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Title: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: motmot on June 10, 2004, 06:15:54 PM
Greetings!? First post, so please pardon any errors of protocol.
I've been working on the Sheiks' Lazy, Lazy River, and thought I'd share my progress, and invite others to comment, correct, chip in, whatever.
I've been focusing on guitar first, and later hope to attempt the fiddle part.

It sounds to be in Eflat.? I first tried it out of C fingering with capo at 3rd fret. But after noticing that low bass note at the "followed every rainbow" line, I put the capo at the 1st fret and played it out of D fingering. That also lets you do the bass-line walk down from the B chord to the E chord after "looked up in the moon."? I'm still trying to figure out whether that Bflat chord is right, or what shape it ought to be.

Anyway, here, as best I can figure or guess, more or less, are the lyrics and the general chord progression (I hope the spacing translates when I post):

https://youtu.be/Rz7Z5Xqmqis

D
I've been through all day, just walking here on borrowed ground.
A?
I've looked beneath the daisies, my pal could not be found
D
She's down the lazy river, & I'm just lost from you
E
That's the only place between heaven and earth
?A
that I long to get
D? Bflat? G
When I find that river, that lazy, lazy river
D? A?D
Then my life will be complete
?Bflat?G
I searched the whole world over, I've slept out on the clover
D?A?D
Hoping that the (?rest?) might see
F#? B
I searched beneath the daisies, and looked up in the moon
E?A?
I followed every rainbow, and I hope to be there soon
D?Bflat?G
When I find that river, that lazy, lazy river
D?A? D
Then I'm coming home for you

[about 32 bars of instrumental]

D? Bflat? G
If I could find that river, that lazy, lazy river
D? A D
Then my life would be complete
D?Bflat? G
I searched the whole world over, I've slept out in the clover
D? A? D
Hoping that the (?rest?) would be
F#? B
I searched beneath the daisies, and looked up in the moon
E?A?
I followed every rainbow, and I hope to be there soon
D? ?Bflat?G
When I find that river, that lazy, lazy river
D?A? D
Then I'm coming home for you
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on June 10, 2004, 07:37:40 PM
Hi MotMot - this is one of my favorite MS tunes.? I once tried to get an old-time fiddler I know to parse it and he nearly lost it when it sounded in Eflat.? I don't think he ever really recovered from the experience...

It's hard to preserve the relationships between the words and the chords with variable width text - try using the pre tags:

Code: [Select]
[pre]
D
When I find that river

?E? D
That lazy, lazy river

A?D
Then my life will be complete
[/pre]

Now for real:


D
When I find that river

?E? D
That lazy, lazy river

A?D
Then my life will be complete


Anyway, I definitely agree that Walter Vincson is playing out of D position, either capoed or tuned up about a half step.? I don't hear the Bflat or the G chord, though.? As you can see in the example above, what I think I hear is that WV goes to an E chord (1st position), but strums no strings below the 4th.? In other words, strums from the 4th string (2nd fret) to the first string.? Then he returns to the tonic (D).? It's true - there's a Bflat in the melody.? You could even say that the vocal/fiddle line arpeggiates a Bflat chord.? WV plays a D - them's the harmonizing breaks in CB, I guess .? I wonder if Lonnie Chatmon got as fussy about chords as some fiddlers I know...

Here's my take on the words - uncertainties in brackets:

I've been blue all day
Just walkin here on [borrowed] ground
I've looked beneath of the daisies
My pal could not be found
She's down that lazy river
And I'm just [lost from here] (lonesome here?)
That's the only place between
Heaven and earth I long to get

When I find that river
That lazy, lazy river
Then my life will be complete

I searched the whole world over
I've slept out on the clover
Hoping there to rest my feet

I've searched beneath of the daisies
And looked up in the moon
I followed every rainbow
and I hope to be there soon

