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Offline Chezztone

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2006, 01:41:59 PM »
Sheesh. OK, let me address this again. Y'all, the ones I know anyway, don't strike me as yuppie-wannabe blues players. Although even a yuppie-wannabe blues player with any sense, rather than spend $20 to pay some English bottleworker to cut and polish a slide for him (and another $10 for him to ship it?), would buy a $20 bottle of wine, drink it, and cut the neck off. But a real blues player would spend the $20 on four or five bottles of cheap wine (or on beer or liquor and find the wine bottles) and then have several to ruin before making the good one. Try it, at least, before you send for the high-priced model. Cheers, Chezz

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2006, 10:48:38 AM »
"Yuppie-wannabe blues player", wow! While I would take exception to the classification of yuppie (perhaps waterlogged old surfer would be more accurate), I guess you could count me among the wannabe blues player category. Ever met a musician who doesn't wannabe a better player? Even Bob Brozman (who most would agree is a pretty good blues player) said in a workshop a couple of days ago that he considered himself probably an advanced player who is still learning.

That being said, and admitting that I do like toys (surfboards and guitars) that perform, Ian McWee from Diamond Bottlenecks just sent me one of his new Evolution slides (a combination of stainless steel and glass). While almost anything you can scrape across the strings works as a slide, this new Evo slide has a tone, feel and balance like no other slide I have used. The glass side has a unique tone while the stainless side sounds more like typical stainless slides. With all the money we spend on guitars, the investment to try different slides is minimal in my opinion.

I bet if I did drink a few bottles of cheap wine before playing I probably would think I am a real blues player. To each his own!

Gary
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Offline Chezztone

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2006, 10:46:59 AM »
Oops. Didn't mean any offense with the "yuppie-wannabe" line; I said the people I know on here are NOT of that description. But regarding cutting your own slides: my point is that there is a lot of fun and satisfaction in making your own musical equipment. Most of us are not up to making our own guitars (although even a klutz like me has made some nice diddley-bows and even taught others to do it). Cutting your own slide from a wine bottle is a wonderful way to make a simple but very effective piece of musical equipment with your own hands. And it gives you a feeling of connection to the early blues players who did the same. If you like ordering from catalogs, go ahead, but I recommend you try at least once to make your own slide. And I bet you'll love using the one you make. Cheers and be careful! Chezztone

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2006, 03:02:57 PM »
I've been cutting my own bottle-necks since 1979.
I can snap one off clean as a whistle, perfectly straight and have it polished up in a few minutes.
I've tried all kinds of slide's over the years, but nothing comes even close to a bottle-neck, IMO.

Until,,,,,,,

Ian McWee sent me a Diamond Ultimate, lead crystal slide.
I'm not going to rave on about it, all I'll say is its the best slide I've ever used.
Much better than any bottle-neck, and I've had some beauties.
It's amazing!

Jonas A

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2006, 06:15:22 AM »
I used to be quite conservative as for slides. The first one I made myself some 35 years ago, from a piece of scrap copperpipe that I found in my granddads backyard. Since then I've acquired loads of different slides and bottlenecks and pyrexslides etc. An none have really been to my liking, perfered the copperpipe till I lost it. About a year ago someone introduced me to Ian of Diamond Bottlenecks and I ordered two. Nice they were and nicely they played. But not outstanding. When I started recording in late March I actually brought along my old pyrex-slide (which I'd earlier swored upon never to use again). Don't ask me why I brought it along. I'm a superstitious guy and I guess there was a meaning to it. When I recorded the Gminor jam Troubled Mind (www.soundclick.com/jonasa) I used the pyrex with my '31 Triolian. And listening back to the track - well, in my humble ears it sounds really OK.

Then Ian sent me one of his new Evo-slides which I received only a few weeks ago. Now: This is the best slide I've ever used. Only using the glass-side, the added weight due to the stainless steel makes the tone bloom. I'm not kidding. I would say the difference as for tone and sustain, equals the difference between a singlecone and a tricone resonatorguitar as for tone and sustain.

Having said that - I'll still use the pyrex. Atleast untill I get fully acquainted with the Evo. It's a bit like learning to drive a Ferrari when you're used to a Ford...  :D

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2006, 01:20:37 PM »
Ian at Diamond Bottlenecks is the kiddie and he has made me a couple of specials for lap as well.
(That's enough of that. Ed)

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2006, 02:52:45 PM »
Hi All ;) The good Mr. T (..that's Richard - not the guy from the 'A-Team'..) dropped me a line to tell me that our glassware was being mentioned in high esteem on these fine pages - so i register and find many of our customers...and good friends also...posting here :D

So a big 'Hi' and 'thank you' from Ian and the Diamond Crew to all the folks here for giving us such wonderful endorsements of our slidin' glassware..Y'all keep in touch with us please, and if any good folk here need information or help regarding all things 'slidey', please don't hesitate to shoot me an e-mail, or call via our website and i'll be most happy to assist. 

Hey Norfolk Slim........see you guy's next season - D'oh! ::)

Happy Slidin'

Ian.

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2006, 12:45:48 PM »
Welcome Diamond!

I hate to tell you guys this -- but slides that are worn on the fingers are obsolete.  No more debates on which is the best finger to wear a slide either.  Check it out:

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2006/05/teaspoon2.mpg

Any glass teaspoon models?

boots

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2006, 01:42:44 PM »
Nice one Slack.

Can you find a lap player using a ladle ???  >:D

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2006, 08:46:41 AM »
Thanks for the warm welcome Slack ;D Boy, isn't that a great way to play slide!! I'll ask around our glass factory for spoons (but i'll most likely be kicked out as a crazy dude  :o)

Happy Slidin'

Ian.

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2006, 09:17:41 AM »
Boots, we don't just use ladle's, we use the whole tureen  8)

Can get messy though when slants are involved  :-X
(That's enough of that. Ed)

Michael Segui

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2007, 09:46:52 AM »
I have made my own bottlenecks... have tried brass, bronze, wine bottles, porcelin, ceramic, chrome, lead crystal... etc...

Right now I pretty much only use bottlenecks from Ian at Diamond Bottlenecks as well as his lead crystal Ultimates. 

leonard

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2007, 05:36:21 AM »
Just made a slide out of a deer antler.It really has a nice tone.Feels good on the strings too.  I think a bone one is next.

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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2007, 08:19:47 AM »
Lenny,

can you give us some input on how you went about making that slide from antler?  I have a friend who hunts and think I could get ahold of an antler segment...sounds fun and unique.

I'm also intersted to hear how a bone one would sound

Cheers,

Blue
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Re: Type of slide?
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2009, 01:37:51 AM »
They should be that the slide is 2 inches long and has a bevel at one end so that it sits comfortably into the gap at the base of the pinky so that it will make a best sound.

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