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Folklore is not as easy to collect as it sounds. The best source is where there are the least outside influences, and these people, being usually under-privileged, are the shyest... The Negro, in spite of his open-faced laughter, his seeming acquiescence, is particularly evasive... The Indian resists curiosity by a stony silence. The Negro offers a feather-bed resistance - Zora Neale Hurston, Mules and Men (1935)
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I don't know if I would qualify this as "better than the original", but I really like it. Dylan's original is, in fact, not entirely original itself, as he "stole" it from Martin Carthy's version of "Scarborough Fair" and who knows where that started in the British folk tradition?
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« Last post by Johnm on January 06, 2025, 12:13:25 PM »
Thanks so much for the help, Blues Vintage and Doug, it made a huge difference. I thought I had done fairly well, but there was so much that I had missed. I think it's really good now, based on your fixes. Thanks!
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« Last post by Doug on January 06, 2025, 08:23:58 AM »
I don't know if it helps, but the lyrics are about the biblical story of Job (chapter 1), even though Blind Gussie is singing "Joseph" throughout. In 3.1, I first heard "Joseph killed his callouses dead..." I suspect callouses should be "cattle is." Listening to 4.1, I think both verses start with "Joseph your [catttle/children] is dead..." For what Joseph says in verse 5, is it "not as a wife" or "not as a wise" ? (The second is closer to the biblical story, but it might not be what is being sung) I agree with Blues Vintage about Old Satan in verse 6. Cheerily, Doug
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« Last post by GhostRider on January 05, 2025, 07:01:48 PM »
"I Heard It Through The Grapevine"--original version a great one by Gladys Knight and the Pips A year later, Marvin Gaye's version took it to a new level.
I enjoy the Creedence Clearwater Revival version too.
Yea, that's the best version of the song I've ever heard. Alex
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I'll keep listening, tough one.
This is what i have to offer for now
He may begin most of his verses with "oh" instead of "old"
2.3 Joseph gave a shout -Old Joe begin to shout-
3.1 Joseph your ? is dead gals or cows?
Report came in ?
3.3 give it -all-
"here" instead of "else" for 3.4 3.5 3.6 (also for the 6th verse)
4.1 Joseph [killed] -your- childrens is dead
4.5 -ain't- instead of "people"
6.1 -Old Satan- comin' for to try your soul
6.2 take me clear out of the town ?
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« Last post by Johnm on January 05, 2025, 11:36:17 AM »
Hi all, Blind Gussie Nesbit recorded "Canaan Land" at his second recording session, on September 9, 1935, in New York City. He accompanied himself in G position in standard tuning. I really like his singing and playing, but find him hard to understand sometimes, so I'd very much appreciate help with anything I'm missing or have wrong. Here is "Canaan Land":
REFRAIN: I'm on my way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, praise God, I'm on my way, oh
Joseph was the richest man, he had trouble at home and all over the Land, Joseph was afflicted from his head to his feet, his servants came In, saying, "Joe, how you feel?", old Joe begin to shout, 'bout, "I'm on my Way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, to Canaan land, if Jesus Will, my leader be, I'm on my Way, praise God, on my way", oh
Joseph, your cattles is dead, they both come in, while he's lyin' on the Bed, say "The Lord give the greatest and the Lord give the smallest, and Blessed be the name of the Lord, give it up, hardly anybody Here, wants to go with me, hardly anybody Here, wants to go with me, if nobody Here, I'll journey on, I'm on my Way, praise God, I'm on my way", oh
Joseph, your childrens is dead, they both come in, while he's lyin' on his Bed, say "The Lord hath giveth, He taketh away, Blessed be the name of the Lord that giveth, nothin' you can Say, can change my mind, people, nothin' you can Say, can change my mind, not either will it Change, this heart of mine, I'm on my Way, praise God, I'm on my way", oh
Joseph, your wife want to know, if you got your right mind, she let your place go, Joseph looked around at his wife with a smile, "You speak as a foolish, and not as a Wise, but there's nothin' you can Say, can change my mind, there's nothin' you can Say, can change my mind, not either will it Change, this heart of mine, I'm on my Way, praise God, I'm on my way" old
Joseph, what do you suppose? Old Satan comin' for to try your Soul, Joseph thanked God, said, I'll clear out of the town, I'm goin' to the Country, no sickness found. Hardly anybody Here, wants to go with me, hardly anybody Here, wants to go with me, if nobody Here, I'll journey on, I'm on my Way, praise God, I'm on my way"
REFRAIN: I'm on my way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, to Canaan land, I'm on my Way, praise God, I'm on my way
Edited 1/6/25 to pick up corrections from Blues Vintage and Doug
All best, Johnm
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« Last post by Andi on January 04, 2025, 11:48:58 AM »
Thanks so much for this great work John! I'll enjoy diving deeper into Bo Carters music and this is going to be a big help... Andi (long time lurker from Germany, living in Italy, first time posting, love this page since many years...)
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« Last post by Stuart on January 03, 2025, 05:19:55 PM »
Hi Blues Vintage: You very well may be correct, but when I read the lyrics and listened to the song, "Georgia Rub" struck me as more akin to Big Bill's "Saturday Night Rub." Bo used it in "Let's Get Drunk Again," so that's definite evidence with respect to "rub" and "tub," but in this case I'm not 100% certain. It's not the tightest set of lyrics I've heard, so I'm open to various possibilities.
As an aside, a late friend of mine worked as a bartender in a nightclub for several years. He would refer to it as "The Double D Double F Shift," referring to the clientele's favorite activities. --"Drink, Dance, Fight and Reproduce" (Conforming to forum rules)
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« Last post by Johnm on January 03, 2025, 05:12:38 PM »
Thanks very much for the positive comments, I really appreciate them. I realized there were a couple of more aspects of Bo's playing that I wanted to mention and so I edited my post back a little ways in this thread to talk about Bo's treatment of musical time and how he accompanied his singing. All best, Johnm
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« Last post by Slack on January 03, 2025, 02:01:40 PM »
Very cool. That jangle-y Stella compliments his voice perfectly.
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