For what it's worth--to follow Rivers' "good thread in it's own right":
When I want thoroughly researched, well reasoned, articulate writing by the best minds at the forefront of culture and civilization, I go to the finest publications available at academic institutions of higher learning. However, when I want an accurate and comprehensive understanding the content and context of this pathetic existence that I refer to as my life, I seek the wisdom and insights that are evoked by the images which come forth from the lyrics of the country blues.
JohnM used the words, "apropos of nothing, just kind of nutty or enigmatic"--if the shoe fits...
Hi all, Another great Peg Leg Howell solo number from early in his recording career is "Fo' Day Blues". It has a flexible structure as did many of the early blues; it is 16 bars in the first, fifth and sixth verses, and otherwise a 12-bar blues. Why not? The extra repetition in the 16-bar verses can be used for emphasis. Peg Leg played it in A standard, a position he did not record any other solo performances in, and it is a harbinger of many characteristics found in later East Coast A standard tuning blues: the slid A barre and the D7 with the wrapped thumb fretting the second fret of the sixth string, among others. Clarence Greene's "Johnson City Blues" sounds like it could have been influenced by it. Note: The last verse is most often begun "I'd rather", as opposed to "I'm gonna". Peg Leg does say "I'm gonna" though it makes less sense with the last line. Here is "Fo" Day Blues":
I woke up this mornin', 'tween midnight and day (3) I felt for my rider, she done eased away
Sweet mama, sweet mama, your papa double do love you Sweet mama, sweet mama, papa double do love you Says, crazy about the way sweet mama do
My rider got somethin', I really don't know what it is (2) When I wake up in the mornin' can't keep my body still
My rider got somethin', they call it the stingaree My rider got somethin', called it the stingaree I wake up every mornin' it worryin', worryin' poor me
I'm goin', I'm goin', mama, ain't comin' here no more I'm goin' away, mama, ain't comin' here no more (2) When you see me leavin', pin crate [sic] on your door
Says the Mississippi River, mama, is long and deep and wide The Mississippi River is long and deep and wide The Mississippi River long and deep and wide I've got a lovin' fairy, she's on the other side
I'm goin' up the country, mama, honey, and I won't carry you I'm goin' up the country, mama I won't carry you 'T'ain't nothin' up the country, sweet mama, you can do
I'm gonna drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log Gonna drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow log Then to be in Atlanta, treated like a dog
All best, Johnm Note: Edited 8/9 to pick up corrections as per dj's comments.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 10:55:07 AM by Johnm »
I was just listening to it, and it's definitely "fairy". It's an alternate form of faro, for sure. I guess you could spell it any number of ways. Something like faree or fairee might be a better choice, just to avoid confusing associations.
I actually grabbed the CD and gave it a listen because I was sure John had misheard "crate" for crepe in the last line of verse 5, but Peg Leg clearly sings "crate" (though he must have meant crepe). On the other hand, I clearly hear "ain't comin' here no more" in the first 3 lines of the 5th verse.
