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Title: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: lindy on August 21, 2003, 12:55:36 PM
Yo, Weenies,

I'm having fun learning the Little Hat Jones licks that Ari taught us, but I sure need help with the lyrics to Cherry Street Blues. ?Here's what I've got so far . . . any help in filling the blanks will be much appreciated.

Cherry Street Blues

Train come to San Antone, man, and stop in the yard.
?? Just as sure as the ?? train come to San Antone, man, and stop in the yard.
It's gonna take two dollars and a quarter, I declare to ??___________??

Mmmmmmm baby, tell me what's on your mind.
Mmmmmmm baby, tell me what's on your mind.
??________________??

Gonna move to the bottom, camp out on the ground.
I'm gonna move to the bottom, man, and camp out on the ground.
Every morning I call my woman just to hear my echo sound.

I got a woman in San Antone, I declare that is sweet to me.
I got a woman in San Antone, man, really sweet to me.
Most of you people don't know she's here, but she lives on Cherry Street.

Mmmmmmmm, oh lawd lawdy lawd.
Mmmmmmmm, oh lawd lawdy lawd.
??_______________?? to be my brother-in-law.

You men got these women, you got to treat them nice and kind.
You men got these sweet women, how come you don't be nice and kind?
Cause don't you know Little Hat got something that'll change your sweet woman's mind.

Mmmmmmmm, know you ain't gonna think it's so.
Well I'm gonna tell you men something, I know you ain't gonna think it's so.
(He doesn't sing a response line here -- anyone want to guess what Little Hat was gonna say that us men wouldn't think it's so?)

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

Ari sang the following lyrics when he played a demo of Cherry Street Blues, but they actually belong to another one of Little Hat's songs. ?I'd love to know what the first one means:

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, baby don't you think I know?
Mmmmmmmmmmmm, baby don't you think I know?
When a woman makes a man love her, people can shake hands and go.

Say "Good morning, Conductor, won't you please let a broke man ride?"
"Good morning, Conductor, won't you please let a broke man ride?"
I want to see my sweet woman just one more time before she dies.


Also, I found a web page that has a picture of Little Hat as an old man and a one-paragraph biography. ?It's at

http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/nostalgia/Notables.html

It looks like a page from a website dedicated to "notable figures" from the state of Texas; you'll have to scroll down to the third entry on the page.

Thanks!
Lindy
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: waxwing on August 24, 2003, 10:16:39 AM
Hey Lindy,
Well, I tracked down Cherry Street Blues in Bob McLeod's labor of love, the Document Lyric Volumes. This is what he has in your blank spots:

          send me a post card.

          Because you really keeps me troubled, I really think about you all of the time.

          I want Eddie Duncan, listen,

Also, Lindy, in the second verse he has 'now honey' and 'honey' instead of 'tell me'.

Once again, hats off to Bob McLeod for this massive resource. So you guys know, I have all the current Volumes of these lyric transcriptions. However, I am not keen on posting whole songs on the web. But, if you post what you've got, as Lindy did, I'll look up Bob's transcriptions of the missing bits. Only seems fair to Bob.
All for now.
John C.
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: lindy on August 24, 2003, 10:48:57 AM

Thanks, Waxwing, for opening my eyes to yet another resource that I was totally oblivious to, and for filling in those blanks.  Later on today I'll post the full lyrics for Cherry Street Blues and for Kentucky Blues, which I worked on the last couple of days.

Lindy
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 24, 2003, 11:53:11 AM
Lindy,

We worked up the lyrics to Kentucky Blues on the old list, I'll delve into the archives laters. Thanks for the link to the LHJ article & pic, cool.

Rivers.
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 24, 2003, 12:11:25 PM
Here's the Little Hat Thread from the old list; I've obfuscated the email addresses for anti spam purposes. It's in a couple of chunks as it was too long for the list engine to accept first time:

-------------------- ?32 ?--------------------
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:37:04 -0400
From: uncle bud
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

At 11:41 AM 6/5/99 +1200, you wrote:

>I got into Kentucky Blues after I heard Book's live album. I transcribed
>_his_ lyrics - they are on the weenie site in my set and might save you some
>typing but you need to check them against the original, which I didn't have
>at the time. Frank emailed me and pointed out that the town he mentions is
>'Seguine', Texas, not 'Zucchini' (!) which was my guess at the time, and I'm
>sure there are other differences. Hopefully we'll soon be able to replace
>those lyrics with the certified set we're working on now.
>
>It is in E, std tuning, and plays really well.

Yup, it's in E (again, I think it's capoed up a fret). I play it like so:

E chord with a high G, then F# then E in the high E, then some goddawful
chord ;-) for which I substitute an A with the same melodic riff of G, F#,
E, then back to the E pattern. After that it's a C#-like chord: don't know
exactly what it's called but is fretted x4x404 (sliding up from 2nd fret in
the same position) - that Charlie Patton chord :-). Then everything down a
fret for a beat to C with the same chord, then back up to C#. Then an F#7
(fretted xx4320 or thumb over top 2x4320), Am (and add the F# on the high E
for the melody), back to E. Turnaround is the standard E7 position moving
down from the 5th fret of the A string.

So that's E, A, E, C#, F#7, Am, E.

I was just playing this this morning. Don't sing it yet, and those lyrics
are pretty tricky to decipher. I am off to find mark's lyrics from Book's
version right now!

See Frank's message for where to get more Little Hat on CD. I have the 2nd
one he refers to. I must admit, the two Little Hat tunes on the yazoo
compilation are the best of the bunch (tunes I really love). Some of the
other material is similar, not quite as well executed or reproduced. The
Story of Blues is a lot cheaper than the Document here in Montreal.

Cheers,
Andrew







-------------------- ?33 ?--------------------
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:31:33 -0400
From: uncle bud
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

After checking out Mark's transcription of Roy Bookbinder's version of
Kentucky Blues I've come up with the following for Little Hat's version.
Corrections, dissenting opinions welcome! What with the submarine line? The
fourth verse is a problem too...

Kentucky Blues (Little Hat Jones)
Standard tuning key of E

Well whilst we here tryin' a have our fun,
The law jumped up and said "Nobody run"
Well you know I'm long gone from Kentucky,
Long gone, I'm got away lucky
Cause I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

Well my woman poked her head from [???] the bed
She said please don't let them kill Mr. Little Hat dead
It's no use a-worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long
Told her not to sing this worried song
Cause I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

Well once I knowed a man they called him Austin Jack
Stopped and put the bloodhounds right on my track
Course the [blind] just could not catch my scent,
You know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
Cause I left Seguine, he was just like a submarine.

Well in come the [s????? Peters??] fussin' and cryin'
Oughta see me when I reach up [l???? c????] [turn blind?]
They said that's another long gone from Kentucky
Long gone and I'm got away lucky
Cause you left Seguine, you just like a submarine.

I'm gonna sing this song ain't gonna sing no more....
Cause I'm leavin' San Antone, I declare I ain't comin' here no more

Well I don't play the dozens and neither the [ten],
Cause you keep on talkin' I'll ease you in
Well you keep on talkin' till it make me mad,
Gonna tell you about your [mothers] that your father had
Cause I don't play the dozens, I declare man and neither the [ten]

Andrew





-------------------- ?34 ?--------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:34:46 +1200
From: rivers
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

Frank inquired:

: Mark, can you take a peek in your copy of Blues & Gospel records? ?I know
: there's scads of Texas Alexander material - can you eyeball it to get an
: idea of how much material LHJ may have played on? ?Is it just a couple of
: tunes?

Glad to. There's a nice feature of B&G - the x-ref'd alternate indexes (i
know - indices). I looked him up in the index to accompanists and also the
main index by artist. Here it is:

Little Hat Jones as accompanist:

Backing Texas Alexander (only LHJ as accompanist session listed BTW):
Sat 15 June 1929, San Antonio TX

Double Crossing Blues, OK 8745
Ninety-Eight Degree Blues, OK 8705
Second take of Ninety-Eight Degree Blues originally unissued, reissued on
CDs: RnB CK47467, RnB(Eu) 468770-2, RnB(J) SRCS5678
Someday Baby Your Troubles Is Gonna Be Like Mine, OK 8771
Water Bound Blues, OK 8785
Awful Moaning Blues - Part 1, OK 8731
Awful Moaning Blues - Part 2, OK 8731
Gold Tooth Blues, OK 8705
Johnny Behren's Blues, OK 8745

Little Hat Jones' sessions as the primary artist:

Sat 15 June 1929, San Antonio, acc. own guitar

New Two Sixteen Blues, OK 8712
Two String Blues, OK8712

Fri 21 June 1929, San Antonio, acc. by unknown female vocal:

Rolled From Side To Side Blues, OK 8794
Hurry Blues, (may be mislabelled, prob should be Worried Blues), OK 8735
Little Hat Blues, OK 8794
Corpus Blues-1, OK 8735

Sat 14 June 1930, San Antonio

Kentucky Blues, OK 8815
Bye Bye Baby Blues, OK 8815
Cross The Water Blues, OK 8829
Cherry St. Blues, OK 8829

If you want any matrix numbers let me know.

Mark.

-------------------- ?35 ?--------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:38:49 -0400
From: frankie
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

Andrew writes from allthewayupthere in Canada:

>E chord with a high G, then F# then E in the high E,

I'm with you so far... ;-)

>then some goddawful chord ;-) for which I substitute
>an A with the same melodic riff of G, F#, E,

Hey! ?Ok, I admit that it's dissonant, but it's cool! ?Try this:

x02323

yup, that's a Bb on the third fret of the G string. ?Think of this change -
E7 -> Edim, except with the A in the bass, creating all that groovy tension.

>So that's E, A, E, C#, F#7, Am, E.

I find this easier to explain in TAB (apologies to those with delicate,
artistic sensibilities who find TAB existentially objectionable). ?Use a
fixed pitch font to view:


 ?E (add melody) ? ?C# ? ? ?** ? ? ? ?F#7 ? ? B7/A ?E
 ?1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & ? 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & ? 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
e-3---2-0---------|---4-----3-4-----|-0---0---0-2---0-
B-----------------|-----------------|---2---2------(0)
G-----------------|---4-4---3-4-4---|----(3)------2-1-
D-----------------|-----------------|-----4-------1---
A-2---2---2---2-3s|-4-------0-------|---------0-------
E-0---0---0-------|-----------------|-2---------------


 ?1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & ? 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & ? 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
e-------0---0---0-|-0---------------|-----------------
B-----------------|-----------------|-----------------
G-----4---3---2---|-1---------------|-----------------
D-----------------|-----------------|-----------------
A-2---5---4---3---|-2---------------|-----------------
E-0---------------|-0---------------|-----------------

** there wasn't really enough room to say this up there - this isn't really
a "chord change" so much as it is an example of parallel motion. ?The notes
on the 1st and 3rd strings are moved one fret down while the open A string
is struck. ?If I *had* to give it a chord name, I'd call it Edim/A, but I'll
swear I didn't mean it ;). ?The turnaround is likewise a familiar example of
parallel motion as Andrew pointed out.

So, the chords as I've trotted them out would look like:

E ? ? ?- 022100
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 24, 2003, 12:12:07 PM
The Little Hat thread continued:

-------------------- ?1 ?--------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:57:20 -0400
From: frankie
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

MarkH to the rescue:

>Little Hat Jones as accompanist:



Well, alrightee! ?These are all on:

Texas Alexander Vol. 2 ?Document Matchbox MBCD-2002

Arrgh! ?More stuff on the buy list (I'm an admitted LHJ junkie - I don't
perform much of it but I like to play it).

>If you want any matrix numbers let me know.

Whaddaya think this is? ?PWB? ?:-) ?Seriously, thanks for looking that up -
it's been on my mind to figure that out for some time. ?And thanks to Lwood
for bringing up LHJ - gave me a much needed respite from RGD!

f

-------------------- ?2 ?--------------------
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:08:13 -0400
From: uncle bud
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

Frank wrote from somewhere in the wilds of New Jersey:

>Andrew writes from allthewayupthere in Canada:
>
>>E chord with a high G, then F# then E in the high E,
>
>I'm with you so far... ;-)
>
>>then some goddawful chord ;-) for which I substitute
>>an A with the same melodic riff of G, F#, E,
>
>Hey! ?Ok, I admit that it's dissonant, but it's cool! ?Try this:
>
>x02323
>
>yup, that's a Bb on the third fret of the G string. ?Think of this change -
>E7 -> Edim, except with the A in the bass, creating all that groovy tension.

Yup, you're right, but you better play that chord with balls, boys (and a
little hat on yer head), or they'll think you're makin' a mistake :-). That
*is* the chord I was playing initially. But man... :-) At least if Frank
was in the audience he'd say, "Yeah, he's playin' that right."

 
Hey Frank what program do you use for tab?

>So, the chords as I've trotted them out would look like:
>
>E ? ? ?- 022100 Edim/A - x02323  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? during the verse
>E ? ? ?- 022100
>C# ? ? - x4x4x4
>Edim/A - x0x3x3
>F#7 ? ?- 2x4320 or 244320
>B7/A ? - x01202

Yup, and that Am with a high F# I noted is properly called a B7/A as Frank
points out, though easier for me to think of as Am for fingering.

>The thing about LHJ (and the rest of his solo stuff bears this out, IMO) is
>that he enjoys a lot of freaky dissonant stuff, propelled along by his
>insistent rhythmic pulse. ?Check out Cherry Street Blues for a totally manic
>example of this.

Little Hat sure goes off the deep end on that one. Great tune.

> Granted, this stuff is an acquired taste...

Yes, though in my previous message I made it sound like I was disappointed
with the material other than Kentucky Blues and Bye Bye Baby Blues, which
isn't the case at all. But he did get everything just right on those two
tunes...

Andrew
-------------------- ?9 ?--------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:56:28 +1200
From: rivers
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

Yer both nuts!

I think the V chord part is based around moving the E voicing up from first
to second position and linking descending chords to take it back down
through the V with a counterpoint effect on the bass, as in:

E 022100
E7 0x2434
C7something-or-other 3x2303
B7 x21202
E 022100

....then the turnaround as in Frank's tab. At least on the first time around.
Kinda like McGhee's Railroad Blues. Or?

Mark.
-------------------- ?13 ?--------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:09:00 EDT
From: slack
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones Lyrics

Hi Andrew, I've got a few stabs a the lyrics.

>Corrections, dissenting opinions welcome! What with the submarine line? The
>fourth verse is a problem too..

The submarine line is a metaphor for 'leaving or slipping away undetected'.

