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Offline poymando

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Photographs of blues artists
« on: April 29, 2012, 05:12:21 PM »
I've been wondering recently about how many undiscovered photographs of pre WWII blues artists might be floating around out there undiscovered. The recent discovery of the Honey Boy Edwards footage from  the Lomax field trip to Clarksdale as well as the great photos (new to me) of the Memphis Jug Band that appeared in Life magazine in 1940 have got me wondering if there is still stuff to be discovered out there. Obviously, lots of researchers have been hunting for images like this for a long time but having had time to work with music archives and realizing the sheer quantity of materials that are out there. I wonder what still might be out there yet to be found...
 

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 10:32:06 PM »
I'm sure there are many treasure yet to appear. For instance I believe as fervently as Linus believes in the great pumpkin that there must exist some tourist's amateur movie of a certain Blind Atlanta Twelve String guitar player busking in a parking lot, hidden away in a shoe box in an attic in Shaboygen.
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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 12:02:40 AM »
The recent discovery of the Honey Boy Edwards footage from  the Lomax field trip to Clarksdale as well as the great photos (new to me) of the Memphis Jug Band that appeared in Life magazine in 1940...
Honeyboy footage? Where and when will this become available, does anyone know? I wasn't aware that Alan Lomax had used a movie camera on his Mississippi field trip. Does this mean that there could be some film of Son House and his band?
The possibility of further discoveries is a tantalising prospect, but I won't hold my breath.

PS. I just found this thread after posting here: http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8579.0
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 12:18:14 AM by Stumblin »

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 04:45:05 AM »
The two volumes of the Frog Blues And Jazz Annual have done a good job of printing lesser-known photos, many of which I had not previously seen.  For example, Volume 2 has several photos of Kokomo Arnold, taken from newspaper advertisements, which were new to me. 

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, those Frog annuals are worth the money.  If you don't have them, you should.

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 07:11:42 AM »
Does this mean that there could be some film of Son House and his band?
The possibility of further discoveries is a tantalising prospect, but I won't hold my breath.

I had the same initial thought, but the Honeyboy footage was never "lost," per se, just mislabeled as "Charles Edwards."  Based on the content of the film reel (below, from the LOC website), there would seem to be no Son House footage:

 MOVING IMAGES
 
 
 Location       Contents
 
                LWO 33925
                5 minutes and 33 seconds of the Fisk University
                Mississippi Delta Collection. Motion picture footage
                taken by Alan Lomax during his research in 1942. The
                original footage is located in the Motion Picture,
                Broadcasting, and Recorded Sound Division of the
                Library of Congress. The original footage from this
                collection was shot in black-and-white (actually, this is in color - editor's note!), without
                audio.
 
                The film footage for this collection is located on a
                standard videocassette. The footage begins at 30.50
                and ends at 36.23 when videocassette begins at 0:00
                on a standard VCR. The following log is based on a
                document listing the scenes in this motion picture
                footage entitled "Coahoma County, Mississippi, 1942"
                that can be found in folder 6.
 
 
 
           30.50     State Missionary Baptist Convention" Crowd - Song
           Salesman of the Bowles Music Co.
 
           Children's Games, Friars Point, Mississippi
 
 30.12     A. "Sally Walker"
 31.41     B. "Pulling the Skiff"
 32.02     C. "Merrimac"
 
           Children's Games and Songs, Coahoma County Training School
 
 32.15     A. Long shot of "Lazy Motion"
 32.29     B. Close-up of "Lazy Motion"
 32.39     C. "Take Your Outside Partner"
 32.50     D. Long shot of "Down by the Green Apple Tree"
 32.57     E. Long shot of "How many miles to Bethlehem?"
 33.06     F. "Who' de cat?"
 33.07     G. "Hop burr Rabbit in the Pea-Vine"
 33.15     H. "Foot movements for G."
 33.25     I. "Good Ole Man"
 33.35     J. "Satisfy"
 33.42     K. "Pulling the Skiff"
 33.49     L. "Shoo Fly"
 33.56     M. "Did You Ever See a Monkey do the Motion?"
 34.05     N. Untitled
 34.15     O. "London Bridges Falling Down"
 
 
 
           Children's Games on Plantation in Northwest part of
           Coahoma County
 
 34.29     A. Untitled
 34.34     B. Bopping
 34.43     C. Untitled
 34.49     D. Rope Skipping
 35.01     E. "Pulling the Skiff"
 35.12     F. Untitled
 35.15     G. Untitled
 35.19     H. Buck Dance by an Old Man
 35.42     I. "Chicken Scratch"
 
 35.47-36.23    Charles Edwards, playing guitar and harmonica
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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 09:31:16 AM »
The two volumes of the Frog Blues And Jazz Annual have done a good job of printing lesser-known photos, many of which I had not previously seen.  For example, Volume 2 has several photos of Kokomo Arnold, taken from newspaper advertisements, which were new to me. 

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, those Frog annuals are worth the money.  If you don't have them, you should.

+1. I have have them both. :)


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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 11:53:51 AM »
Mack McCormick apparently has in his possesion a third photo of Robert Johnson taken on the same day as the one where he wears the pin-striped suit. I would't be surprised if he has alot more of so far unpublished pictures. I was blown away by the Blind Willie McTell photo johnleepimp posted earlier this year.




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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 02:45:15 PM »
Oh yeah... is anybody able to make verification/corrections on this photo's personnel

I'm not sure of the source but I'm guessing it's in a book out there on somebody's shelf - and hopefully they've access to a scanner
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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 04:32:47 PM »
The photo is from Big Bill's Blues, Bill Broonzy's "autobiography" as told to Yannick Bruynoghe.  It's on page 127 of the 1992 Da Capo edition of the book. 

That certainly is Washboard Sam on the far right.

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 07:33:52 PM »
Says "William Mitchell" for the washtub bassist, not "McTell"!

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 03:56:11 PM »
years ago i saw a picture online of willie mctell at a childrens bday party in the 50's, does anyone have a scan of that?? i would love to see it again.
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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2012, 10:51:11 PM »
years ago i saw a picture online of willie mctell at a childrens bday party in the 50's, does anyone have a scan of that?? i would love to see it again.
Could you be thinking the photo taken in 1955 of BWMcT with his adopted daughter with a group of friends posted here fifth down?:

http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8427.0

If so, it was one of several loaned to David and Cheryl Evans by Hazel McTear in 1976 and appears on page 19 of the (almost) LP sized booklet which accompanied JEMF 106 The Atlanta Blues.

The other discussion speaks for itself
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 02:15:50 AM by Bunker Hill »

Offline Gumbo

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 01:01:30 AM »
can you check the link there Bunker hill

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Re: Photographs of blues artists
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012, 02:18:10 AM »
can you check the link there Bunker hill
How weird. Gremlins must have got in, was fine before posting.

Anyway I've now replaced what was there with the correct one....and tested it.

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