Hi all, Thanks very much for the catch on verse 5, dj, you are absolutely right. I had transcribed "here" but typed in "home" when doing the post. I will make the correction. Similarly, I agree that "fary" is Peg Leg's version of "faro". He never says "faro" anywhere, but his meaning is certainly not "fairy". Where I have transcribed it in earlier songs on this thread, I have used the spelling "fary". I'll return to it here, as well. Thanks for the careful reading, everybody, I appreciate it, and I think it ensures better and more accurate transcriptions. And yes, Phil, I do intend to do some Peg Leg in my class at EBA. I'm heading out tomorrow, and really looking forward to it. All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 08:08:46 AM by Johnm »
Hi all, Peg Leg Howell recorded "Ball And Chain Blues" with the eccentric mandolin player, Jim Hill, on April 13, 1929. Peg Leg played "Ball And Chain" in Spanish tuning capoed up a ways. Instrumentally speaking it is not one of his most distinctive numbers, though it features the beautiful tone and perfect intonation we have come to associate with his playing. Jim Hill's playing is kind of mysterious. It is almost inaudible, yet despite that, lends a lot of color to the instrumental timbre. It almost sounds like he was playing a multi-coursed instrument like the Puerto Rican quatro or the tiple. As I listen to more Peg Leg Howell tunes, I become more impressed with how many of his lyrics turn up in later songs, as Lemon's did. Verse three from "Ball and Chain" shows up, more or less intact, in John Hurt's "Monday Morning Blues", and the final verse appeared in Fred McMullen's "Dekalb Chain Gang". Jim Hill supplies pretty much non-stop peanut gallery-type commentary throughout the song that I have not transcribed. I don't think the phrase "poor boy" in verse 5 is right. Any help would be appreciated. Here is "Ball And Chain Blues":
I laid in jail, back turned to the wall (2) Says, a Georgia woman was the cause of it all
They arrested me, carried me 'fore the judge They arrested me, they carried me 'fore the judge Said, the judge wouldn't allow me to say a mumbling word
I asked the judge, "What might be my fine?" (2) Said, "A pick and shovel, deep down in the mine"
I told the judge, "I ain't been here before" I told the judge, "Ain't been here before" "If you give me light sentence, I won't come here no more"
"Mr. Judge, Mr. Judge, please don't break so hard" (2) I've always been a [poor boy?], never had no job
And the next day, carried the poor boy away The next day, they carried that poor boy away Say, the next day, I laid in ball and chains
Take these stripes off my back, chains from 'round my leg Stripes off my back, chains from 'round my leg This ball and chain about to kill me dead
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 08:09:44 AM by Johnm »
Hi all, Yet another early Peg Leg Howell solo number was his "New Prison Blues". He played it in E, standard tuning, and as with "Fo' Day Blues", the accompaniment seems to hint at things to come in many future E standard tunes. Also like "Fo' Day Blues", it moves into a 16-bar format while being primarily a 12-bar blues. Certainly the most striking feature of the song is the grisly opening verse. It is hard at this time to imagine the place for such a verse in a popular music with a primary function of entertainment. Certainly, you encounter really tough verses in this music from time to time, but this one seems particularly ghoulish. There is nothing in the performance that indicates Peg Leg intended it to be construed in a humorous light; rather, he sings it with the flat emotional affect of an Old-Time singer like Dock Boggs doing a murder ballad.Peg Leg's verse four (the one he goes 16 bars on) is one of my favorite blues verses. Here is "New Prison Blues":
Says, I'll cut your throat, mama, drink your blood like wine I'll cut your throat, mama, and drink your blood like wine Say, you can't quit me and t'ain't no need of tryin'
I'm goin' up the country, mama, swear the time ain't long I'm goin' up the country, mama, I swear the time ain't long Don't believe I'm leavin' count the days I'm gone
I stood on the corner 'til I got soakin' wet I stood on the corner, brownie, 'til I got soakin' wet I bowed my head at every brown I met
I stood on the corner, looked two blocks and a half (3) I didn't see my rider, but I'm sure I heard her laugh
Sayin', I don't want no woman got hair like drops of rain I don't love no woman got hair like drops of rain Says, the woman I love got hair like a horse's mane
Mama, if you don't want me what makes you whine and cry? (2) You called me sweet daddy when you see me passin' by
When you see me comin', mama, heist [sic] your window high (2) When you see me leavin' hang your head and cry
I'd rather drink muddy water, sleep in a hollow tree (2) Than to hear my fary say she don't want me
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 08:10:43 AM by Johnm »
Certainly the most striking feature of the song is the grisly opening verse.? It is hard at this time to imagine the place for such a verse in a popular music with a primary function of entertainment.? Certainly, you encounter really tough verses in this music from time to time, but this one seems particularly ghoulish.? There is nothing in the performance that indicates Peg Leg intended it to be construed in a humorous light; rather, he sings it with the flat emotional affect of an Old-Time singer like Dock Boggs doing a murder ballad.