> Kentucky Blues (Little Hat Jones)
> ?Standard tuning key of E
> ?
> ?Well whilst we here tryin' a have our fun,
> ?The law jumped up and said "Nobody run"
> ?Well you know I'm long gone from Kentucky,
> ?Long gone, I'm got away lucky
> ?Cause I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.
> ?
> ?Well my woman poked her head from [???] the bed
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
'head out from under the bed' (I definately hear the 'out', the other is a
contextual guess)

> ?She said please don't let them kill Mr. Little Hat dead
> ?It's no use a-worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long
> ?Told her not to sing this worried song
 ? ? ^^^^
I hear 'tell' (there's a biggie)

> ?Cause I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.
> ?
> ?Well once I knowed a man they called him Austin Jack
> ?Stopped and put the bloodhounds right on my track
> ?Course the [blind] just could not catch my scent,
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ^^^^^^^
unintelligible, but I'd thing either bloods or bloodhounds.

> ?You know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
> ?Cause I left Seguine, he was just like a submarine.
> ?
> ?Well in come the [s????? Peters??] fussin' and cryin'

No help here.

> ?Oughta see me when I reach up [l???? c????] [turn blind?]

and really caught them blind.

> ?They said that's another long gone from Kentucky
> ?Long gone and I'm got away lucky
> ?Cause you left Seguine, you just like a submarine.
> ?
> ?I'm gonna sing this song ain't gonna sing no more....
> ?Cause I'm leavin' San Antone, I declare I ain't comin' here no more
> ?
> ?Well I don't play the dozens and neither the [ten],
> ?Cause you keep on talkin' I'll ease you in
> ?Well you keep on talkin' till it make me mad,
> ?Gonna tell you about your [mothers] that your father had
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?^^^^^^^^^
money

> ?Cause I don't play the dozens, I declare man and neither the [ten]
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I hear 'a man in need of a ten'

Cheers,
JohnD




-------------------- ?14 ?--------------------
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:08:58 EDT
From: slack
Subject: Re: [BWC] Little Hat Jones

Mark exclaims:
> Yer both nuts!

Yer all three nuts!

> ?I think the V chord part is based around moving the E voicing up from first
> ?to second position and linking descending chords to take it back down
> ?through the V with a counterpoint effect on the bass, as in:
 ?
But I gotta agree with Frank's tab - which took me awhile to decipher! (did
it by ear first before I checked the tab). ?

You know to me (being a simpleton), it would be much easier to just talk and
explain riffs using chord shapes. ?The beauty of country blues, it's all done
out of familiar chord shapes (well most). ?Wouldn't it be easier to explain
the V part by just saying that the whole thing is done out of ?a B7 shape
that starts by sliding up 2 frets on the bass string, followed by a one fret
down slide and return, descend one fret and lift pinky, B7, E. ?Likewise the
turnaround: a 2 finger E7 shape descending 4 frets. ?Or am I just being a
dork?

Andrew and then Frank writes:
>>then some goddawful chord ;-) for which I substitute
>>an A with the same melodic riff of G, F#, E,
>Hey! ?Ok, I admit that it's dissonant, but it's cool! ?Try this:
>x02323

But I disagree with Frank here. ?It is a cool diminished with good dissonance
off the A bass. ?But I don't hear it and it would be difficult to do the
little riff since you don;t have any fingers left or if you barre and have to
lift the whole form... you move to a differenet dissonace. ?I think the
dissonant chord is no chord, simply open strings.

We're having fun now! ?:)

Cheers,
JohnD
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Bill Roggensack on August 24, 2003, 03:19:46 PM
Rivers:

Wow - it's easy to forget how much good stuff there is in those archives. Your post made me recall more discussion about the rail line between San Antone and Houston, on which Seguine is situated.

Pity there isn't some easy way to remove the email addresses and make that archive a searchable document on this web site. But that woudl be way too much work, I suspect.

Cheers,
FronPage
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on August 24, 2003, 03:53:48 PM
Rivers,

Thanks for that trip down memory lane.  I'm making a note to myself, never ask set up questions like "or am I a dork?"  ;D

And I'll revise my opinion that the disonant chord is just open strings (ain't so) - I like Frank's "D chord" (still a simpleton though) moved up one string for the dissonant chord... the boy has got an ear!

Hoep you continue to cull the archive and stick in the good stuff.

Off to dig out LHJ document!

cheers,
slack
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on August 24, 2003, 07:35:09 PM
Rivers,

Thanks for that trip down memory lane.  I'm making a note to myself, never ask set up questions like "or am I a dork?"  ;D

No Comment!  ;D

The old weenie list comes back to haunt us. That Little Hat thread was a good'un. Did we ever settle on a definitive transcription?

uncle bud
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on August 24, 2003, 08:13:27 PM
Not that I remember and I don't have them in my lyric folder  - apparently, the only thing I saved was Franks tab post!

It would be nice if these were posted - I've been playing Kentucky blues this afternoon and almost at the point of working on the vocal!

cheers,
slack
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 25, 2003, 12:17:05 AM
I hope to find time to progressively compile a 'greatest hits'... it's not as simple as I initially thought since the meat of the more memorable threads is bound up with other chatter so you have to edit a bit.

The threads I remember as being particularly interesting:

The Texas railroad thread, I believe it segued into Funny Papa Smith's Honey Blues
Trans. of Luke Jordan's Churchbell Blues
Trans. of Geeshie Wylie's Last Kind Words
Discussion of whether the blues came down or went up the river first, Piedmont vs Delta thing

Any requests?
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on August 25, 2003, 11:43:17 AM
Listened to the Little Hat cd  Texas Blues Guitar (1929-1935) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000046FZ/qid=1061834599/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-1976620-0222306?v=glance&s=music) on Story of Blues. (For those unfamiliar with Little Hat, you can hear a bit following that amazon link.) That break on Cherry Street is demented. Too funny.  Lindy, I have a few very minor quibbles with your transcription (good ear!) I'll post later. Are you playing the break?

u.b.
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on August 26, 2003, 06:03:43 PM
Hey Lindy,

A few very minor differences of opinion below.

Yo, Weenies,

I'm having fun learning the Little Hat Jones licks that Ari taught us, but I sure need help with the lyrics to Cherry Street Blues. ?Here's what I've got so far . . . any help in filling the blanks will be much appreciated.

Cherry Street Blues

Train come to San Antone, man, and stop in the yard.
?? Just as sure as the ?? train come to San Antone, man, and stop in the yard.
It's gonna take two dollars and a quarter, I declare to ??___________??

I hear "I declare to send me a poster card" or post-a card

Quote
Mmmmmmm baby, tell me what's on your mind.
Mmmmmmm baby, tell me what's on your mind.
??________________??
I agree with waxwing about this verse.

Quote
Gonna move to the bottom, camp out on the ground.
I'm gonna move to the bottom, man, and camp out on the ground.
Every morning I call my woman just to hear my echo sound.
First line also begins "I'm gonna move..."

Quote
I got a woman in San Antone, I declare that is sweet to me.
I got a woman in San Antone, man, really sweet to me.
Most of you people don't know she's here, but she lives on Cherry Street.
I've got a woman in San Antone, I declare's really sweet to me
I've got a woman in San Antone, man, really sweet to me...

Quote
Mmmmmmmm, oh lawd lawdy lawd.
Mmmmmmmm, oh lawd lawdy lawd.
??_______________?? to be my brother-in-law.

Mmmmmmmm, lawd lawd lawdy lawd.
Mmmmmmmm, lawd lawd lawdy lawd.

The last line does sound like what waxwing transcribed from Mcleod.

Quote
You men got these women, you got to treat them nice and kind.
You men got these sweet women, how come you don't be nice and kind?
Cause don't you know Little Hat got something that'll change your sweet woman's mind.

Now you men got these women, ah treat them nice and kind.
Say you men got these sweet women, how come you don't be nice and kind?
Cause don't you know Little Hat got something it'll change your sweet woman's mind

Quote
Mmmmmmmm, know you ain't gonna think it's so.
Well I'm gonna tell you men something, I know you ain't gonna think it's so.
(He doesn't sing a response line here -- anyone want to guess what Little Hat was gonna say that us men wouldn't think it's so?)

2nd line sounds like "Well I'll tell you men something, know you ain't gonna think it's so."

uncle bud
Title: Re:Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: lindy on August 26, 2003, 09:42:08 PM

UB--

Thanks for the feedback . . . I'll take another listen before I hit the hay tonight and see what my ears tell me this time . . . between you, me, Waxwing and McLeod, something close to the truth oughta come out . . . but who knows what's gonna come out of my mouth once I start singing it out loud, know what I mean?

> That break on Cherry Street is demented. Too funny.  Lindy, I have a
> few very minor quibbles with your transcription (good ear!) I'll post
> later. Are you playing the break?

I take it that you're talking about the little boogie-woogie style break that LHJ did on his recording of Cherry Street.  Man, that one's so demented that I'm just gonna put it on the back burner for a while.  Instead, I'll work on that little break that Ari showed us in class, pinching the G and high E strings at the 12th fret, down to the 9th fret, and so on down the neck.  That break is from Little Hat Blues, but I figure I'll just mix-and-match licks and breaks for now, and save that Cherry Street break for later.

Next on my agenda: Jimmy Bell, great little groove . . .

Lindy
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 22, 2004, 01:21:47 PM
Re: Kentucky Blues by Little Hat Jones.

I hear the last part of most verses not as "...just like a submarine" but as "...just like a summer rain". Much more country sounding.

let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on January 23, 2004, 08:22:10 AM
Hi Pyro,

Quote
I hear the last part of most verses not as "...just like a submarine" but as "...just like a summer rain". Much more country sounding.

let me know what you think.

I think that "summer rain" sounds very poetic - but I still hear him saying submarine. 

cheers,
JohnD
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Johnm on January 23, 2004, 08:54:41 AM
Hi all,
Not that it necessarily pertains in the Little Hat lyric, but there is precedence for the mention of submarines in Country Blues lyrics, as odd as it may seem.  I think Lemon said something like,
Got a mail train, baby, gonna get me a submarine (2)
Gonna get that Kaiser, and we'll be seldom seen.
All best,
John
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 24, 2004, 05:30:41 PM
Well, I went back to my old transcription of Kentucky Blues and using the ideas I've seen on this board, I've tried to fixed it. Here's how it sounds to me.

I got my version off an old 33 rpm record "Tex-Arkana-Louisiana Country" Yazoo L 1004

Kentucky Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

solo acoustic guitar
Standard tuning, E position
Pitched at F.

Introduction (instrumental)

(1) Instrumental

(2)Well, whilst we here tryin' 'a have our fun
S'pose the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
Well you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus I gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine

(3) Well my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
She said "Please don't let 'em kill me, Mr. Little Hat, dead"
I said "No use to worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long"
Told her not to sing this worried song
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

(4) I once'd to know the man they call him Austin Jack
Stopped and put the bloodhounds righ on my track
Course the blindest could not catch my scent
Do you know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
'Cus I left Seguine, people I's just like a submarine.

(5) Instrumental

(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I reached up and really caught them blinds
They said that's another long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus you left Seguine, you's just like a submarine

(7) Instrumental

(8) I'm gonna sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare ain't comin' here no more

(9) Well I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cus she keep on talkin' I'll ease ya in
Well you keep on talkin' 'till you make me mad
Well I tell you 'bout the money that your father had
'Cus I don't play the dozen, I declare, man, and neither the ten

(10) Instrumental

Outro

I'm still not sure about submarine vs summer rain.

I'd love to hear you comments.

Alex

Edited to reflect comments below
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on January 25, 2004, 09:48:56 AM
Hi Alex,

The lyrics of this song are tough (like many others) and as a group we may never agree -  which is all part of the fun of trying to decipher tough to hear lyrics.   

I think your transcritpion is fine and don't let us necessarily talk you out of "summer rain" - there are lots of examples of these guys borrowing verses and then changing them to suit themselves.  I think the only thing I would encourage you to do, this is my personal approach, is to have the lyrics make sense.  Most often they were telling a story and the story makes perfect sense in the context and the language of the times.  (eg it helps to be familiar with southern dialect and accents) For example this verse:

6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I'm rich, I really col' turn blind

Does not make sense to me, seems forced and has some awkward usage and construction.

In any case, it's a great tune, have fun with it!

cheers,
JOhnD
Title: More Blues Submarines
Post by: Rivers on February 07, 2004, 01:45:57 PM
Barbecue Bob: "I'm gonna buy me a gun, a plane and a submarine, gonna kill everybody that ever treated me mean", Ease It To Me Blues
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 11, 2004, 02:43:39 PM
Hi all:


6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I'm rich, I really col' turn blind


I assume that the "Santa Fe" refers to the railroad train of the same name, approaching LHJ and passing him at high speed (yon' being short for yonder).

I always assumed that "col' turn blind" was some sort of idiomatic expression.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: frankie on February 11, 2004, 03:53:40 PM
(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I'm rich, I really col' turn blind

Pretty sure I hear:

Well, in come the Santa Fe, just passed me and flying
Ought to see me when I reach'd up and really caught them blinds
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on February 11, 2004, 04:15:11 PM
That's making more sense.  I always think of "blinds" in a generic sense to mean trains - but that probably is not right.  Is there a more specific meaning for "blinds"?  (I don't have a good dictionary handy, anyone have one handy?)

cheers,
slack
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: frankie on February 11, 2004, 05:42:32 PM
I always think of "blinds" in a generic sense to mean trains - but that probably is not right.? Is there a more specific meaning for "blinds"?? (I don't have a good dictionary handy, anyone have one handy?)

I think "blinds" referes to a particular type of railroad car, but maybe not trains in general.? I interpreted the lyric as I heard it to describe LHJ standing by the tracks as the SF goes by - then he (with a certain bravado, I suppose) grabs hold of the moving train and climbs on board.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on February 11, 2004, 06:03:29 PM
I think yur right - a kind of rail car.? I'm really diapointed in my big fat Websters 3rd New International Dictionary Unabridrged :) hasn't a clue what 'ridin' the blinds' is.? However!? I did find a cool story that puts it into context.? Do you think we could talk Peter and Phil into bringing these guys to PT?? I'd like to hear Lonnies harmonica.

They Rode the Blinds in Hard Times (http://www.rootsweb.com/~arwhite/wchs/They_Rode_The_Rails_In_Hard_Times.html)

cheers,
slack
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 14, 2004, 11:33:11 AM
Hi All:

This "defination" of riding the blinds comes from Hobo Terminology (www.angelfire.com/folk/famoustramp/terminology.html (http://www.angelfire.com/folk/famoustramp/terminology.html)

Riding the blinds -To ride a train by swinging onto the vestibule at the front end of the baggage car, usually just behind the engine tender. This practice was deceptively dangerous; if the train "slacked off" while you were trying to squeeze through to the vestibule, the cars would come together and crush you in an instant.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on February 14, 2004, 11:43:03 AM
Cool... thanks Alex!
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 14, 2004, 12:23:29 PM
I'll add the definition of blinds (from the same source).

