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Offline banjochris

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Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:02:46 PM »
I think it's cool he sings Johannesburg -- very unexpected. I listened to all the modern recordings of "No Special Rider" that I have, by the way, which is about seven, and he never sings either the wander to the door or the Johannesburg verse! Oh, well.




Here's the lyrics to "Good Grinding," which has Little Brother backing up Irene Scruggs for Paramount back in 1930. We did this with Sausage Grinder for a long time in kind of a Blind Boy Fuller/Josh White style.


I was standing in the door when my grandma cried,
"If good grinding kills grandma, let old grandma die."
I was standing in the door when I heard my grandma cry,
"If good grinding kills grandma, let old grandma die."

Well, I've got a meat grinder, it belongs to me,
It's got good movements, I use it constantly.
I've got a meat grinder, it belongs to me,
It's got good movements, I use it constantly.

You don't like good grindin', you ain't gotta bit of sense,
It's been going on ever since the world commenced,
If you don't like good grindin', ain't gotta bit of sense,
'Cause it's been going on, ever since the world commenced.

Well, it's good for what ails you, sure ain't no lie,
I want one last grindin' just before I die.
It's good for what ails you, sure ain't no lie,
I want one last good grindin' just before I die.

When I found my grinder, he was livin' in the sticks,
Didn't know nothin', I taught him lots of tricks,
When I first saw my grinder, livin' down in the sticks,
Well he didn't know nothin', I taught him lots of tricks.

Now he's learned how to grind me, one steady roll,
The way he does it satisfies my soul
Well he learned how to grind me, with one steady roll,
And the way he does it satisfies my very soul.

Now grind me, Mr. Grinder, till I lose my mind,
Don't mind goin' crazy over this steady grind.
Grind me, Mr. Grinder, till I lose my mind,
I don't mind goin' crazy, over this steady grind.
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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 06:06:52 PM »


And another accompaniment to Irene Scruggs, "Must Get Mine in Front." Little Brother recorded this one several times by himself in later years.

Must Get Mine in Front

Susie runs a bakery shop down the street,
Sells jelly cakes and always looks neat,
Sam hung around said, mama, give me a break,
I want you to credit me for some of that cake.
I'm going up the river, got a job loadin' sacks,
Pay you for that cake, when I get back.

She looked at him and said, don't be no ham,
What kind of fool do you think I am?

Some folks may trust you to come back and pay,
I must get mine in front.
I'll trust you tomorrow if you pay me today,
I must get mine in front.

Now you goin' up the river and you carry your sack,
This jelly roll will be here, when you get back.

I trusted the man, who lived next door,
Ever' since then he don't speak to me no more.

I trusted a man who said he'd be back again,
The very next day he took a trip to Spain.

I trusted your father, he ain't no good,
He owes every woman in the neighborhood.

Some folks may trust you to come back and pay,
I must get mine in front, hear me talkin?,
I must get mine in front.

(solo)

Now your uncle owes me, he sure is bad pay,
He must think I got this stuff to give away.

So I ain't puttin' out nothin' till you pay off,
I must get mine in front, I ain't jokin',
I must get mine in front.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2017, 06:27:30 PM by banjochris »

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2019, 11:30:33 AM »
Hi all,
Irene "Chocolate Brown" Scruggs recorded "Itching Heel" at a session in Grafton, Wisconsin on May 26, 1930 for which she was accompanied by Blind Blake, working out of C position in standard tuning.  Blake's playing on the piece is staggering, and makes you realize the extent to which copying his pieces, transcribing them, playing them however you are able doesn't begin to get at what he was able to express in his own style in the moment.  Scruggs does a terrific job on the vocal, too, just as good as it possibly could be.  I'd very much appreciate help with the bent bracketed section in the third verse.  Here is "Itching Heel":



INTRO

The white folks is done started talkin', you better start walkin', they're talkin' 'bout my no-good man
They say he is shiftless, they say he is worthless, I know he ain't the worst in the land
He don't do nothin' but play on his old guitar, while I'm bustin' suds out in the white folks' yard
Now you know that's hard, and I'm getting sick and tired, you know I ain't satisfied, bring me a job,
And then I'll be satisfied, I ain't jokin', mean I'll be satisfied