Says, I'll cut your throat, mama, drink your blood like wine I'll cut your throat, mama, and drink your blood like wine
John, you and I have had discussions about these kinds of lyrics before - particularly violence against women in old blues lyrics, and especially out of context, throwaway lines - and have agreed that, for ourselves, there are certain things we can't imagine singing. This line has always struck me as so ghoulish as to be poetic, albeit in the darkest way. I could see incorporating it into a bad man ballad or murder ballad somehow. It is a pretty astonishing image regardless of what era you're in. I have a vague recollection of a similar line appearing somewhere else from another CB artist. I can't recall and could be mistaken.
Anyway, if I was a woman, this is not a guy I'd be looking to date... Yikes!
I'm gonna cut your throat, baby, look down in your face(2X) Hey, gonna look down in your face I'm gonna let some lonesome graveyard be your restin' place
'Course it was violence against men in that situation. Is that any different?
And how the hell are any of us gonna sing Tired of Bein' Mistreated? I guess Clifford G at least has some justification, or is singing his frustrated fantasy which would never really be carried out? I'll try to post the lyrics to both versions later this week and we can discusss this in that thread, as it seems a little OT here. All for now. John C.
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That's a pretty spooky and nasty one as well. But I was thinking of the combination of throat-cutting and drinking the blood like wine. Clifford Gibson has a throat-cutting line in Tired of Being Mistreated #1. #2 is much milder as I recall.
Hi all, It is over a year since this topic was posted on, but I realized after all the recent listening I have been doing to Peg Leg Howell's music that I might be better equipped to get the lyrics now than when I first attempted it. Sure enough, I think except for the line in bent brackets, I'm pretty sure I've got it now. Here is "Moanin' and Groanin' Blues":
Verses 1 and 2--moaning and groaning in harmony
My gal's in trouble, my gal's in trouble, I've seen trouble, too My sweet mama's in trouble, from the love of you That's the reason why you hear moanin' like I do
Verses 3 and 4--moaning and groaning in harmony
Gonna get me a fary, gonna get me a fary, train her to my hand, oh Lord Gonna get me a sweet fary, train her to my hand If I can't find a brown gonna do the best I can
Any improvements/refinements are most welcome.
Edited 8/24 to pick up corrections from John Dodson All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 08:13:00 AM by Johnm »
Hi all, Another particularly interesting Peg Leg Howell solo number is his "Fairy Blues". It was recorded at the same session as his "Low Down Rounder Blues", immediately following it, and shares much of the same sound, as well as the enigmatic C position tuning. Judging from the lyric, and from other songs he did, he rated "baby ways" very highly in a lover. I really like the use of the verb "tip" in verse two. It shows up in a lot of country blues lyrics, and seems to have such a context-specific meaning--to move furtively to an illicit assignation, or return furtively from such a rendezvous. The last line of verse two sounds like rationalization. Whatever. Here is "Fairy Blues":
I got a lovin' sweet fary, she treats me nice and kind (2) She treats me so lovin', she satisfy my mind
She may be your gal, but she tip to see me sometime (2) She sleeps with you but she got me on her mind
SPOKEN: Who's the man with the baby ways? Must be Papa Peg. The womens pet and the mens hates it.
She's low, she's squatty, she got baby ways (2) She got Elgin movements, sure will make you raise
Mama, mama, sweet mama, see what you done done Sweet mama, sweet mama, see what you done done You've caused me to weep, caused me to leave my home
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 08:15:17 AM by Johnm »
I get a little different take on the first verse - with some uncertain areas as well - see what you think:
My gal's in trouble, my gal's in trouble, I've seen [or I've been?] trouble, too much My sweet mama's in trouble, Oh I'm in trouble too And the reason I worry is [honey] like I do