I met John Hurt through Mike Seger in Newport in '63. His agent, Tom Hopkins said we could sit and talk. Of course it was a festival and I was sitting backstage with him and a few people. A month or so later he was playing at the Philadelphia folk festival. I saw him approaching me and I started walking briskly to him to ask if he remembered me, I was in my early 20s, and when I got near enough, he said 'Hey Man! Do you remember me!?' hehe! That explains Mississippi John Hurt! Instead of me asking, he did! - Jerry Ricks, http://www.blueschat.com/tscripts/bc062198.htm
I'm trying to come up with a word for a line in a blues song I am writing. The song concerns a [no-good, of course] woman, and the line refers to her putting on her "party" high heels. I'm trying to find an old blues word that correlates to "party", but sounds good when followed by the words heels or high heels. What are some old expressions used to describe a jukejoint, or a party type atmosphere.
Right now the best thing I can come up with is "rent party heels", which I do kind of like. But I think there is something better out there.
Is there a book or website devoted to explaining the various old words and phrases used in country blues?
You could say "uptown" meaning fancy or maybe "downtown", i.e. where the action is. Or maybe "steppin' out" heels. "Rent party" seems a little too particular, like she might have other heels for a fancier party? Not likely. How 'bout "booger rooger" which Lemon Jefferson uses for party a lot. I'm trying to think of something that really implies "man bait" a little more subtly but that's all I can come up with.
BTW, since you refer to her as a no good woman, I thought you might be incorporating the term "doney" which is often misinterpretted to mean a no good woman, But as RJ qualifies it in "she's a no good doney, they shouldn't 'low her on the streets" he would be redundant. Coming from the root, madonna, a doney is just any young woman, good or bad. She could just as easily be a real sweet doney. Just one of my pet peeves.
Anyway, lets see what else folks come up with for those hot heels.
All for now. John C.
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"People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it." George Bernard Shaw
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"steppin' heels" was absolutely my first thought, just not as fast as John C? - carries the connotation of going out for a good time, and gives "stepping" a bit of an interesting double meaning when coupled with "heels".? If you needed to make the meter work, you could use "high steppin' heels"? (nice little alliteration on the "h", and splits the term "high heels" with the word "steppin", giving lots of nested meanings).
or, how about "vampire heels" - since I've got vampire's on the brain...?
See why this is such a great place? Thanks guys, I think I definitely have some good options here. I've got most of the lyrics in place, and the basic musical arrangement. Just have to sort it out and put it together. The song is going to be called 'Dead Man Blues', and is basically about a man who is dead singing about how he's going to come back from the grave to even the score with the woman that poisoned him. When I get a workable version going, I'll record it and post it on the porch for further tweaking!
Perhaps "cake-walking" is a suitable adjective?? ?A cakewalk is said to be a "strutting dance"--but I haven't been to one so I can't say? for sure whether it is appropriate.? ?It was a fun thinking about the possibilities for that no-good woman's cleated cheatin' heals....
Bill
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I'm sitting here wondering, will a matchbox hold my clothes...
Where have I heard the phrase "moanin' cat" or something to that effect? My memory for song names is virtually non-existant. It sounds like it could be used as a reference to a female cat in heat (or her human counterpart, the aforementioned no good woman), or am I offbase here?
Don't know if you already decided on the "heel" part, but what came to my mind was in line with what Tom said as far as splitting the "high heels" - "high time heels". It's not an old blues term and could be confused with the normal usage of "high time", but I'm thinking more along the lines of the Dead song - high/drunk, ie. partying.
And I've heard "moanin' cat" in reference to my singing and/or slide work , don't recall any lyrics with it though. But I'm sure in the right context it would be easily understood (or use a more descriptive, standalone "cat in heat" word - resist the urge to use a synonym for cat though - keep it clean!)
Thanks Adrian, this has been an interesting exercise for me - trying to write in an authentic blues voice. I want to use familiar imagery, without sounding generic (a noble goal, at least). It's interesting that you brought up "high time heels", I had been thinking of the phrase "high steppin heels", thinking that sort of implies that she's not going to be grieving over the news of my demise for very long.
Another image I'm trying to nail down with some "vintage" words is a euphemism for the Devil, or for Hell. I know the term "Old Scratch" has been used for many generations past, I don't think it commonly occurs in blues though?
I like "high time heels" - only, is she supposed to be grieving?!?! Lyrics are a total SOB, trying to split the interests of being true to yourself, but also the blues "tradition" etc. Very very easy to come off sounding contrived or stilted. Keep plugging at it.
This song is a variation on the basic 'John Henry' tune, falling somewhere between the uptempo bluegrass versions and the more haunting National guitar version recorded by Furry Lewis late in his life.? The whole idea sprang from a blues-joke I heard many years ago, someone was talking about a most depressing blues song, that starts out "Well, I didn't wake up this morning".? I always found that mildly hilarious and wanted to use it somehow.? So here's my take on the woman-done-me-wrong song.? I'm still not sure how it all will piece together, but it's coming along.? I find it much easier to work on the words a-capella, trying to get it to flow well and sound good with no accompaniment.? I think I have the basic guitar part figured out, but it's always the last 10% of any project that gives me the most trouble.? I think I need a producer!