Now, when his heel is itchin', he want to start driftin', and go a long, long ways from home
Now, when I first met him, he gave me a gold watch and chain, he caught the train today and left me out in the rain
Now, you know that's mean, and it won't be long, before you come driftin' home, maybe in the morning,
He'll come driftin' home, oh baby, he'll come driftin' on home

Just as soon as that train rolls up in the yard, going to follow my man if I have to ride the rods
Was a mean old fireman, as mean as he could be, when I waved at my man, he blew his smoke back at me
Now, you know that's tough, and I don't want to get rough, he carried away my case of change, ain't it a shame?
You know I ain't satisfied, oh baby, you know I ain't satisfied

GUITAR SOLO (Spoken, Scruggs: Ah, play that thing, boy! Blake: I'm gon' try! Scruggs: But you know I ain't jokin', you got to bring me a job!  Blake: Well, I ain't gon' bring no job, 'cause I ain't starving!)

You know I give you your three hot meals every day, while you sit at home and pass the time away
Every time your heel itches, you want to go on strange ground, but if you don't stop chasin' women, you'll break your good thing down
You had a job down on the levee makin' a dollar ten a day, you give the dollar to a high yella and throwed the dime away
Now, you know I'm gonna get you, I mean without a doubt, baby, and put your taillight out, I don't mean maybe,
I meant to put your taillight out, ooh baby, I mean to put your taillight out

Edited 3/20 to pick up correction from Stuart
Edited 3/21 to pick up correction from Johnm
Edited 5/27/23 to pick up corrections from Blues Vintage

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« Last Edit: May 27, 2023, 09:02:17 PM by Johnm »

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2019, 01:42:53 PM »
That's a tough one, John. I definitely hear the long A to start the bracketed section and perhaps chain(s) instead of change, but other than that, I'm at a loss. I did hear "up" before "in" in the "...train rolls in the yard," line though. You might want to give it another listen.

I can't even think of anything that would sound similar and make sense for the section in question. But I do hear Blake playing the guitar, which is mystifying in its own right.

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2019, 02:40:29 PM »
Thanks for the catch on "up" earlier in that same verse, Stuart.  I've made that change, and will keep listening to the other place.  Thanks!
All best,
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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2019, 03:20:59 PM »
"ace of change" sounds somewhat, but not quite, like a variation of Stavin' Chain, which would make sense in this context.  Not to state the obvious here, but Blake pretty much owns playing out of C position, if you ask me.
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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 05:01:15 PM »
From the context she is definitely singing about her man being carried away by the train. But what are the words she's using? Stavin" Chain makes sense if it were a mispronunciation, but I don't think what she sings supports it. It doesn't sound even close. Could it have been a complete flub? Or perhaps some obscurity? 
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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 09:59:48 AM »
Hi all,
I think I have the mystery phrase in the third verse:
   he carried away my CASE OF CHANGE
In other words, when her man split he stole her penny jar that she kept her loose change in; it makes sense of the beginning of the line.  She not only lost her man, but he took her money, the bum.
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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 11:30:10 AM »
It could very well be, John. Makes sense to me. It fits right in with the "Stole all my lovin', and my money too," theme we hear elsewhere, as well as the overall story line of the song.

Edited to add: "Case of chains" (jewelry box of necklaces, etc.) ran though my mental list of possibilities yesterday, but I didn't think it was correct based on my assumptions at the time. However, I thought I should at least mention it so you can dismiss it.


« Last Edit: March 21, 2019, 12:04:35 PM by Stuart »

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2023, 01:14:08 PM »
Hi all,
Irene Scruggs recorded "Cherry Hill Blues" at a session in Grafton, Wisconsin on May 28, 1930, working under the name "Chocolate Brown". She was accompanied by Blind Blake, working out of, for him, the relatively uncommon playing position of E in standard tuning. I sure wish these two had recorded more titles, because they really worked well together. Deep Morgan was (is?) a neighborhood in St. Louis. Cherry Hill, as used in the song, appears to be a profession, or a professional who works in a particular location rather than the location itself. EDITED TO ADD: Blues Vintage's correction of the lyric to "Cherry Heels" makes it seem really likely that the record company misapprehended the title of the song.  Blake's rhythmic feel on this cut is very uncharacteristic for him; he sounds almost as though he was channeling Sylvester Weaver. See what you think. Here is "Cherry Hill Blues":