And when I find that river
That lazy, lazy river
Then I'm coming home for you

Break

If I could find that river
That lazy, lazy river
Then my life will be complete

I searched the whole world over
I've slept out on the clover
Hoping there to rest my feet

I've searched beneath of the daisies
And looked up in the moon
I followed every rainbow
and I hope to be there soon

And when I find that river
That lazy, lazy river
Then I'm coming home for you

Great tune!? Welcome to the board!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: motmot on June 11, 2004, 07:42:56 AM
Thanks, Frankie, for the welcome.? Actually, I think you and I e-corresponded a few years earlier, after posting on the old woodshed, about trying to find people adventurous (or eclectic (and maybe other adjectives, too)) enough to try and transport Joseph Spence tunes to fiddle and/or banjo.? As somebody noted in another thread about "top of the heap," this particular heap may be small.

Thanks also for the observations about Lazy, Lazy River.? Lonnie Chatmon sured seemed to favor flat keys and closed positions (even when the tune was in C or G) that I haven't found easy or intuitive on the fiddle.? I haven't found many of the guitar parts easy or intuitive, either!

Your take on the lyrics makes a lot of sense, and as for the guitar, I'm eager to try the E chord voicing you've suggested.? The chord I was playing was a D note on 5th string at 5th fret, and the 4th, 3rd, and 2d strings at barred at 3d fret.? It may be I tried that because, in trying to make sense of the song, I ended up replicating melody on guitar, instead of thinking of it as a separate part.

To my ears, the chord progression for the first section (from "blue all day" to "heaven and earth that I long to get") was very different from the progression for the rest . . .? But, I look forward to another session, with the benefit of your thoughts.

Thanks again, and good to be here.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: uncle bud on June 11, 2004, 09:34:36 AM
This one's playing on the Weenie Juke right now. Great tune. Very unusual tune, the Sheiks doing a pop tune masterfully.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on June 11, 2004, 11:01:53 AM
Actually, I think you and I e-corresponded a few years earlier, after posting on the old woodshed, about trying to find people adventurous (or eclectic (and maybe other adjectives, too)) enough to try and transport Joseph Spence tunes to fiddle and/or banjo.? As somebody noted in another thread about "top of the heap," this particular heap may be small.

Sure is - glad you found your way here!? I think I remember that discussion about Joseph Spence on the banjo...

Lonnie Chatmon sured seemed to favor flat keys and closed positions (even when the tune was in C or G) that I haven't found easy or intuitive on the fiddle.? I haven't found many of the guitar parts easy or intuitive, either!

Do you think it'd be easier to render in D?? Seems a lot of fiddlers do that with tunes in flat keys.? Just about everybody that I know who plays Mineola Rag seems to play it in D rather than Eflat.? Playing in Eflat is probably good therapy, but is unlikely to get a tune like this into a session!

Walter Vincson's guitar playing can get pretty fancy, and even his "simple accompaniments" are sophisticated.

To my ears, the chord progression for the first section (from "blue all day" to "heaven and earth that I long to get") was very different from the progression for the rest . . .? But, I look forward to another session, with the benefit of your thoughts.

That's true - I think the chords you listed for that part and the Fsharp section are right on.? It was just the chorus that I was referring to specifically.? I guess the part where WV plays a D chord while singing a Bflat note could be thought of as combining to create and D+...?

Thanks again, and good to be here.

Glad to have you!

Very unusual tune, the Sheiks doing a pop tune masterfully.