Blinds - False door at end of baggage car. Hobo ridingplace.

alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on June 01, 2004, 08:31:24 AM
Hi all:

I've lately become more interested in LHJ's "Rollin' From Side to Side" and want to finish off the verses. One chord has me slightly stumped. In the fifth bar he goes to the IV chord (C), but in the sixth bar he uses a chord which has an A# in the bass. I think the chord is close to

First: 3rd fret
Second: 2nd fret
Third: third fret
Fourth: 1st fret
Fifth: 1st fret
Sixth: not played

Any ideas? Sorry I don't have an mp3 to post as my only copy of this tune is on Yahoo vinyl.

Editted to add: .mp3 is now posted two posts below this one.

Thanks,
Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Bill Roggensack on June 01, 2004, 03:41:36 PM
Quote
I assume that the "Santa Fe" refers to the railroad train of the same name, approaching LHJ and passing him at high speed (yon' being short for yonder).
Quote

The Santa Fe Railroad (now owned by Burlington Northern) runs in a generally easterly direction from San Antonio (sic. San 'Antone') to Houston and Galveston, arching north of I10. I believe Seguin, located a short distance east of San Antonio, was once on a branch line - probably of the Southern Pacific railway. At present, the nearest the Santa Fe main line runs is along a more northerly route through Ajax, Lockhart, Smithville, La Grange, and Sealy. Incidentally, north from Sealy, you will find Navasota. I would guess that Little Hat's reference to "submarine" is in the context of a stealthy departure from Seguin, where his love life was abruptly interrupted by Austin Jack - probably a "RR dick" or "bull".

Here's a photo of the depot in Seguin, circa 1910.
http://www.texasescapes.com/TOWNS/Seguin_Texas/Seguin_Texas.htm
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: frankie on December 09, 2004, 09:15:45 PM
I think the chord is close to

First: 3rd fret
Second: 2nd fret
Third: third fret
Fourth: 1st fret
Fifth: 1st fret
Sixth: not played

The chord you're describing is an Eflat7 (Bflat in the bass).? I'd have to listen to the tune to see if that's exactly what he's playing, but it certainly fits within the contours of the tune as I remember it.? That chord (w/o the Bflat bass) shows up in Rev. Davis' Lord Search My Heart and (with the open third string instead of the third fret/third string) in Blind Blake's That'll Never Happen No More.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on December 15, 2004, 08:35:14 PM
Hi all:

Thanks Ramblin' Frank for the insight on the chord.

I'd like to give a go to figure out the words to "Rolled fromSide to Side Blues" by Little Hat Jones. S. Grossman does TAB out part of the song in this "Texas Blues Guitar" but tactfully omits to provide a transcription of the first verse. And I don't agree with some of his other ideas. Let's see what Weenies can do.

Rolled From Side to Side Blues
Little Hat Jones
1929

Standard tuning, G position.

Intro (double time)

(1) Mr Fairlay, Mr. Fairlay ??? nancy (?) women fo' ???? (x2)
I done tried to get my sweet woman like Mr. Failay got to go.

(2) Mmmmm, baby don't you think I know. (x2)
??? woman make a man love her, people,  and shake hands and go

(3) ??? Never take a woman, I'm speakin' 'bout to be your friend (x2)
Aww, she get all your money then look what a hole your in

(4) Instrumental break (16 bars)

(5) I went to bed last night, people, rolled from side to side (x2)
I didn't have no blues honey, things wern't goin' right.

(6) When you catch me sleepin', baby don't you think I'm drunk (???) (x2)
I got one eye on my pistol, the other on you trunk (???)

(7) Instrumental break (16 bars)

(8)Tell me sweet baby, honey what's on your mind (x2)
You keep a poor man troubled, really lookin' downhearted all the time

Thanks in advance,
Alex


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Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: waxwing on December 16, 2004, 10:19:47 AM
Hey Alex,
I'll give it a shot. Got it loaded into Transcribe! so's I can slow it down a bit.

Rolled From Side to Side Blues
Little Hat Jones
1929

Key of G

Intro (double time)

(1) Mr Faraday, Mr. Faraday s'there (nasty)(?) women fo' sale (x2)
I done tryin' t' get my sweet woman like Mr. Faraday got a girl

(2) Mmmmm, baby don't you think I know (x2)
Pretty woman make a man love her, people, and shake hands and go

(3) Aww, never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
I said man, don'never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
Aww, she get all your money then look what a hole your in

(4) Instrumental break (16 bars)

(5) I went to bed last night, people, rolled from side to side (x2)
I didn't have no blues honey, damnit, things weren't goin' right.

(6) When you catch me sleepin', baby don't you think I'm drunk (x2)
I've a got one eye on my pistol, keep the other one on your trunk

(7) Instrumental break (16 bars)

(8)Tell me sweet baby, aww, what's on your mind
I said tell me sweet baby, honey, what's on your mind
You keep a poor man troubled, really lookin' downhearted all the time


Yeah, slowed down it sounds like "Mr Faraday".?The only question I really have is "nasty" which works in the line great but the "s" sound is barely there, sorta like "naaaaaastteh" or "naaaaaasttuh" with not much of a "y" on the end either. Oh well, it makes plenty of sense from the perspective of the rest of the song.

Key of G, hunh? Cool, I may have to look at this one some time, I could use more experience with G. Nice that it goes to a 16 bar break. Thanks for posting it.
All for now.
Barbecue John C.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 03, 2005, 10:35:54 AM
Hi all:

I recently had the chance to listen to LH Jones Kentucky Blues a lot while driving through the mountains over the holidays. I propose a few small changes to the lyrics, which I have noted in bold below.

BTW, thanks a lot Barbeque John, for your work on Rolled From Side to Side

Kentucky Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

solo acoustic guitar
Standard tuning, E position, pitched at F.

Introduction (instrumental)

(1) Instrumental

(2)Well, whilst we here tryin' 'a have our fun
S'pose the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
Well you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus I gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine

(3) Well my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
She said "Please don't let 'em kill (deleted me)Mr. Little Hat dead"
I said "No use to worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long"
Told her not to sing this worried song
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

(4) I once'd to know the man they call him Austin Jack
Stopped and put the bloodhounds righ on my track
Course the blindest could not catch my scent
Do you know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
'Cus I left Seguine, people I's just like a submarine.

(5) Instrumental

(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I reached up and really caught them blinds
They said "That's another long gone, from Kentucky"
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus you left Seguine, you's just like a submarine

(7) Instrumental

( I'm gonna sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare ain't comin' here no more

(9) Well I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cus she keep on talkin' I'll ease ya in
Well you keep on talkin' 'till you make me mad
Well I tell you 'bout the mother that your father had
'Cus I don't play the dozen, I declare, man, and neither the ten

(10) Instrumental

Outro

A note in the Martin Scorcese book accompanying his series (which I recieved for Christmas along with Guy Davis's latest CD) reminded me about the word game Dirty Dozens, about insulting anothers relatives, to which I think Verse 9 refers.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 11, 2005, 03:16:14 PM
Hi all:

Just a quick jump back to Rolled From Side to Side Blues. I just don't hear some of Barbeque John's stuff in the first line(although the rest of his work is great and he's probably right). Nasty sounds like nancy (which makes no sense) and the last word -sale- I hear as stone. The st sound at the beginning is strong to me.

One other comment I would add "on" between "goin'" and "right" in Verse 5.

Just a note: S. Grossman had the rhyming pair in Verse 6 as thrown and throne

Any other ideas? Anyone else what to take a shot?

Alex

PS: When I listen to the 13th bar of the break I think I hear the sound of doubled strings. Could LHJ be playing a 12 string, poss. with single coarses on the bass in this tune?

A.
Title: Little Hat Jones Lyrics - Hurry Blues
Post by: GhostRider on December 18, 2006, 09:17:25 AM
Howdy:

I thought I'd give this tune a try. It shares many melodic elements with "Rolled From Side to Side Blues", which is why I'd paid it little attention in the past. However last week I noticed that it's in the Key of C, not G like "Rolled..."

The bass is monotonic, and the 6th bar untilizes the bVI chord (in this case Ab). The break is pretty frenetic, as LHJ takes the C shape up and down the neck (up to the 11th fret in spots).

The phrase "Hurry Blues" appears nowhere in the tune. The closest is "worried blues", sung in the 4th verse. Either the record comany misheard the lyric or there were already copyrighted "Worried Blues", so they had to find another title.

I can't decifer the lyrics at the very end of the tune, hope Weenies can help.

Hurry Blues
Little Hat Jones
June 21, 1929

Standard tuning, C position.

1) Intro verse

2) I know there's eagles on the dollar, other side "In God We Trust" (x2)
Well, a woman loves a man but I know dis dollar's first

3) Instrumental verse

4) (I said) Have you ever loved a woman (man, one) that didn't love you (x2)
Then you have the worried blues, to bother you the whole night through.

5) Instrumental verse

6) (Well) I'm going sweet baby, (honey, aw) don't you want to go (x2)
I'm aced out of town but I'm hotter 'n I ever been before.

7) Lead break (extended)

Eight) Instrumental verse

9) Some time you hear me singin' "Nearer Are My God to Thee" (x2)
And again you hear me singing, sweet land of blue cheese.

Outro

This outro is weird, it's like someone pulled out the electric chord. Stumbling!

Alex

Note: edited to reflect BJ's and dingwall's comments below.

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Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: waxwing on December 18, 2006, 10:05:06 AM
I think the last line of verse 6 is:

I'm aced out of town but I'm hotter 'n I ever been before

"Than I ever" run together sounding like 'nahever.

Can't make heads nor tails out of the last phrase, but at 3:09 I get the feeling LHJ was startled by whoever was motioning to him to wrap it up.

All for now.
John C.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones Lyrics - Hurry Blues
Post by: Bunker Hill on December 18, 2006, 11:17:02 AM
The phrase "Hurry Blues" appears nowhere in the tune. The closest is "worried blues", sung in the 4th verse. Either the record comany misheard the lyric...
A mishearing of "worried" was one of the suggestions made in Blues Unlimited 55 (July 1968) when reviewing Yazoo's Buddy Boy Hawkins & His Buddies compilation, on which it was included. The other suggestion was more tongue in cheek concerning his increasing speed to finish the song.  ;D
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: tenderfoot84 on December 20, 2006, 04:01:30 AM
i can't listen to "rolled from side to side" right now but i always sing it as

mr freddie, mr freddie's a man you women-folks love
mr freddie, mr freddie's a man you women-folks love
lord i'm trying to get a sweet woman like mr freddie got his girls

oh baby don't you think i know
oh baby don't you think i know
that a woman'll make a man love her, and keep her and shake hands and go [i admit this sounds really awkward]

man don't ever take no woman i'm speaking about to be your friend
i said man don't ever take no woman i'm speaking about to be your friend
cos she'll get all your money then look what a hole you're in

if you catch me sleeping baby don't you think i'm drunk
if you catch me sleeping baby don't you think i'm drunk
i got one hand on ma pistol and one eye on your trunk

oh baby honey what's on your mind
oh baby honey what's on your mind
you keep a poor man worried really looking down-hearted all the time.

over the verses i play a melody in an alternating bass to start, going from G to C and back, then a walk up the 5th string i think (don't have my guitar right now) and a little melody on the high strings around a d chord.

this works for me but i've not really compared it too closely to the tune.
Title: Corpus Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on January 05, 2007, 11:24:17 AM
Hi:

I was foolin' around with  this one last night and thought I'd try to do the lyrics.

LHJ playsd this one in E, standard tuning. He uses a variation of the "Kentucky Blues" accompanyment.

In the first four bars he does one bar of E (0xx454), one bar of Eb7 (x0x323), one bar of E (0xx454) and one bar of E7 (0xx434).

In bars 5-8 (IV, A section), he does one bar of A (x0x320) (thanks Johnm), often doing a little run on the 1st string, 3 fret, 2 fret, open. He can do this by fingering the chord with the index and ring fingers, leaving the pinky and middle fingers to fret the 3rd and second frets respectively, during this run.. In the 6th bar he does a little single string run or repeats the 5th bar. In bar 7 he moves a E shape down from the 5th fret (x554x0) a semi-tone each beat thumping on the 5 string and plucking the 1 string as a pedal tone. In the 8 bar he plays an first position E.


In bars 9-12 he does his trademark E blues sequence. In bar 9 he plays the "Charley Patton" chord (x43404) for 4 beats. In 10 he plays 2 beats of sort of an F# (2x4320), then 2 beats of B7 (x21200 then x21202). In bar 11 he plays the first position E, then the "moving the E shape down" run ending at E on the first beat of Bar 12, finishing the bar there.

All this should be prefaced with ... I think.  Especially in the bass, LHJ is tricky. He loves dissonence.

If any of you have comments, corrections on any of this, please help!

In Verse 6, an instrumental verse, LHJ is offered encouragement by a female with a good voice. Does anyone know whom this is? Were there any females recording in the same session as "Corpus Blues" was recorded?

BTW, I assume the Corpus in the title refers to the Texas town of Corpus Christi.

Corpus Blues
Little Hat Jones
June 1929

Standard tuning, E position.


Instrumental introduction
(last 4 bars of accompanyment, played twice, double time)

1) (I said) I 'member one time people, aw (it) is in 19 and 24 (x2)
I's in hell in that year that I never wanta see no more.

2) I 'member one time, aw it is in 1921 (x2)
(???) been I start ta watch my sweet woman (???) from sun to sun.

3) I thought that my (woman, baby) aw, was treatin' me right (x2)
But, aw, when I went down to Corpus we didn't do nothin' but fuss and fight.

4) (And) I never had nothin' (mmm, aw turnout) to hurt me so. (x2)
Aw, when I was talkin' to my baby that mornin' and she told me that I shouldn't (???) no more.

5) Mmmmm, baby what's on your mind (x2)
Aww, you wanta be mean to me woman, give me a good word all the time.

6)Instrumental verse
Spoken (woman): Aw, play that thing, Little Hat, that's the talk of the town!
Spoken (LHJ): I cain't pick it, I'm just learnin', aw but I will go ahead on it soon.

7) Boogie instrumental verse and End

If he was "just learnin'" what was he like when he had it down!

MP3 attached. I hope someone(s) can help with the bits I can't get.

I can get more women than a passanger train can haul,
Alex
Note: edited to reflect some of phawk's comments below


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Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: phhawk on January 05, 2007, 07:46:32 PM
Hello Ghost Rider, It seems to me that I read somewhere that the woman who speaks on this record was Ruth Willis who also recorded with Willie McTell, also known as Ruth Day. I actually have a choice copy of this record and I listened to it to try to get the lyrics, so here is what I got, along with what you already have.

1. I 'member one time people, aw it was in 19 & 21 2X
 
    I's in (hell?) that year that I never wanta see no more

2. I 'member one time, aw it is in 1921 2X

    They said I start to watch my sweet woman (cheat'n?) from sun to sun                    (might mean from son to son?).

