow, wow-wow-wow, I got the bow wow blues

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Deet dee-deet deet dee-dee-dee
Deet deet deet dee-deet a dee-dee

All best,
Johnm








 
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