INTRO

Well, friends, do remember me
Well, friends, do remember me
I'm comin' back to Deep Morgan and to my old-time used-to-be

You can stand on the corner of 16th and Morgan Street
You can stand on the corner, 16th and Morgan Street
And see the Cherry Heels go by, like police on their beat

When you talk about them, even call them out of their name
When you talk about them, even call them out of their name
Well, no matter what you say, they'll come to see you just the same

Well, I'm gonna tell you what these boys will do sometimes
Well, I'm gonna tell you what these boys will do sometimes
They'll take all your money, come back when they change their minds

Well, Deep Morgan keeps on callin' me
Well, Deep Morgan keeps on callin' me
You see the boys on every corner, it ain't like it used to be

CODA

Edited 5/27 to pick up corrections from Blues Vintage

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« Last Edit: May 27, 2023, 09:04:20 PM by Johnm »

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2023, 05:47:40 PM »
Itching heel

Spoken Scruggs: -But- You know I ain't jokin'

4.4 Now, -you know- I'm gonna get you




Cherry Hill Blues

1.3 I'm comin' back to Deep Morgan and see -to- my old-time used-to-be

Morgan street?

Possibly Cherry Heels instead of "cherry hills". Name for a pimp in the late 20s early 30s?

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2023, 09:05:41 PM »
Hi Blues Vintage,
I re-listened to both songs, agree with all of your suggestions and have made the changes. That was a great catch on "Cherry Heels"! Thanks!

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2023, 11:47:46 AM »
Hi all,
I thought I'd keep going on the releases on which Blind Blake accompanied Irene Scruggs. "Stingaree Man Blues" was recorded in Grafton on May 26, 1930, a the same session at which the duo recorded "Itching Heel". Blake was accompanying Irene Scruggs out of G position in standard tuning, and at an extremely sedate tempo, he keeps things exciting and moving along by playing around with the time in his accompaniment fills. His sound here is so pianistic. Here is "Stingaree Man Blues":



INTRO

Stingaree man, why don't you let me alone?
Stingaree man, why don't you let me alone?
Well, I's tried to be good, and I, well I don't want to leave my home

Well, I can't eat a bite, I can't do a thing
Well, I can't eat a bite, I can't do a thing
'Cause everywhere I go, I can't feel your sting

Stingaree man keeps hanging around my door
Stingaree man keeps hanging around my door
Well, he's made me like it, I can't behave no more

Stingaree man, hear me cryin' for you
Stingaree man, hear me cryin' for you
Sting me one more time, I'll do anything you want me to

Lord, I'm sad and blue, sitting here cold in hand
Lord, I'm sad and blue, sitting here cold in hand
Well, I wouldn't mind being poor, if I could have my stingaree man

CODA

All best,
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« Last Edit: May 28, 2023, 02:45:30 PM by Johnm »

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2023, 03:28:19 PM »
I thought I could contribute some lyrics, for once.
Unfortunately I no longer own the CD or lp this is on "I Can't Be Satisfied: Early American Women Blues Singers Vol. 1 - Country", so I cannot identify the guitarist backing Scruggs here, and I do not know the recording date.



My Back to the Wall

Everyone is screaming trouble, times ain't like they used to be
Everyone is screaming trouble, times ain't like they used to be
You can hardly hold your man, your job is uncertain, guaranteed

Well hard luck had me running, now my back is turned to the wall
Hard luck had me running, my back is turned to the wall
But no matter what you say, a good woman never falls

Well you talk about drunken women, the kind that walk the streets all night
Well you talk about drunken women, kind that walk the streets all night
But that's the only kind of woman, that you men are going to treat right

So don't be no idle woman, don't be no fanfoot clown
So don't be no idle woman, don't be no fanfoot clown
If your man is double crossin', don't you start to runnin' 'round

Now I tell you the reason I don't like a single man much
I tell you the reason I don't like a single man much
Well a single man's all right, but he ain't got that married man's touch

coda

edited 5/29 to pick up corrections from Blues Vintage and John Miller
« Last Edit: May 29, 2023, 09:19:52 AM by David Kaatz »

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Re: Irene Scruggs Lyrics
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2023, 03:43:20 PM »
Good stuff, David. Great so see one from you.

It's a fanfoot clown in verse 4.

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