3. I thought that my woman baby was treat'n me right 2X

    But aw, when I went down to Corpus, we didn't do nothin' but fuss and
    fight.

4. And I never had nothing, mmm aw to hurt me so 2X
   
   Aw, when I was talking to my baby that mornin' and she told me that I
   (couldn't see her) no more 

5. mmmm baby what's on your mind 2X
   
    Aw, you wanta be mean to me woman, (won't) give me a good (word) all
    time


In the last verse the word won't is almost more implied than said. And I get the meaning of that phrase to say (you won't say anything good about me, anytime).

Anyway, that's what I come up with.

Regards, Phil
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Bunker Hill on January 05, 2007, 11:53:01 PM
Hello Ghost Rider, It seems to me that I read somewhere that the woman who speaks on this record was Ruth Willis who also recorded with Willie McTell, also known as Ruth Day.
I'll have to double check this but when Morris Craig and Thomas Young interviewed Jones in 1962 I think he said he recalled taking a lady friend along to one of the sessions. His recordings were made by an Okeh mobile "field unit" in San Antonio, Texas so I guess rather unlikely that they'd have brought along Wiilis or Day for a spoken interjection. But stranger things have happened.... :)
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: phhawk on January 06, 2007, 05:48:24 AM
BH, You're probably right. After I posted that last night, I noticed that the recordings were made in San Antonio and it seems Willis was out of Atlanta. For some reason I thought  that I'd read that it was Willis, but checking Dixon & Godrich, the person is listed as unidentified.

Regards, Phil
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dj on January 06, 2007, 01:17:06 PM
The only Black artists recorded by Okeh on the June 1929 field trip to San Antonio were Texas Alexander, Little Hat Jones, and Troy Floyd And His Shadowland Orchestra.  So it's likely that the female voice on Corpus Blues was a non-musician, a "friend of the band" as they say.
   
Title: Re: Corpus Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on January 07, 2007, 12:14:25 PM
Howdy:

Thanks, phawk, for your good work on this one.

2) I 'member one time, aw  it is in 1921 (x2)
(???) been I start ta watch my sweet woman (???) from sun to sun.

The first (???) I can't get.
The second (???) of this verse sounds, after repeated listinings to be "beatball". Could this be some work(?) activity?


4) (And) I never had nothin' (mmm, aw turnout) to hurt me so. (x2)
Aw, when I was talkin' to my baby that mornin' and she told me that I shouldn't (???) no more.

In this verse I think he says "turnout", which he pronounces "turmont"
In the (???) I hear "be". Short for "be her man"?

Anyone else want to take a crack?

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on January 12, 2007, 01:12:24 AM
Here's my take on the "Corpus Blues" words, see what you think.

I remember one time people, oh it was in 19 and 24.
I say I remember one time people, oh it's in 19 and 24
Somethin' happened that year that I never want to see no more.

I 'member one time, ahh it is in 1921
I 'member one time, ahh it is in 19 and 21
It's then I started to watch my sweet woman, people from sun to sun.

I thought that my woman, ahh would treat me right
I thought that my baby, ohh was treating me right
But oh when I went down to Corpus we didn't do nothing but fuss and fight.

And I never had nothin', mmm to hurt me so
I never had nothin', aw to mind to hurt me so*
Aw, when I was talkin' to my babe that mornin' and she told me that I couldn't do no more.

Mmmmm, baby what's on your mind?
Mmmmm, baby what's on your mind?
Aw, you want to be mean to me, and won't give me a good word all the time.**

Woman: Oh, play that thing, Little Hat, that's the talk of the town.
Little Hat: I can't pick it, I'm just learnin' how but I will go 'head on and boot it.

*I think he means here he can't remember anything so bad, meaning "to my mind to hurt me so"
** What sounds like the word "woman" here is him singing "and won't" almost as one word.

Chris
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 12, 2007, 09:32:46 AM
Banjochris:

Here's my take on the "Corpus Blues" words, see what you think.

I think (as in the Guiness commercial)-brilliant!-, you made so great calls which I never came close to, but are right on the money.

Verse 1: Your call on the third line is perfect.

Verse 2: third line. I still hear "b'ball" instead of "people", but people makes more sense.

Verse 4: third line, third last word. I still hear "be" not "do", minor point.

Verse 5: third line: Your hearing of this is outstanding, something I wouldn't have got in a million years, but obvious when you see it in print.

LHJ spoken aside: I don't hear the "it" at the very end.

I've stolen banjochris's version and, with minor mods made it the version so far.

Corpus Blues
Little Hat Jones
June, 1929

Standard tuning, E position.

1) I r?member one time people, aw it is in 19 and 24.
I say I 'member one time people, oh it's in 19 and 24
Somethin' happened that year that I never wanna see no more.

2) I 'member one time, ahh it is in 1921
I 'member one time, ahh it is in 19 and 21
It's then I started to watch my sweet woman, people from sun to sun.

3) I thought that my woman, aw was treatin? me right
I thought that my baby, aw was treating me right
But aw when I went down to Corpus we didn't do nothing but fuss and fight.

4) And I never had nothin', mmm to hurt me so
I never had nothin', aw turnout to hurt me so
Aw, when I was talkin' to my babe that mornin' and she told me that I couldn't be no more.

5) Mmmmm, baby what's on your mind?
Mmmmm, baby what's on your mind?
Aw, you want to be mean to me and won't, gimme a good word all the time.

6) Instrumental verse

Spoken :(woman) Aw, play that thing, Little Hat, that's the talk of the town.
(Little Hat Jones) I can't pick it, I'm just learnin', aw but I will go 'head on and boot.

7) Boogie instrumental verse and end.

Thanks again,
Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: tenderfoot84 on February 06, 2007, 04:37:24 AM
hi there,

has anyone put down the line in kentucky blues "course the bloodhounds just could not catch my scent".

the latest quote i can see on this thread is "course the blindest", which does make some sense, but i always hear bloodhound said again.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 06, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
Hey 'Foot:

I'll check this out tonight, and maybe post the Kentucky Blue MP3 tomorrow.

I suppose we should finish off the LHJ lyrics one of these days.

Alex
Title: Kentucky Blues - Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on February 07, 2007, 09:06:38 AM
Here's the MP3 for LHJ Kentucky Blues and the latest version of the lyrics. See what you all think.

Alex

Kentucky Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

solo acoustic guitar
E position, pitched at F


Introduction (instrumental)

(1) Instrumental

(2) Well, whilst we here tryin' 'a have our fun, s'pose the law jump up and said "Nobody run!"
Well you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky, long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus I gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine

(3) Well my woman poked her head out from way under the bed. She said "Please don't let 'em kill Mr. Little Hat dead"
I said "No use to worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long"
Told her not to sing this worried song
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

(4) I once'd to know the man they call him Austin Jack
Stop and put the bloodhounds right on my track
Course the blindest could not catch my scent
Do you know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
'Cus I left Seguine, people I's just like a submarine.

(5) Instrumental

(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just passed me and flyin'
Oughta see me when I reach up and really caught them blinds
They said "There's another long gone, from Kentucky"
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus you left Seguine, you's just like a submarine

(7) Instrumental

Eight) I'm gonna sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare ain't comin' here no more

(9) Well I don't play the dozen and neither the ten.
'Cus she keep on talkin' I'll ease ya in.
Well you keep on talkin' 'till you make me mad.
Well I tell you 'bout the mother that your father had.
'Cus I don't play the dozen, I declare, man, and neither the ten.

(10) Instrumental

Outro
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 07, 2007, 09:24:58 AM
hi there,

has anyone put down the line in kentucky blues "course the bloodhounds just could not catch my scent".

the latest quote i can see on this thread is "course the blindest", which does make some sense, but i always hear bloodhound said again.

Just relistened to this and I think you could be right. I'll leave it open for a bit and see what others think.

Nice catch,
Alex
Title: New Two sixteen Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on February 09, 2007, 12:19:28 PM
Hi:

"New Two Sixteen Blues" was the first tune LHJ recorded in his first session in San Antonio, Texas , June 15, 1929. I have a (ratty) box of pre-1941 Gibson Mona-steel guitar strings for the first person who can explain what the heck the title refers to.

This song uses virtually the identical acompanyment as "Corpus Blues" in E position, standard tuning.

New Two Sixteen Blues
Little Hat Jones
1929

E position, standard tuning.

Introduction

1) I got a woman in Dallas, got one in San Antone too.
I got a woman in Dallas, lived in one in San Antone too.
I figure this one in San Antone don?t know what this poor girl in Dallas gonna do.

2) She got nine gold teeth people, all that wavy hair.
That woman got nine gold teeth in, all that wavy hair.
And if you ever come to San Antone you?re gonna find my sweet woman there.

3) I never mistreat my (baby, woman), aw (when, said)  I do wrong myself. (x2)
Aww, if I be mean to my woman, she?ll really quit and take someone else.

4) Mmm baby (aw, baby) don?t you think I know. (x2)
That a woman c?n make a man love her, people, and shake hands and go.

5) I went to bed last night (and, listen baby) I rolled from side to side. (x2)
And I didn?t have no blues really but things wasn?t going on right.

6) Mmm, babe what?s on your mind?
Mmm, girl what?s on a roll?
Aw will you tell be baby why you wanna shake hands and go.

7) I want someone to tell me, aw what "Lord have mercy" mean (x2)
Who if it means anything, well lord have mercy on me.

Eight) (I say) I?m going back to Dallas, (aw, baby) don?t you want to go? (x2)
Honey, I gonna stop in a town I believe that I have never been before.

Outro

Notes: "Paris" in verse 1 is pronounced "Baris", but I googled and there is no Baris, Texas

In the second line of Verse 2 I hear...nine gold teeth pin, ... which makes no sense.

I'm a little unsure of the second line of Verse 6

The third line of Verse 7 is awkward.

I've added an .mp3 of the tune so any of you can see if you can check some of these doubtful bits.

Thanks,
Alex

Note: edited to reflect banjochris's corrections below.


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Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on February 09, 2007, 02:03:32 PM
Don't know what the title means, but I think can help on a couple of the verses:

In the third line of the first verse he's saying "Dallas" again, not "Baris" or "Paris"

Second line of the second verse he's saying "babe" not "pin"

In the sixth verse, the way he sings it he obviously has made a mistake with what he wants to be singing, and tries to take it back to repeating verse four, and gets tangled up. I think he's trying to say "don't you think I know" again in that second line but getting mixed up.

The last line of the seventh verse you have right, and it makes sense because the first and second lines are actually "I want someone to tell me, aw what 'Lord have mercy' means"
Chris
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 10, 2007, 02:02:01 PM
bc:

Thanks for your great help. I agree completely with the "Dallas in Verse 1 and "means" (I actually hear "mean", small point) in Verse 7.

I don't hear "babe" in Verse 3, even after trying to. Still hear "pin". I'll try again with fresh ears tomorrow.

Thanks again,
Alex

Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on February 10, 2007, 04:32:30 PM
Alex, going back and listening to that second verse again I think it's more likely he's saying "teeth and", and cutting off the "d" at the end of "and", and his nasal vowels make it sound like "in" -- I don't hear a "p" sound there, though. See what you think.
Chris
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 11, 2007, 02:00:22 PM
Alex, going back and listening to that second verse again I think it's more likely he's saying "teeth and", and cutting off the "d" at the end of "and", and his nasal vowels make it sound like "in" -- I don't hear a "p" sound there, though. See what you think.
Chris

Chris:
yes, I now hear "in". But it is poss. just in, not a corruption of "and".

"She got nine gold teeth in, all that way hair" in, as in, in her mouth.

I guess when one does this tune, just sing "in" and let the audience decide.

Alex
Title: Little Hat Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on February 13, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
Howdy:

Slow day at work today, so I thought I'd figure out the lyrics to another one of LHJ's pieces, Little Hat Blues. Another titular enigma, the song is mostly about trains and leaving women (aren't they all).

Anyway LHJ plays this one in E position, again the same accompaniment as Corpus Blues and New Two Sixteen Blues. Jones takes some liberties with the bar structure. It's a 12 bar blues but the intro, outro and one of the instrumental breaks are 8 bars.

He also does an unusual, spoken, sermon-like admonition at the end

Little Hat Blues
1929

E position, standard tuning

Instrumental introduction (8 bars)

1) (Well, I said) the train passed by, aw (had, with) my sweet (baby, woman) inside (x2)
And when I looked up and seen her, couldn?t help but hang my head and cry.

2) I said mmmm, wonder what?s going to become of me?
Mmmm, look at my baby wavin? her hand.
I guess I'll have to get me another woman, ?cus she's gone back to her man.

3) Believe I'll beat the train to the track son, aw I'm gonna take my stand.
Peoples, I'll beat the train to the track honey, aw I'm gonna stand right here.
Aw I don't want to kill nobody but that fireman and engineer.

4) She gets her water at Fairmen (???), coal at th' 'bama mine. (x2)
And I would let everybody ride, people, b' you know the train ain't mine.

5) I said ?Good morning conductor, aw (please) let a broke man ride". (x2)
All?s I wanna see my sick woman one more time before she die.

6) Instrumental verse

7) Instrumental verse (8 bars)

Eight) Some time you hear me singin? ?Our Father kingdom come". (x2)
Then again you hear me moanin? ?Lord let their will be done?.

9) Outro (8 bars)
Spoken: Listen women, you can't get to heaven triflin'.
If I's you women, I wouldn't try.

MP3 attached. Hope someone can help with the bits I can't get.

Thanks,
Alex

Note: edited to reflect bajochris's suggestions below.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on February 13, 2007, 07:53:26 PM
Missing in verse 2 is "wonder" -- pronounced almost as one syllable
Missing in verse 3 is "honey"

4) She gets  ??? fareman  ??? bear my mind. (x2)
And I would let everybody ride, people, you know the train was mine.

She gets her water in [Fairman, Perrman], coal at the 'Bama mine (x2)
And I would let everybody ride, people, but you know the train ain't mine.

8) Some time you hear me singin? ?Our Father  ???? (x2)
"Our Father kingdom come"

Spoken: Listen women, you can't get to heaven  ???
missing word is "triflin'"

I can't make out the city name in the fourth verse but it sounds something like what I've put in brackets -- I'm at work and don't have time to look at maps of Texas right now  ;)
Chris
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 14, 2007, 12:04:03 PM
Banjochris:

As usual, your suggestions for "Little Hat Blues" are great. Can't completely hear "honey", but seems reasonable.

I Googled around on Fairmen etc. as a Texas town, but came up empty.

I've made the changes above.

Thanks,
Alex
Title: Cherry Street Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on February 19, 2007, 11:57:52 AM
How's it goin', eh:

Waaay back at the beginning of this thread, lindy had a go at "Cherry Street Blues". Waxy added some things as well. I've taken this start and tried to figure out some of the other things.