The Sheiks definitely had some serious pop sensibilities.? Seems like their musical interests were all over the map, but it all sounds like the Sheiks...
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: HardLuckChild on June 12, 2004, 09:43:43 AM
I haven't listened to the song in a while, but I seem to remember hearing "I've slept out on the floorboards." I'll listen to the song today.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: nehi on June 13, 2004, 09:56:04 AM
I like the Bflat - especially as a Bflat7, since I like things as raggy as possible -- but I don't hear the G on "clo-VER" either. The more I listen to the recording, the more I'm convinced that we may never know the true nature of that "clo-VER" chord. Weird and great tune. One of my all-time favorites.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: motmot on June 13, 2004, 06:25:22 PM
After some listening this weekend, I agree with Frankie: I don't think there's a Bflat chord in there, and there's definitely not a G. 
I come away impressed with Frankie's ear, and with Walter Vincson's singing: pretty hard to sing a Bflat note over a D chord.
I haven't tried any of it on fiddle yet, but don't know that those particular fiddle lines would translate easily to the key of D.  My experience with other Sheiks tunes is that when the fiddle's playing out of a closed position, those particular fiddle lines don't quite translate to another position.  Of course, as a fiddler, I'm a barely passable guitarist ... (and vice versa)!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on June 13, 2004, 08:43:22 PM
Walter Vincson's singing: pretty hard to sing a Bflat note over a D chord.

Hell, yes!? I've been listening to it over the weekend as well, and am just amazed at how they took some relatively simple ingredients and made it into something genuinely sophisticated.

Just amazing what some guys can do with talent...? I can't imagine having the chutzpah to come up with an idea like that!

My experience with other Sheiks tunes is that when the fiddle's playing out of a closed position, those particular fiddle lines don't quite translate to another position.

You may be right - I've got my Kim interested in the tune & she's been toying with it in D.? Currently on the hit parade is the Lewis Brothers' Bull at the Wagon - once we can play that badly, we're going to move on to The GA Yellow Hammers' Rip Van Winkle Blues.? That plays out of E on the fiddle, which for all intents and purposes is a closed position, at least in the lower register.? If she can handle that, I think I'll suggest working LLR out in E flat.

Playing it in D would *definitely* make it more session-friendly, though...? unless you're trying to scare somebody off!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: motmot on June 14, 2004, 06:33:24 AM
Yup.  There's a lot going on in those tunes: chutzpah, genius, whatever.

I found it easier to sing that flat note when I added it to the chord.  When it was a D-shape chord, I added the third string at the third fret, and even got to like the dissonance.

But singing this melody in Dflat wasn't friendly for me, so I played around and eventually capoed on 2 and played out of G positions, to sound in A.   I added the flat note to the G chord by fretting the 4th string at the 1st fret.

While A's session friendly, for the purists, the sound may be getting a bit far from the Sheiks.

At sessions I've played along with Bull at the Wagon, but I don't really know it.  Rip Van Winkle Blues isn't familiar; I'll have to check my files.  But one of my favorites is the G Rag, by the Yellowhammers with Andrew Baxter -- although I play an easier (notier) B part from a version called something like WyZee Hamilton's Breakdown.

Cheers . ..
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on June 14, 2004, 07:54:43 AM
I found it easier to sing that flat note when I added it to the chord.? When it was a D-shape chord, I added the third string at the third fret, and even got to like the dissonance.

I was trying the same thing - I guess it's possible that he's doing that, too, but I can't say that I hear it.? Sure does make hitting the Bflat a lot easier

While A's session friendly, for the purists, the sound may be getting a bit far from the Sheiks

I don't know if I could sing it in A - D and Eflat works ok for me.? Have you tried playing the fiddle part in A?? That might be a challenge...

At sessions I've played along with Bull at the Wagon, but I don't really know it.? Rip Van Winkle Blues isn't familiar; I'll have to check my files.? But one of my favorites is the G Rag, by the Yellowhammers with Andrew Baxter -- although I play an easier (notier) B part from a version called something like WyZee Hamilton's Breakdown.