Dead Man Blues? (D.Baker, 6/1/05)
Well I didn't wake up this morning, I could not climb out my bed There's cold pine boards beneath my back, six feet of earth restin on my head, Lord Six feet of cold earth upon my head
Late last night when the sun sat down, there's three crows lit in my tree When morning come them crows was all gone, Lord what will become of poor me? Lord what will become of me?
I got a stone cold woman, take the heat right out the sun Oh one fine day I'm gonna make her pay for how she done me wrong Lord knows she done me wrong
My baby made me biscuits, baked 'em good and brown She took none for herself, just sat and watched me put 'em down, mmm she just sat there ? ?and watched me put 'em down
And my stomach took to rumblin', and sweat come pourin' down The last good memory I recall, I was bayin like an old Walker hound, I cried baby why'd? you put your good man down?
But she paid me no mind, left me layin there to run my deal She smeared her lips with devil red lipstick And she put on her high timin heels - oh that moanin cat put on her black heels I said Baby why'd you go and kill me?
Baby yes it's true? I stepped out on you, but a man ain't nothin but a man But you ran around too and now you poisoned this fool, oh I wish I had a hammer in my hand How I wish I had a hammer in my hand
I'm a dead man now, but baby I ain't gone One night I'll rise up out this cold cold ground And I'll come knocking on your door, yeah I'll come knockin on your door
When I walk back through this graveyard gate, no pistol ball can stop me I'll wrap my long cold fingers round your sweet sweet neck Baby how you think your man will squeeze?? How hard you think a dead man can squeeze? I'll squeeze till your wicked heart turns green
I'm a dead man now, the blues won't worry me Lord I thank you for my time, now I'm goin down the line I wish I'd made my peace with Thee, it's too late to make my peace with Thee
But I'd ask You please, won't You please give me leave To fetch that woman back to Hell with me, Yeah she can burn in Hell here with me That woman burn in Hell with me
wow - that's a lot of words!? I struggle with getting a few good verses - you obviously are more capable in the wordsmith dept.? But, I admit to being audio-dependent - I gots to hear it to really gets it...? Not too many song lyrics stand up as straight poetry.? How long is gonna take you sing through all that?
wow - that's a lot of words!? I struggle with getting a few good verses - you obviously are more capable in the wordsmith dept.? But, I admit to being audio-dependent - I gots to hear it to really gets it...? Not too many song lyrics stand up as straight poetry.? How long is gonna take you sing through all that?
tom
Ha, that's a good question Tom. I once came across a version of John Henry that must've had 20 verses. I think if I leave out the 20 minute drum solo, this may clock in at under 4 minutes. Maybe less if people start throwing things. I'll try to work up a soundclip and post it on the Back Porch tonight.
"I got a stone cold woman" doesn't work for me -- for two reasons.? First, if you're dead, then you HAD a woman -- there isn't a present tense anymore.? Also, if you're dead, YOU are the stone cold one -- that woman is still quite warm :-)
[li]I wonder if "good time heels" wouldn't work better than "high time heels".[/li]
[li]From years of breeding cats, "moanin" isn't the sound of a cat in heat -- "calling" is the word breeders use, and it's technically accurate -- they are calling the male(s).? But the actual sound is more of a bellow or gutteral howl that comes straight from hell.? "Moanin" would better describe the contented sounds they make after visiting the male, or even the sound the mother makes when nursing kittens.[/li]
[li]I personally get more of a ballad feel from the words than a blues feel.? So I wouldn't be too concerned about trying to pick "blusey" words and phrases -- I concentrate on words that tell the story right, and let the voice inflections and accompaniment provide the blusey feeling.[/li]
[li]It's hard to be sure without hearing it sung, but there are places it feels too wordy -- places where there are words that don't really seem to add anything, and in some cases may detract.? For example, in the line "She took none for herself, just sat and watched me put 'em down", I don't find a need for the word "for" or for "sat and".? So I'd shorten it to "She took none herself, just watched me put 'em down".? As someone who tends to be long-winded, I guess I've learned to appreciate brevity over the years, even if it's hard for me to achieve personally.? It also gives you more options on how to fit the lyrics to the melody.? Son House was good at finding interesting ways to phrase a line.? As I sit and look at this line, it also occurs to me that I might also change a couple of words -- to "She ate (or had) none herself, just watched me chow 'em down".? The first change because the key to her still being alive is that she didn't eat any, not that she didn't take any.? The second, because "put 'em down" doesn't suggest eating the biscuits to me, it suggests NOT eating the buscuits.[/li] [/list]
Of course, everyone has his or her own unique feelings, so if my comments don't work for you, feel free to ignore them.? I've certainly ignored enough ideas over the years -- my own and others :-).