Cherry Street Blues was the last tune LHJ recorded, in June 1930. He again recycled the "Corpus Blues" accompanyment in E position, standard tuning

Cherry Street Blues
1930
E position, standard tuning

Introduction (8 bars)

1) Train come to San Antone, man, and stop in the yard.
Just as sure as the train come to San Antone, man, and stop in the yard.
It's gonna take two dollars and a quarter, I declare to send me a poster card

2) Mmmmmmm baby, aw honey what's on your mind?
Mmmmmmm baby, honey what's on your mind?
?Cus you really keeps me in trouble, really thinkin? about you all the time.

3) I?m gonna move to the bottom, camp out on the ground.
I'm gonna move to the bottom, man, and camp out on the ground.
Every morning I?ll call my woman just to hear my echo sound.

4) Instrumental verse

5) I?ve got a woman in San Antone, I declares, really sweet to me.
I?ve got a woman in San Antone, man, really sweet to me.
?Cus you people don't know she's here, but she lives on Cherry Street.

6) Instrumental verse

7) Mmmmmmmm, oh lawd lawdy lawd.
Mmmmmmmm, oh lawd, lawdy lawd.
I want Eddy Duncan, listen, to be my brother-in-law.

Eight) Instrumental verse

9) Now, you men got these women, aw treat them nice and kind.
Say you men got these sweet women, how come you don't be nice and kind?
?Cause don't you know Little Hat?s got something that'll change your sweet woman's mind.

10) Mmmmmmmm, know you ain't gonna think it's so.
Well I'm gonna tell you men something, I know you ain't gonna think it's so.
(instrumental line)

How's that look?

Alex


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Title: Two String Blues by Little Hat jones
Post by: GhostRider on December 18, 2007, 02:03:11 PM
Howdy:

I thought that over the Holidays I'd endeavor to finish off the lyrics to all the Little Hat Jones tunes.

I can see why I left this one to near the end. Two String Blues (another "what the heck does that refer to" title) has some very garbled passages.

This is another accompaniment in the Corpus Blue mold in Standard tuning, E position. If you can get this one tune down, you can play 6 LHJ tunes.

Two String Blues
Little Hat Jones
1929

Standard tuning, E position, pitched at F.

Introduction

1) I said listen baby, honey I cain't move no more (x2)
Aw these blues ??? window, trouble ??? door.

2) Some women sweet like a ??? , some only ??? (x2)
But you lied to me ??? with the woman you love.

3) Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm
Mmmmm,mmm
Aw there's something tellin' me, keeps on troublin' me.

4) Will you please tell the judge, don't have the trial 'till 2.
I said you go tell the judge, please don't have the trial 'till 2.
All I got ??? baby, let me see what my woman can do.

5)People heard she comin' easy ??? in her hand. (x2)
She had them ???, 'cus really lookin' for her man.

6) Tell me sweet baby, honey what's on your mind?
I said tell me sweet baby, aw what's on your mind?
You keep a poor man troubled, really lookin' downhearted all the time.

7) ???? good lookin' woman, talkin' 'bout stay all nigh with me (x2)
'Cus that woman'll make me love her, then she won't wanna treat me right.

8) Hmm baby, honey don't you think I know (x2)
That a woman make a man love her, people and shake hands and go.

9) Lawd, I'm goin' to Lousiana, aw get me a hoodoo hand.
I say I'm goin' down to Lousiana, aw get me a hoodoo hand.
I'm gonna stop my woman and fix it so she can't have other man.

outro

.MP3 attached.

Merry Christmas,
Alex

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Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: CF on December 18, 2007, 02:23:36 PM
Hey Ghostrider . . . great tune, haven't heard this one before. Here's some ideas . . .
First verse:
oh the blues crawled out my window & trouble have fallen in my door . . .

Second verse:
Some womens weep like a willow some moan just like a dog ???
 . . . . ain't with the one you love

Fifth verse:
People here she come at evening, holding hundreds in her hand??
Here come my woman at evening, had hundreds in her hand??
She had the law so upset man, they really looking for her man . . . ??

Seventh verse:
Listen, never let no good looking woman . . .

hope that helps a little
Title: Bye Bye Baby Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on December 31, 2007, 11:36:50 AM
Greetings:

I've always liked this tune, which has been TAB'd out by both S. Grossman (in "Texas Blues Guitar") and  Woody Mann (in "Six Early Blues Guitarists"). Little Hat Jones really works out a rhythm with his little backstrums, but otherwise this is an atypical tune for him, no dissonance.

Bye Bye Baby Blues" is a 16-bar blues. Three of it's four sung verses are of the chorus blues style, first line, repeated once and then a two line chorus repeated in each of the three verses. The other verse has the first line repeated twice and then answered with the fourth line.

The third line of each sung verse, which stays on the I (G) chord throughout, is much more wordy and requires the full 4 bars to sing (no instrumental fill at the end as in the other lines).

I don't think any of the lyrics are difficult, but here it is for completeness sake.

Bye Bye Baby Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

Standard Tuning, G position, pitched at G#

Intro verse (instrumental, 16-bars)

1) Well it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.
Bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.
Well if I don't ever see you anymore, may God bless you everywhere you go.
'Cus it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.

2) Instrumental verse

3) Well leavin' sweet ba-by, can't carry you.
Said I'm leavin', sweet baby, don't you want to go?
Well if I don't see you anymore, may God bless you everywhere you go
'Cus it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.

4) Instrumental verse

5) Well I tried to love my sweet woman, but she couldn't understand.
Said I tried to love my sweet woman but she didn't understand.
Well I tried to love my sweet woman, but the woman didn't seem to understand.
But I knowed she realized the trouble since she met another man.

6) So it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.
Bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.
Well if I don't' ever see you anymore, may God bless you everywhere you go.
For it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.

Outro (8 bars).

Alex

PS as to the "never" vs "ever" in Bye Bye Baby Blues, (see dingwall's post below) I'm afraid I'm going to have to stay with ever. Actually pretty clear to me.
A.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on January 02, 2008, 10:08:44 AM
Here's my version, GhostRider, plus a couple of pedantic suggestions for 'Bye Bye---'.


Two String Blues

I said, listen, baby, honey, I can't move no more.
I said, listen, baby, honey, I can't move no more.
For these blues crawl up my window and travel up underneath my door.

Some womens weep like a willow and some mourn just like a dove.
Some womens weeps like a willow, I know that some mourn just like a dove.
But your life's in misery, man, if you ain't with the woman you love.

(Humming lines.)
Lord, there's somethin' tellin' me, keeps on troublin' me.

Will you please tell the judge, don't have a trial till June.
I say, go and tell the judge, please don't have a trial till June.
'Cause I've got a workin' baby, let me see what my woman can do.

People, here she come at evenin', hold her hundreds in her hand.
Here come my woman at evenin', have her hundreds in her hand.
She had done robbed some fatmouth and really lookin' for her man.

Tell me, sweet baby, honey, what's on your mind.  OK
I said, tell me, sweet baby, oh, what's on your mind.
You keep a poor man troubled, really lookin' downhearted all the time.

Listen, I won't let no good-lookin' woman try not to stay all night with me.
Say, I wouldn't let no woman, talkin' about stay all night.
'Cause that woman makes me love her, then she won't wanna treat me right.

Hmm, baby, honey, don't you think I know?
Hmm, baby, honey, don't you think I know?
That a woman make a man love her, people, and shake hands and go.

Lord, I'm goin' to Louisiana, oh, and get me a hoodoo hand.
I say, I'm goin' down Louisiana, oh, and get me a hoodoo hand.
I'm gonna stop my woman and fix it so she can't have her other man.

Bye Bye Baby Blues

1/2/4.3 Well, if I don't NEVER see you
2.2 SAID I'm leavin', sweet baby,

ADDED
I had a quick look at some of the early pages of the topic and notice that you couldn't get the last bit of the last line of 'Hurry Blues'.   It is 'Sweet land of blue cheese'.   David Evans told me it is a black's parody of the second line of 'America', 'Sweet land of liberty'.

Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 02, 2008, 12:04:16 PM
Cheapfeet and dingwall.

Thanks for your corrections to "Two String Blues" The amended version is set out below.

My main deviation from the dingwall version is in Verse 4. I hear the last word in the first two lines still as two (as in two o'clock). I hear a distinct "te" sound at the beginning and no "ne" at the end. Could anyone else look at this part, please.

I also have a few variations in the last line of Verse 7.

Two String Blues
Little Hat Jones
1929

Standard tuning, E position, pitched at F.

Introduction

1) I said listen baby, honey I cain't move no more (x2)
For these blues crawl up my window, 'n' travel up underneath my door.

2) Some womens weep like a willow and some mourn just like a dove.
Some womens weeps like a willow I know that some mourn just like a dove.
But your life's in mis'ry, man, if you ain't with the woman you love.

3) Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm
Mmmmm,mmm
Lord there's something tellin' me, keeps on troublin' me.

4) Will you please tell the judge, don't have a trial 'till two.
I say, go tell the judge, please don't have a trial 'till two.
'Cus I've got a workin' baby, let me see what my woman can do.

5) People hear she come at evenin' hold her hundreds in her hand.
Here come my woman at evenin', had her hundreds in her hand.
She had done robbed some fatmouth, an' really lookin' for her man.

6) Tell me sweet baby, honey what's on your mind?
I said tell me sweet baby, aw what's on your mind?
You keep a poor man troubled, really lookin' downhearted all the time.

7) Listen I won't let no good lookin' woman, try not to stay all night with me.
Say I won't let no woman, talkin' about stay all night.
'Cus that woman'll make me love her, then she won't wanna treat me right.

Eight) Mmm baby, honey don't you think I know (x2)
That a woman make a man love her, people and shake hands and go.

9) Lawd, I'm goin' to Lousiana, aw and get me a hoodoo hand.
I say I'm goin' down Lousiana, aw an' get me a hoodoo hand.
I'm gonna stop my woman and fix it so she can't have 'er other man.

outro

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 02, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
ADDED
I had a quick look at some of the early pages of the topic and notice that you couldn't get the last bit of the last line of 'Hurry Blues'.   It is 'Sweet land of blue cheese'.   David Evans told me it is a black's parody of the second line of 'America', 'Sweet land of liberty'.

I listened to this and it is exactly right. Weird.

I corrected the "Hurry Blues" post above.

Thanks,
Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on January 03, 2008, 04:56:42 AM
GhostRider, listening again to 'Two String Blues', I've edited my version to 'some mourn just like a dove', and altered the start of the last line.
Title: Cross the Water Blues by Little Hat Jones
Post by: GhostRider on January 03, 2008, 12:06:04 PM
Hey:

The last Little Hat Jones tune is "Cross the Water Blues", recorded in this last session on June 14, 1930. Again the title is enigmatic, nothing like Cross the Water appears in the tune.

This is again played with the "Corpus Blues" acompanyment, in Standard Tuning, E position. Jones does three instrumental breaks on the recording, two of which are dissonent boogie-style ones which he does in a couple of his other Corpus accompanyments.

One of his verses (7) consists of a Texas Alexander-style moan, which he also did in "Two String Blues"

Still some rough spots, I hope some of you can help. MP3 attached.

Cross the Water Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

Standatd Tuning, E position, pitched at F.

Introduction

1) They said you got a sweet woman, man which you don't understand.
I see you got a sweet woman, man which you just don't understand.
Some man needs to take your woman and move 'cross to no man's land.

2) Mmmm, ain't gonna sing no more.
Mmmm, people, ain't gonna blow no more.
Blues done crawled up my window and trouble done gwine up my door.

3) Boogie instrumental break

4) Have you ever went to bed, mister and think about your sweet woman at night.
Have you ever laid down, mister and keep thinkin' about your sweet woman at night.
Do you know, you get to turnin' and twitchin', I declare man, you cain't lay just right.

5) I want you to take me home with you baby, listen, ease me down 'cross your bed.
I want you to take me home with you baby, girl, and ease me down 'cross your bed.
I want you talk baby-talk to me and then suck my tongue cherry red.

6) Instrumental break

7) Mmm, Mmmm, Mmm, mm,mm
Mmm, Mm, Mm ah, oh.
(instrumental line)

Eight) Now, listen baby, honey what's on your mind?
I said will you please tell me baby, honey what's on your mind?
Now is it anything I can do, I'm talkin' about, to change your mind.

9) Boogie instrumental break

Outro

How 'bout that Verse 5. LHJ was sure a silver-tongued devil.

Alex

Note: corrected to reflect dingwall's comments below.

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Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on January 03, 2008, 08:44:32 PM
Quote
Blues done crawled up my window and trouble ??? up my door.

.... trouble gwyin' (e.g. southern dialect for "going", not sure how to better spell that) up my door.

Quote
4) Have you ever went to bed, listen ???, thinkin' about your sweet woman at night.
Have you ever laid down, listen ???, thinkin' about your sweet woman at night.

I hear "Mister" or "Mistah"

Have you ever went to bed, Mistah, thinkin' about your sweet woman at night.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Bricktown Bob on January 03, 2008, 10:03:42 PM
.... trouble gwyin' (e.g. southern dialect for "going", not sure how to better spell that) up my door.

Usually spelled "gwine."  Like "swine," I suppose.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on January 04, 2008, 06:54:27 AM
Much better, thanks Bob.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on January 04, 2008, 08:32:05 AM
A few suggestions, GhostRider ? Slack's points are incorporated.

1.1 They SAY IF YOU'VE got a ---
1.2 I SAY IF YOU'VE got a ----
2.2 Mmmm, people, I ain't ---
2.3 ---and DONE GWINE up my door.
4.1 ---bed, MISTER, AND THINK about ---
4.2 ---down, MISTER, AND KEEP thinkin' ---
4.3 DO you know, ---
5.1 ---baby, LIFT AND ease me down---
5.3 I want you TO talk BABY-TALK (??not baby, talk?? to me---
8.1 NOW, listen baby,---
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 11, 2008, 11:22:58 AM
A few suggestions, GhostRider ? Slack's points are incorporated.

1.1 They SAY IF YOU'VE got a ---
I still hear "said". The "d" sond is clear to me
1.2 I SAY IF YOU'VE got a ----
Here I'll stick with "see you" as well
2.2 Mmmm, people, I ain't ---
I just don't hear the "I". Maybe my ears are bad.
2.3 ---and DONE GWINE up my door.
This is right.
4.1 ---bed, MISTER, AND THINK about ---
I like this as well
4.2 ---down, MISTER, AND KEEP thinkin' ---
Yes.
4.3 DO you know, ---
Correct.
5.1 ---baby, LIFT AND ease me down---
The key to this one is the "f" sound. I just dont hear it.
5.3 I want you TO talk BABY-TALK (??not baby, talk?? to me---
This is pretty subtle, but I agree.
8.1 NOW, listen baby,---
Yes, I agree.
I'll make the changes. Thanks, dingwall.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 11, 2008, 11:54:03 AM
Hi all:

I think that we have all the Little Hat Jones tunes in fairly accurate condition, except for "Rolled Fron Side to Side Blues". The first two lines of the first verse are just not right. For some other attempts at decifering these lines look at page three of this thread, where also you'll find an MP3 of the tune.

I hope some of you can help with this. Thanks in advance.

Alex

Rolled From Side to Side Blues
Little Hat Jones
1929

Standard tuning, G position.

Intro (double time)

(1) Mr Freddie, Mr. Freddie is a man chou womenfolks know (x2)
Lord I'm tryin' t' get my sweet woman like Mr. Freddie got his girl

(2) Mmmmm, baby don't you think I know (x2)
Pretty woman make her man love her, people, and shake hands and go

(3) Don't never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
I said man, don' never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
Aww, she get all o' your money then look what a hole your in.

(4) Instrumental break (16 bars)

(5) I went to bed last night, people, rolled from side to side (x2)
I didn't have no blues understand but things wasn't goin' right.

(6) When you catch me sleepin', baby don't you think I'm drunk (x2)
'Cause I've a got one eye on my pistol, keep the other one on your trunk

(7) Instrumental break (12 bars)

(8)Tell me sweet baby, aww, what's on your mind
I said tell me sweet baby, honey, what's on your mind
You keep a poor man troubled, really lookin' downhearted all the time

Note: edited to reflect dingwalls comments below.

Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on February 12, 2008, 03:05:31 AM
Some comments, GhostRider, some trivial.    This topic started long before I was active on Weenie, so I might have the odd suggestion re the early lyrics.   I'll try to do this in a week or so.
 
Rolled From Side to Side Blues
 
1.1/2 MISTER FREDDIE, MISTER FREDDIE IS A MAN THAT YOU WOMENFOLKS KNOW
1.3 LORD, I'M tryin' TO get my sweet woman like MISTER FREDDIE got his girl
2.3 Pretty woman make HER man love her, people, and shake hands and go
3.1 DON'T never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
3.2 I said man, DON'T never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
3.3 Aww, she get all OF your money then look what a hole YOU'RE in
5.3 I didn't have no blues, UNDERSTAND THAT things weren't goin' ON right.
6.3 'CAUSE I've (no A) got one eye on my pistol, keep the other one on your trunk
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 12, 2008, 09:00:19 AM
Some comments, GhostRider, some trivial.    This topic started long before I was active on Weenie, so I might have the odd suggestion re the early lyrics.   I'll try to do this in a week or so.
 
Rolled From Side to Side Blues
 
1.1/2 MISTER FREDDIE, MISTER FREDDIE IS A MAN THAT YOU WOMENFOLKS KNOW
This seems right, but I'm torn between Freddie and Faraday. And LHJ pronounces "you" as "chou"
1.3 LORD, I'M tryin' TO get my sweet woman like MISTER FREDDIE got his girl
2.3 Pretty woman make HER man love her, people, and shake hands and go
Perfect
3.1 DON'T never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
This is right.
3.2 I said man, DON'T never take no woman, I'm speakin' 'bout, to be your friend
3.3 Aww, she get all OF your money then look what a hole YOU'RE in
I'd change "of" to "o'", but that's trivial
5.3 I didn't have no blues, UNDERSTAND THAT things weren't goin' ON right.
Understand is certianly right but I hear "but" not "that" after.
6.3 'CAUSE I've (no A) got one eye on my pistol, keep the other one on your trunk.
After repeated listening, you're right, except that we both but the word "eye" in, when he doesn't say it, "'Cause I've got one on..." Interesting


Thanks again, dingwall. That first line I wouldn't have gotten in a million years. I'll make the changes.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on February 12, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
Some very minor points. One of my favourite tunes.

I hear Little Hat pronounce it as 't'you more than chou. How's that for minor?  :P (Sorry, chou just looks French to me, and LH isn't singin' about cabbage.)

I think Mister Freddie is right.

For verse 5.3. I hear "I didn't have no blues, understand, but things wasn't goin' right"

In 6.3. I think he does sing "got one eye on my pistol". He runs everything together and barely makes the line.

Nice job, guys. Little Hat can be tough to decipher IMO.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on February 14, 2008, 02:21:53 PM
Just had a look at Reply #1 from waxwing on this topic, and have to modify my undertaking to comment on the earlier Little Hat transcriptions.       
                      ---------------------
Quote from: waxwing on August 24, 2003, 10:16:39 AM
So you guys know, I have all the current Volumes of these lyric transcriptions. However, I am not keen on posting whole songs on the web. But, if you post what you've got, as Lindy did, I'll look up Bob's transcriptions of the missing bits. Only seems fair to Bob.
                      ---------------------
Thanks for the kind remarks elsewhere in your post.   I appreciate what you say, waxwing about not posting whole songs, but not just that it's being fair to me.   Although I have posted a few whole songs, I don't as a rule, in deference to people who bought my books.   Anyway, I assume you have thrown in book suggestions which, accepted or not, will save a repetition from me.   However, one of the books has a second edition (none of the others have), and I imagine you don't have that, since I recently mentioned 'Sweet land of blue cheese' in response to what seemed a problem.   Four of the lyrics are in this second edition.   I've already thrown in my pennyworth for two of them, leaving 'Hurry Blues' and 'Kentucky Blues'.    I'll go over these in about a week. 

(Sorry, I don't know how to do Weenie quotes properly!)

Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on February 16, 2008, 05:41:43 AM
At the cost of being considered stupidly pernickety, here's my thoughts, GhostRider, on the two further Little Hat songs.   But first, re  'Rolled From Side To Side Blues' line 5.3, I still think it's 'that' after many hearings.   The sense is different in 'no blues, understand, but' with the extra comma.   Also, I agree with Andrew's 'wasn't'. 

5.3 I didn't have no blues, UNDERSTAND THAT things WASN'T goin' ON right.


Kentucky Blues (This is based on your version at REPLY #33)
Little Hat Jones
1930
solo acoustic guitar
Standard tuning, E position, pitched at F.

2.1 Well, whilst we here tryin' TO have our fun
2.2 S'POSIN' the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
2.4 Long gone and I'M got away lucky
2.5 'Cus (??or 'CAUSE better??) I'M gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine
3.4 DON'T WANNA LET YOU sing this worried song"
4.1 WELL, I ONCE HAVE KNOWED A man they CALLED him Austin Jack
4.2 Stopped 'EM(??) put the bloodhounds RIGHT on my track
4.3 'CAUSE the BLOODHOUNDS JUST could not catch my scent
4.4 Do you know they couldn't tell where LI-LITTLE(??a stumble) Hat went
4.5 'Cus I left Seguine, people I WAS just like a submarine.
6.1 Well HERE(??) come the Santa Fe just PUFFIN' and flyin'
6.2 Oughta SEEN me when I reached up and really caught them BLIND(This sounds singular and is almost always that way ? 'ride the blind' and so on)
6.3 They said "That's another long gone, from Kentucky
6.4 Long gone and then got away lucky
6.5 'Cus HE left Seguine, HE WAS just like a submarine"(Quotation is over the three lines)
8.5 'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare I(??) ain't comin' here no more
9.4 WANNA tell you 'bout YOUR MONEY that your father had

Just by the way, I note twelve lyrics (from about half the pre-war blues) with submarines, suggesting that there might be over twenty in all pre-war.   I'll list these if anyone is interested 


Hurry Blues    (Comments here are on your version at REPLY #35.  I've separated the x2 lines, as I suggest some differences.)
 
2.1 I NOTICE EAGLE'S on A dollar, other side "In God We Trust" (I had 'know there's' and have just noticed(!) it's 'notice' ? makes sense too -  one eagle, not plural, and in second line, checking it's a genuine coin.)
2.2 I NEED TO NOTICE EAGLE'S on A dollar, ON(??) THE other side "In God We Trust"
2.3 Well, a woman loves a man but I know THIS (??quite clear, rather than 'dis') dollar's WORTH
4.1 HAS you ever loved a woman, man,---
4.2 I SAY, have you ever loved a woman, one---
6.3 AND I MAY STOP AT TOWNS WHERE I HAVEN'T NEVER been before.
9.1/2 Some time you hear me singin' "Nearer, OH My God to Thee"
9.3 THEN again you hear me singing, "Sweet land of blue cheese"

Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on February 16, 2008, 11:27:23 AM
Dingwall:

Don't worry about being persnickety, I like persnickety. Your efforts are much appreciated.

And I'd love to see the submarine list.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dingwall on February 17, 2008, 03:42:29 AM
Submarine in pre-war Blues and Gospel lyrics.       

LITTLE HAT JONES        KENTUCKY BLUES                       
 Well, whilst we here tryin' to have our fun.
 Supposin' the law jumped up and said "Nobody run."
 Well, you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky.
 Long gone and I'm got away lucky.
 'Cause I'm gonna leave Seguin, I'll be just like a submarine.

BLIND LEMON JEFFERSON   RABBIT FOOT BLUES                         
 Got an airplane baby, now they're gonna give me a submarine.
 An airplane, now they're gonna give me a submarine.
 Gonna get that Kaiser and we'll be seldom seen.

WILLIAM & VERSEY SMITH  EVERYBODY HELP THE BOYS COME HOME
  Now Kaiser Bill, he didn't have no friends.
 Come all you workers on defence.
 Goin' into England, that's what I mean.
 Whilst evadin' that submarine.

BARBECUE BOB            EASE IT TO ME BLUES
 I'm gonna buy me a gun, airplane and a submarine.
 I'm gonna buy me a gun, airplane and a submarine.
 Gonna kill everybody ever treat me mean.

ROOSEVELT SYKES         THIRD DEGREE BLUES                       
 Before I stand your doggin', mama, I know I'd let you go free.
 Before I stand your doggin', mama, I have to let you go free.
 You're bustin' my heart wide open like a submarine in the deep blue sea.

WEBSTER TAYLOR          WORLD IN A JUG
 I'm gonna get me a submarine.
 Gonna get me a submarine.
 Gonna get me a brand new rider, gonna call her Katherine.

BILLIKEN JOHNSON        SUN BEAM BLUES
 Don't need a air-o-plane, steamboat or submarine.
 Don't need a air-o-plane, steamboat nor submarine.
 But if I miss the Sun Beam, I will be seldom seen.

THE HOKUM BOYS          YOU CAN'T HAVE NONE OF THAT
 See that carload o' money goin' down to the bank.
 As far as you're concerned, it's a submarine tank.
 You can't have none of that, you can't have none of that.
 Just get your mind off it, you can't have none of that.

SISTER CALLY FANCY      DEATH IS RIDING THROUGH THE LAND
 You're dependin' on your navy,
 And your great submarines.
 You had better plan, should war break out,
 To bring Jesus on the scene.

VICTORIA SPIVEY         BLACK SNAKE BLUES
 I'd rather be a catfish swimmin' in that deep blue, Lord, beneath a      submarine behind a floatin' boat. 
 I'd rather be a catfish, Lord, in that deep blue sea.
 Than to stay here in Texas, treated like they wanted to do me.

IDA COX                 ONE TIME WOMAN BLUES
 I'll get me a cannon, pistol and a submarine.
 I'll get me a cannon, pistol and a submarine.
 To blow down every man that treats a one-time woman mean.

MARTHA COPELAND         BLACK SNAKE BLUES.
 I'd rather be a catfish swimmin' in that deep blue, Lord, beneath the  submarine behind a floatin' boat.
 I'd rather be a catfish floating in the deep blue sea.
 Than to stay here in Texas treated like they want to do me.

MARTHA COPELAND         HOBO BILL
 His buddy asked him what two did he mean.
 He said, "An air?o-plane and a submarine."
 Ride on, ride on, Hobo Bill.

Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: doctorpep on March 08, 2008, 03:25:40 PM
As far as "Kentucky Blues" is concerned, I would think it'd be "tell you about the mother that your father had", as opposed to "tell you about the money that your father had". Perhaps the Dozens spawned the infamous "your mama"/"yo' mama" jokes around today. Great job deciphering the lyrics, guys!
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 10, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
This thread has been dormant for a while, time to kick it back into life.

I've become enthused about the Bye Bye Baby Blues melody after being reminded of it by hearing a cover by a duo named The East River String Band, nice unpretentious music, not earth shattering but they do a good job on Bye Bye. So I searched weenie to see what we had on the subject.

The Little Hat lyrics never made it to weeniepedia I noticed so I'm going to put them up. Since he recorded so few we can be completists easily enough.

Who here plays Bye Bye Baby Blues, and how do you do it? I can figure it out for sure, but I'm just starting on it so any insights you can share would be welcome. Sounds likely to be played out of G position capoed at first fret, the original is pitched at A flat or thereabouts. My first stab at it I was playing out of an E position but that doesn't seem to work for the whole tune.

Do we have a thread for 'blues with no V chord', because this song is one, the V isn't even really implied.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 10, 2009, 04:48:06 PM
[edit - whoops I see Ghost already did this one, missed it first time through. Oh well, we can argue some more about half-words, apostrophes etc]

Bye Bye Baby Blues - Little Hat Jones
San Antonio, Saturday 14 June 1930, OKeh 8815
G position pitched A flat

[instrumental verse]

Well it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye
Bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye
Well I'll prob'ly never see you anymore, may God bless you everywhere you go
But it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.

[instrumental verse]

Well I'm leavin' sweet baby, can't carry you
Said I'm leavin', sweet baby, don't you wanna go?
Well I'll prob'ly never see you anymore, may God bless you everywhere you go
But it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.

[instrumental verse]

Well I tried to love my sweet woman, she couldn't understand
Said I tried to love my sweet woman, she didn't understand
Well I tried to love my sweet woman, but the woman didn't seem to understand
But I know she's realized it's trouble since she met another man.

So it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye
Bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye
Well I'll prob'ly never see you anymore, may God bless you everywhere you go
For it's bye bye, pretty baby, baby bye bye.

[outro]
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on January 10, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Who here plays Bye Bye Baby Blues, and how do you do it? I can figure it out for sure, but I'm just starting on it so any insights you can share would be welcome. Sounds likely to be played out of G position capoed at first fret, the original is pitched at A flat or thereabouts. My first stab at it I was playing out of an E position but that doesn't seem to work for the whole tune.

G position, as I recall. Though I haven't played it in eons, since the vocal is way out of my range and I never compensated for that with a capo or transposition.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Mike Brosnan on January 10, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
This tune is one of the reasons I keep my guitar tuned a whole step low...  I play "Bye-Bye Baby" in G position pitched to F or F# (depending on how my lungs are feelin' on any given day...).  I've heard this tune played with a quick V chord and it really doesn't work for me.  Our man Mr. Stovepipe does a great version of this on YouTube.  I really like the way this tune sounds when it's played slower than Little Hat's original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eY71HPq8xc
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 10, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
I've started up the weeniepedia entries for these. I've been careful to use the finished version of each. So far I have Corpus, Kentucky and Bye Bye entered. What's the definitive CD release for LHJ? It needs to go on the artist page:
http://www.weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Little_Hat_Jones
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 12, 2009, 08:42:37 AM
Folks:

There is a quick V chord in Bye Bye Blues, in Bar 7. He plays a tonic melody note (D, third fret 2 string) followed by the 7th (C, first fret 2 string) over and A-D alternating bass?

Lots of third string melody notes on this one.

The complete works of LHJ are on the Document release entitled "Texas Blues"

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 12, 2009, 04:38:03 PM
I half disagree, and half agree. I reckon it's a melody passing note played over the IV, implying the V...  ;)
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 20, 2009, 11:43:17 AM

Kentucky Blues (This is based on your version at REPLY #33)
Little Hat Jones
1930
solo acoustic guitar
Standard tuning, E position, pitched at F.

2.1 Well, whilst we here tryin' TO have our fun
2.2 S'POSIN' the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
2.4 Long gone and I'M got away lucky
2.5 'Cus (??or 'CAUSE better??) I'M gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine
3.4 DON'T WANNA LET YOU sing this worried song"
4.1 WELL, I ONCE HAVE KNOWED A man they CALLED him Austin Jack

Agreed
Quote
4.2 Stopped 'EM(??) put the bloodhounds RIGHT on my track
4.3 'CAUSE the BLOODHOUNDS JUST could not catch my scent
4.4 Do you know they couldn't tell where LI-LITTLE(??a stumble) Hat went
4.2 I still think its 'n', but I grant there's an "eey" aspiration on the front. Leaving
4.3 I think blindest is quite clear here. The vowel sound to me is "i" not "oo". Anyone else? Leaving for now.
4.4 I agree that there is a stumble

Quote
4.5 'Cus I left Seguine, people I WAS just like a submarine.
6.1 Well HERE(??) come the Santa Fe just PUFFIN' and flyin'
6.2 Oughta SEEN me when I reached up and really caught them BLIND(This sounds singular and is almost always that way ? 'ride the blind' and so on)
6.3 They said "That's another long gone, from Kentucky
6.4 Long gone and then got away lucky
6.5 'Cus HE left Seguine, HE WAS just like a submarine"(Quotation is over the three lines)
8.5 'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare I(??) ain't comin' here no more
Agreed
Quote
9.4 WANNA tell you 'bout YOUR MONEY that your father had
9.4 I think YOUR is "the", pronounced th'. Agree with the rest

Alex

Kentucky Blues
Little Hat Jones
1930

solo acoustic guitar
Standard tuning, E position, pitched at F.

Introduction (instrumental)

(1) Instrumental

(2)Well, whilst we here tryin' to have our fun
S'posin' the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
Well you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine

(3) Well my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
She said "Please don't let 'em kill (deleted me)Mr. Little Hat dead"
I said "No use to worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long"
Don't Waznn let you sing this worried song
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine, I'll be just like a submarine.

(4) Well, I once have knowed the man they call him Austin Jack
Stopped 'n' put the bloodhounds right on my track
Course the blindest could not catch my scent
Do you know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
'Cus I left Seguine, people I's just like a submarine.

(5) Instrumental

(6) Well yon' come the Santa Fe just puffin' and flyin'
Oughta seen me when I reached up and really caught them blind
They said "That's another long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus you left Seguine, you's just like a submarine"

(7) Instrumental

( I'm gonna sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
(instrumental)
'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare I ain't comin' here no more

(9) Well I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cus she keep on talkin' I'll ease ya in
Well you keep on talkin' 'till you make me mad
Well I tell you 'bout th' money that your father had
'Cus I don't play the dozen, I declare, man, and neither the ten

(10) Instrumental

Outro


Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 20, 2009, 12:53:20 PM
Quote
Hurry Blues    (Comments here are on your version at REPLY #35.  I've separated the x2 lines, as I suggest some differences.)
 
2.1 I NOTICE EAGLE'S on A dollar, other side "In God We Trust" (I had 'know there's' and have just noticed(!) it's 'notice' ? makes sense too -  one eagle, not plural, and in second line, checking it's a genuine coin.)
2.2 I NEED TO NOTICE EAGLE'S on A dollar, ON(??) THE other side "In God We Trust"
2.3 Well, a woman loves a man but I know THIS (??quite clear, rather than 'dis') dollar's WORTH
2.1 I listened to this 20X. My opinion is that it's not "notice" rather "know this" (this pronounced "dis")
2.2 Same. "know dis" rather that "notice".
2.3 again I hear dis, not this. Can anybody else help with this? Agree on WORTH.
Quote
4.1 HAS you ever loved a woman, man,---
4.2 I SAY, have you ever loved a woman, one---
6.3 AND I MAY STOP AT TOWNS WHERE I HAVEN'T NEVER been before.
9.1/2 Some time you hear me singin' "Nearer, OH My God to Thee"
9.3 THEN again you hear me singing, "Sweet land of blue cheese"
Agreed. The 6.3 line is amazing, I could here it my way our yours on alternate listenings. I think yours is right. I'd add an A between AT and TOWN and depluralize TOWNS

Alex

Hurry Blues
Little Hat Jones
June 21, 1929

Standard tuning, C position.

1) Intro verse

2) I know this eagle's on the dollar, other side "In God We Trust"
I need to know this eagle's on a dollar, on the other side "In God We Trust"
Well, a woman loves a man but I know this dollar's first.

3) Instrumental verse

4) Has you ever loved a woman, man, that didn't love you .
I say have you ever loved a woman, one that didn't love you.
Then you have the worried blues, to bother you the whole night through.

5) Instrumental verse

6) Well I'm going sweet baby, honey don't you want to go I'm going sweet baby, aw) don't you want to go
And I may stop at a town where I haven't never been before.

7) Lead break (extended)

Eight) Instrumental verse

9) Some time you hear me singin' "Nearer My God to Thee"
Some time you hear me singin' "Nearer My God to Thee"
Then again you hear me singing, "Sweet Land of Liberty".

Outro

note: edited to reflect dj's, banjochris's and Unkie Bud's comments below.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dj on January 22, 2009, 05:02:06 AM
While I absolutely love "sweet land of blue cheese" and think I might sing the song that way if I ever performed it myself, I think that what's transcribed as "blue cheese" pretty obviously has 3 syllables and, on a close listen, the phrase is "sweet land of liberty".  Jones is referencing the song "America", which begins "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty".  For non-U.S. weenies, it's one of the major "national songs" of the United States, and would have been performed often at parades, picnics, gatherings, and civic events back in Jones' day (and still is today). 
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 22, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
While I absolutely love "sweet land of blue cheese" and think I might sing the song that way if I ever performed it myself, I think that what's transcribed as "blue cheese" pretty obviously has 3 syllables and, on a close listen, the phrase is "sweet land of liberty".  Jones is referencing the song "America", which begins "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty".  For non-U.S. weenies, it's one of the major "national songs" of the United States, and would have been performed often at parades, picnics, gatherings, and civic events back in Jones' day (and still is today). 

dj:

Thanks for this. I relistened about 30x. at first it did sound like liberty. But later it sounded like blue-er-ty. And once and a while I could here a barest hint of an "s" at the end. So I'm on the fence.

I'll try listening again later. Any other opinions? Ther's an MP3 of Hurry Blues at Reply #35 in this thread.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dj on January 22, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
Alex,

He does pronounce the first syllable of "liberty" kind of oddly.  It comes out almost "Lew-erty".  He never really gets the "b" sound at the end of the syllable, and the vowel is a bit further down in the throat than most of us would use to pronounce a short "i".  And there's a bit of a hint of "b" at the start of the syllable that I think comes from the "of" being pronounced almost as "ub".  If you have some method of slowing the line down to 75% of normal speed, I think the "liberty" is more obvious.       
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 22, 2009, 11:19:41 AM
I've started up the weeniepedia entries for these. I've been careful to use the finished version of each. So far I have Corpus, Kentucky and Bye Bye entered. What's the definitive CD release for LHJ? It needs to go on the artist page:
http://www.weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Little_Hat_Jones

Texas Blues
Document Records DOCD-5161
The complete recorded works of Coley Jones, Bo Jones, Little Hat Jones, Willie Reed and Oak-Cliff T-Bone
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on January 22, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
Somewhere back in this thread or somewhere there is a discussion of "sweet land of blue cheese" being a parody of the actual "liberty" line from "America" (perhaps better known as "My Country, 'Tis of Thee"? although we know it here as God Save the Queen  ;D).

However, like dj, as much as I like "sweet land of blue cheese", Little Hat is clearly singing "sweet land of liberty". I'd say Little Hat is using the phrase like it's the song title.

Some time you hear me singin' "Nearer My God to Thee"
Then again you hear me singing, "Sweet Land of Liberty".

BTW, he does not sing "Nearer OH My God to Thee", it's just the way he pronounces Nearer.

Rivers, the DOCD Alex cites is indeed the basic Little Hat reference. Although, the same material is available on the JSP set, Texas Blues: Early Blues Masters from the Lone Star State, JSP7730 (with lots more stuff).
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 22, 2009, 05:53:14 PM
Added the CD refs, Hurry Blues and fixed up Kentucky Blues per last iteration.

[edit:] OK, we now have the complete LHJ transcriptions in weeniepedia: http://www.weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Little_Hat_Jones_Lyrics

Feel free to fine-tune them here, we can update weeniepedia as we go. Great work everybody esp. Ghostrider.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on January 22, 2009, 11:34:32 PM
Hate to muddy the waters at this late date, but I clearly hear "first" as the last word of the first verse of "Hurry Blues." Also, this is a verse sung by a lot of blues singers, and "first" is the usual ending.
Chris
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on January 23, 2009, 07:13:46 AM
Hate to muddy the waters at this late date, but I clearly hear "first" as the last word of the first verse of "Hurry Blues." Also, this is a verse sung by a lot of blues singers, and "first" is the usual ending.
Chris

I agree with Chris, I clearly hear "first", as per the usual formula. I imagine the formula refers to a transaction with a prostitute originally, though perhaps sometimes means a woman taking a man's money first, loving him second. More interesting when sung by a woman like Geeshie Wiley in Eagles On a Half. "I love you daddy, but your dollar first". I'm pretty sure Memphis Minnie sang this line too.

Quote from: Ghostrider
2.1 I listened to this 20X. My opinion is that it's not "notice" rather "know this" (this pronounced "dis")
2.2 Same. "know dis" rather that "notice".
2.3 again I hear dis, not this. Can anybody else help with this? Agree on WORTH.

Ghosty - I agree with "know dis" over "notice" throughout the verse. However, it should really be transcribed as "know this", IMO. Dis's and dat's seem like dialect overkill. So "know this dollar's first" is perhaps Little Hat saying he understands the financial terms being laid out by gals like Geeshie. :) No money, no love.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dj on January 23, 2009, 07:35:29 AM
Is "Hurry Blues" yet another case of someone at the record company mishearing the title?  It seems to me that "Worried Blues" would be more appropriate.
 
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 23, 2009, 08:38:41 AM
Hate to muddy the waters at this late date, but I clearly hear "first" as the last word of the first verse of "Hurry Blues." Also, this is a verse sung by a lot of blues singers, and "first" is the usual ending.
Chris

Chris and Unkie Bud:

I listened to his word repeatedly when dingwall suggested worth. to me it sounds phonetically as forth, without (to my ear) any hints of the "st" sound at the end. It sounds as if LHJ started of to say first and changed mid stream to worth.

I know this line is usually sung first, but worth also makes sense and I think it's what (mostly) he's singing.

I'm going to give my ears a rest and listen one more time.

And Unkie Bud, I agree that dis should be replaced with this. Will make the change.

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: dj on January 23, 2009, 08:49:04 AM
I have to agree with "first".  True, the vowel sound is somewhere between "u" and "oi", but I think there are plenty of examples of that vowel sound replacing an "ir" in the blues of the period.  And the "t" isn't really there at the end of the word, so the whole thing ends up coming out as "fuy(r)s".   
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Bunker Hill on January 23, 2009, 09:35:49 AM
Is "Hurry Blues" yet another case of someone at the record company mishearing the title?  It seems to me that "Worried Blues" would be more appropriate.
I've been busting my brains over this, to no avail. Back in the dark ages when it first appeared on a Yazoo compilation there was a proposition that the title was a mishearing for "Worry Blues" with evidence supplied. Can I find it? Can I hell!
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on January 23, 2009, 10:30:53 AM
Is "Hurry Blues" yet another case of someone at the record company mishearing the title?  It seems to me that "Worried Blues" would be more appropriate.
 

Is "Hurry Blues" yet another case of someone at the record company mishearing the title?  It seems to me that "Worried Blues" would be more appropriate.
I've been busting my brains over this, to no avail. Back in the dark ages when it first appeared on a Yazoo compilation there was a proposition that the title was a mishearing for "Worry Blues" with evidence supplied. Can I find it? Can I hell!

Gentlemen:

See replys #35 and #37 of this thread

It's three to two so I'll go with "first"

Thanks for all your help,
Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 23, 2009, 04:40:48 PM
Updated, with a note re. first|worth, we can have it both ways: http://www.weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hurry_Blues
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on December 14, 2010, 06:32:18 PM
I added the 'formula' tag to catch the definitive list of submarine references the late, lamented Dingwall posted.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Gumbo on March 02, 2013, 06:33:40 AM
I'm late to the game but I hear

"Gonna tell you 'bout DEM OTHERS that your father had"

in the last verse of Kentucky Blues.

EDIT Gonna tell ... not I'll tell - thanks Rivers
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on March 02, 2013, 06:40:46 AM
I liked that suggestion but I don't hear that, listening to it again. I hear "Gonna tell you 'bout your mothers that your father had", which is slightly different again from what's in weeniepedia, and, I notice, was exactly what Uncle bud came up with in the very first transcription, see http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=102.msg561#msg561 (http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=102.msg561#msg561)
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on March 03, 2013, 07:58:08 AM
Tough call, really. FWIW, Elijah Wald in The Dozens transcribes it as SOME OTHERS. I hear it more as THE MOTHERS or as Gumbo suggests DEM OTHERS. Rationale for THE MOTHERS, plural, is that this is the dozens, it's an insult: Gonna tell you about the mothers your father had (in the sexual sense) other than your mother - he's got a bunch of baby mamas, or has done it with a lot of them. I think this would be an inversion of a more obvious insult implying there's a whole bunch of fathers for one mother, i.e., she's promiscuous, standard dozens material.

Edited to add: Looking at Wald at bit further, he points out Jelly Roll Morton sang in his Library of Congress recordings:

Said, look out bitch, you make me mad
I'll tell you about the puppies that your sister had
Oh it was a fad
She fucked a hog
She fucked a dog
I know the dirty bitch would fuck a frog
'Cause your mammy don't wear no drawers

Obviously taking the insult much further. Leadbelly also sang the couplet in one of the versions of Kansas City Papa:

You keep on talkin' till you make me mad
I'll tell you 'bout the puppies that your sister had

So whatever we have, Little Hat is playing around with standard dozens lines.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: GhostRider on March 25, 2013, 06:09:31 AM
Ladies, Gentlemen and Unkie Bud:

Well, I guess there is one more of his songs to do.

From Ari

 
http://picosong.com/nAkm/ (http://picosong.com/nAkm/)

Alex
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: cru423 on March 25, 2013, 06:30:14 PM
A quick note on these titles: "216 Blues" and "Two String Blues" which seem to be related. At first I was thinking this referred to the number of bars in a 32-bar blues (2x16), but then I remembered a song I'm not sure where I heard, called "216 Train". Sure enough, Blanche Johnson recorded a song in the 20s called, "2.16 Blues", which refers to a train leaving at 2:16. I distinctly recall this song title as, "216 Train", but I don't remember the artist. Any leads?
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on March 25, 2013, 07:51:40 PM
There's no "216 Blues" or "216 Train" other than Blanche Johnson listed in B&GR either as numbers or written out. I remember Jelly Roll Morton singing "219 took my baby away" or words to that effect in Mamie's Blues. Of course it could be in Jazz Records or recorded after 1942.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on March 26, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
I'm going to lay my head on some lonesome railroad line
And let that 219 ease my trouble in mind

Verse from either Big Bill or Brownie, I'll try and find it.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on March 26, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
Pretty sure that line is from the classic "Trouble in Mind" --

And Mance Lipscomb sings "Wish to the lord the 318 would wreck" in Santa Fe Blues.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on March 27, 2013, 07:41:18 PM
Apologies Chris, I wasn't clear, I knew it was Trouble In Mind, I just didn't recall which version. Maybe both? I'd better check them out.

[later, the answer is both. Plus I found a few more a few more 219's in recorded versions of that song, Virgil Perkins, Bertha Chippie Hill, Rosetta Tharpe and Georgia White]
Title: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on March 27, 2013, 08:07:32 PM
I figured you did -- I think it's in a ton of versions of it.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on March 27, 2013, 08:17:26 PM
Usually it's verse 2 in the older versions. It raises the question in my mind what is the 219? A fabled train, or a time of day, or something else entirely.

If it's the time of day, how did it originate, was it just because the first recorded version had it? I reckon so.

And what was the first recorded version? There are a lot of similar titles so it would take some B&GR index-diving to figure that one out.

Anyway, sorry for the diversion, back to Little Hat Jones lyrics.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Gerry Clarke on July 14, 2014, 05:51:50 AM
In relation to "Kentucky Blues", I am not at all sure that Little Hat is leaving "Seguine".  I suggest that he is simply singing the two words "so keen".  I base this on the fact that Andy Boy recorded "House Raid Blues" in 1937 on Bluebird B-6858-A and this is another version of "Long Gone", in which he uses a large portion of the Little Hat lyric word for word.  My copy of this disk is N- and Andy's diction is very clear.

Gerry
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Chezztone on December 07, 2014, 01:29:39 PM
OK, I guess I'm a late enrollee in the Little Hat Jones fan club. Been digging, playing and teaching "Kentucky Blues" and "Bye Bye Baby Blues" lately and thought I'd chime in about them on here.
What beautiful, unusual and different-from-each-other songs those two are! In "Kentucky," the singer is an expert at escaping from the law, which is always on his trail. Even a legendary lawman with a team of bloodhounds is no match for our hero, who gets away "like a submarine." What a great image, disappearing like a submarine, gone without a trace. In "Bye Bye Baby," sung in a different part of his range, straining to hit the high notes which makes it sound even achier, he is a rejected lover who still has hopes even as he says farewell forever. That verse where he says "can't carry you" but then in the next line rethinks it and asks "don't you want to go?" is just too much.
As for the guitar parts, they are not what they seem at first. On "Kentucky" there seem to be some extra notes sounding during the main I and IV chords. He might be doing the same descending pattern on the third string as on the first string, but not striking that string much, so you get a suggestion of those notes. Try it and see what you think.
The "Kentucky" intro, which returns in each verse, I think is single-note lead-in on fifth string to three-finger B7 shape at fourth fret (ignoring the capo), then slide down and back up a fret, then 3200 on the four high strings, then a full B7, with high string open and then closed, then E7, which moves around for the turnaround,
"Bye Bye Baby" -- the turnaround I think is fancier than it seems at first. Instead of just descending from third fret to 0 on the fourth string, try 3003, 2013, 1303, 0003 on the four high strings. Sounds old-fashioned and ragtime-y, and he seems to do that.
The other strangeness on "Bye Bye Baby" is during the second line, coming back from the IV chord to the I, he adds some strange and wonderful thing on the third string, putting a finger on and off the second fret about three times. Listen and you'll hear it. It is quite tricky to fit it in.
Oh, and back to the "dozens" verse of "Kentucky" -- I'm pretty sure he's talking about the "mother" (or "mothers"), not the "money" that your father had. Maybe the oilmen on the other side of town talk about your father's money when they play the dozens, but in Little Hat's community I doubt it, even if it sounds like that.
Have fun with these songs! Cheers, Chezz
Steve Cheseborough
stevecheseborough.com
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Johnm on January 28, 2016, 04:20:14 PM
Hi all,
I realize it has been a long time since this particular set of lyrics was worked on, but I think the first line of the first verse of "Rolled From Side To Side Blues" is:
   Mr. Faraday, Mr. Faraday is the man to womenfolks known

All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: DavidCrosbie on August 09, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
Somebody called Glen Weiser posted Kentucky Blues on YouTube with some background notes and a transcription which I think is broadly correct. I've made a few changes, then copied a few more changes from Ghost Rider and Dingwall.

Quote
Well whilst we here tryin' to have our fun
'Spose the law jumped up and said, 'Nobody run!'
Well, you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone, an' I'm got away lucky
'Cause I'm gonna leave Seguin,
I'll be just like a submarine

Well, my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
Said, 'Please don't let them kill Mister Little Hat dead'
I said, 'No use worryin', sweet mama, I ain't gonna be here long'
Tell her I love to sing this worryin' song
'Cause I'm gonna leave Seguin,
I'm gonna be just like a submarine

Well I once'd to know the man, they call him Austin Jack
Stopped and put the bloodhounds right on my track
'Cause the bloodhounds just could not catch my scent
You know, they couldn't tell where Little Hat went
'Cause I left Seguin,
People, I was just like a submarine

Well here comes the Santa Fe just puffin' and flyin'
Oughta seen me when I reached up and really caught them blinds
They said, 'There's another long gone - from Kentucky
Long gone - an' done got away lucky
'Cause he left Seguin,
He's just like a submarine'

I want to sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more....
'Cause I'm leavin' San Antonio, I declare I ain't coming here no more

Well, I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cause you keep on talkin', I'll ease you in
When you keep on talkin' till it makes me mad
Well I'll tell you 'bout the mothers that your father had
'Cause I don't play the dozen, I declare man, and neither the ten
 
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 09, 2018, 07:18:33 PM
Here's what we have in weeniepedia: https://weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Kentucky_Blues
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Slack on August 09, 2018, 07:27:32 PM
"Well, whilst we here tryin' to have our fun, s'posin' the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!""

I had to laugh at the first line... "whilst"?.... musta been one of those bloody English transcribers!!  :P
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 09, 2018, 07:28:30 PM
 O0

David, check out page 1 of this thread. We invested an insane amount of hours and brain cells on this many years ago.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: DavidCrosbie on August 09, 2018, 08:01:38 PM
Rivers, it was your link that sent me to this thread. I saw Page 1, and thought that Glen Weiser's version was better.

At first I didn't catch on how long the  thread was, so I posted something before I discovered the versions by Ghost Rider and Dingwall. I've now modified my posting to include what I think are (to my ear) the best bits from those two.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 09, 2018, 08:07:19 PM
I will give it some headphone time, compare and report back. Things don't tend to get promoted to weeniepedia without rigorous debate, and/or annotations indicating disputed hearings, but who knows.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 09, 2018, 08:29:38 PM
First up, here are the two transcriptions side by side, verse by verse

Proposed changesweeniepediaComments
Well whilst we here tryin' to have our fun
'Spose the law jumped up and said, 'Nobody run!'
Well, you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
Long gone, an' I'm got away lucky
'Cause I'm gonna leave Seguin,
I'll be just like a submarine

Well, whilst we here tryin' to have our fun
s'posin' the law jumped up and said "Nobody run!"
Well you know I'm long gone, from Kentucky
long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine,
I'll be just like a submarine

Well, my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
Said, 'Please don't let them kill Mister Little Hat dead'
I said, 'No use worryin', sweet mama, I ain't gonna be here long'
Tell her I love to sing this worryin' song
'Cause I'm gonna leave Seguin,
I'm gonna be just like a submarine

Well my woman poked her head out from way under the bed
She said "Please don't let 'em kill Mr. Little Hat dead"
I said "No use to worryin' sweet mama, ain't gonna be here long"
Don't waznn let you sing this worried song
'Cus I'm gonna leave Seguine,
I'll be just like a submarine.

Well I once'd to know the man, they call him Austin Jack
Stopped and put the bloodhounds right on my track
'Cause the bloodhounds just could not catch my scent
You know, they couldn't tell where Little Hat went
'Cause I left Seguin,
People, I was just like a submarine

Well I once have knowed the man they call him Austin Jack
Stop and put the bloodhounds right on my track
Course the blindest[1] could not catch my scent
Do you know they couldn't tell where the Little Hat went
'Cus I left Seguine, people I's just like a submarine

Well here comes the Santa Fe just puffin' and flyin'
Oughta seen me when I reached up and really caught them blinds
They said, 'There's another long gone - from Kentucky
Long gone - an' done got away lucky
'Cause he left Seguin,
He's just like a submarine'

Well yon' come the Santa Fe just puffin' and flyin'
Oughta seen me when I reached up and really caught them blind
They said "There's another long gone, from Kentucky"
Long gone and then got away lucky
'Cus you left Seguine,
you's just like a submarine

want to sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more....
'Cause I'm leavin' San Antonio, I declare I ain't coming here no more

I'm gonna sing this song, ain't gonna sing no more
[Instrumental lines, x 3]
'Cus I'm leavin' San Antoine, I declare I ain't comin' here no more

Well, I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cause you keep on talkin', I'll ease you in
When you keep on talkin' till it makes me mad
Well I'll tell you 'bout the mothers that your father had
'Cause I don't play the dozen, I declare man, and neither the ten

Well I don't play the dozen and neither the ten
'Cus she keep on talkin' I'll ease ya in
Well you keep on talkin' 'till you make me mad
Well I tell you 'bout the mother that your father had
'Cus I don't play the dozen, I declare, man, and neither the ten


I left out the arrangement data noted in the weeniepedia version on the instrumental breaks. Gettin' late, goodnight, TTYL
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: DavidCrosbie on August 10, 2018, 07:38:05 AM

Thanks Rivers. I would never have posted if I'd realised there was such a good 'authorised version'.

There are only two details I feel are worth arguing over.

* blindest/bloodhounds Although it sounds like blindest, i would argue that he's trying to sing bloodhounds with music enough for only one syllable and without much breath.

? and then got lucky/an' done got lucky There's definitely a word before got. It sounds closer to doesn't than anything, but that would make no sense. I'm pretty sure it's a stumble due to breathlessness. Done got lucky makes sense as a Past Tense of get lucky. Compare
Quote from: Blind Willie McTell
I've been shooting craps and gambling : mama and I done got broke
I done pawned my pistol : mama and my best clothes in soak
I've been trawling though got in Taft's Concordance. Almost every use of I got or he got is equivalent to I have or He has (in British English I've got or He's got.) Only a handful of examples of got meaning 'became' or 'received'. And they seem to be confined to got drunk and got a letter ? usually in the formula I got a letter ... How you you reckon it read?.

PS
I've just followed your link to a Leadbelly verse
Quote from: Leadbelly
"You keep on talkin' til you make me mad
I tell you 'bout the puppies that your sister had"
This makes me think again about Elijah Wald's suggestion that Little Hat usually sang
Quote
Gonna tell you 'bout some puppies that your father had
but censored it for the recording. Was and some other have suggested
Quote
tell you 'bout some others
which I'd dismissed as too feeble. But perhaps it's feeble because it's a bowdlerisation.
[/quote]

PPS Wikipedia spells the town as Seguin. Is this right?
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 10, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
"Seguin" is indeed correct, I'll correct weeniepedia. [later ? done]

Apropos of not very much at all, my mother-in-law is a 'snowbird', flying away to her home in Seguin for the winter and back to NYS for the summer. Smart woman!

Re. "Blindies", a quick search reveals bloodhounds are often functionally blind, regularly bumping into things. You can't let them wander or you risk them getting hit by cars. This is said to be due to their overriding obsession with scent, and their droopy eyelids, long ears, droopy everything in the facial area. They are also prone to canine diseases of the eye. I'm no bloodhound expert but it's not too much of a leap to wonder whether bloodhound handlers and their human quarry may have referred to them as "blindies".

Somewhat bizarrely there is a cartoon character or puppet out there named "Blindy Bloodhound", I noticed but didn't investigate.
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Rivers on August 10, 2018, 06:42:51 PM
Sooo... who among us would like to jump in and compare the two versions with Little Hat's recording?

Based on this recent discussion we can probably nail it down tighter than what we have - for example "Seguin" is now spelled correctly in weeniepedia. Weeniepedia has "San Antoine". Never heard it pronounced that way, maybe should be "San Antone"? Locals tend to say San Antone, not San Antonio, except at job interviews.

Ignore phonetic variations like "Cus..." and 'Cause...", that's just a presentation preference of the vernacular. We decided a long time ago we weren't going to fight over 'dis' and 'dat'; we want the meaningful meat.

I'll pitch in and vote for 'Blindies', based on the research I did while wearing my bloodhound researcher hat. It's a little hat, naturally. :)
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: banjochris on August 13, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
On the "bloodhounds/blindest" bit, it sounds very clear to me that he's singing "blood'ound" and just not articulating the H sound. He says it quick but I can hear the D at the end.
Chris
Title: Re: Little Hat Jones lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on December 11, 2022, 11:57:12 AM
Did Little Hat Jones forgot the words for the fifth verse of "Kentucky Blues" or was it intended like this?
I think I just skip that bit when I'm singing the song.
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