Here's a link to Rip Van Winkle Blues (http://www.donegone.net/sounds/rip_van_winkle_blues.mp3).? Maybe the only example I've ever heard of an old-time guitarist playing out of vestapol tuning and backing up a fiddler.? The guitarist is Melvin Dupree.? A few weeks back I was playing tunes with Clare Milliner & Walt Koken and got to talking about G-Rag variations.? Seemed like Walt was partial to Wyzee (Y.Z.?) Hamilton's - I like Andrew Baxter's... that's the one Kim and I play - badly!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: uncle bud on June 14, 2004, 08:34:46 AM
By the way, welcome to the board nehi and MotMot.  :)
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on August 25, 2004, 06:32:03 AM
Revised for the key of Eflat:

Eflat
I've been blue all day


Just walkin here on [borrowed] ground


I've looked beneath of the daisies

Bflat
My pal could not be found

Eflat
She's down that lazy river


And I'm just [lost from here] (lonesome here?)

F
That's the only place between

?Bflat
Heaven and earth I long to get



Eflat
When I find that river

?F? Eflat
That lazy, lazy river

Bflat? Eflat
Then my life will be complete



Eflat
I searched the whole world over

?F Eflat
I've slept out on the clover

Bflat?Eflat
Hoping there to rest my feet



G
I've searched beneath of the daisies

C
And looked up in the moon

F
I followed every rainbow

Bflat
and I hope to be there soon



Eflat
And when I find that river

?F? Eflat
That lazy, lazy river

Bflat? Eflat
Then I'm coming home for you

Break

Eflat
If I could find that river

?F? Eflat
That lazy, lazy river

Bflat? Eflat
Then my life will be complete


Eflat
I searched the whole world over

?F? Eflat
I've slept out on the clover

Bflat?Eflat
Hoping there to rest my feet



G
I've searched beneath of the daisies

C
And looked up in the moon

F
I followed every rainbow

Bflat
and I hope to be there soon


Eflat
And when I find that river

?F? Eflat
That lazy, lazy river

Bflat? Eflat
Then I'm coming home for you

The chords:

Eflat:

e-6--
B-4--
G-0--
D-5--
A-6--
E-6--

Think of it as C moved up three frets.? You could thumb the 6th string or alternate with your ring finger.? Very often, WV uses a smooth move to get from the Eflat to Bflat - a little slide down from the Eflat on the 6th fret A string, then gets the 1st fret low E string with his thumb and slide it up into the Bflat chord:

e-6--
B-6--
G-7--
D-8--
A-8--
E-6--

The F chord is the one you all know & love:

e-1--
B-1--
G-2--
D-3--
A-3--
E-1--

During the initial verse, it sounds like WV plays the full chord and moves the bass from the 6th to the 5th to the 4th and to the 5th strings.? During the "Lazy River" choruses, he may be fingering the full chord, but he only uses the bass note on the 4th string.

The G is the F moved up two frets and the C is a typical C chord, stopping the high E string at the 3rd fret:

e-3--
B-1--
G-0--
D-2--
A-3--
E----

WV likes his chords to have those bright treble notes up top as part of his strum, and the slides are always a little bit behind the beat - he never rushes.? Play and think supportively - bass - strum, bass - strum.? There's a zen quality to the simplicity - honest!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: Johnm on August 25, 2004, 09:11:13 AM
Good work, Frank!  I've always resisted being a completist, part of my formative years in this music when you might hear a new tune from some musician you really admired every couple of years or so.  It was a big deal.  In the case of the Sheiks, I'm going to have to make an exception, I can see.  Hearing you all talk about these great tunes I haven't heard makes me realize I need to hear them all.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on August 25, 2004, 09:23:14 AM
There's something else I just noticed about the tune - WV's vocal phrasing is slightly ahead of the beat, where LC's fiddle is either dead on the beat or slightly behind.  If you listen carefully, the effect is pretty amazing - like an echo or delay.  It takes real discipline to pull it off, too...  wow!  Makes we want to listen carefully to a few other tunes to hear how the vocal and fiddle lines relate.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on August 25, 2004, 09:28:17 AM
I like 'em a lot, although they do tend toward a certain repetetiveness.  One fiddler I know said "I love those guys - both tunes!"  I wouldn't go nearly that far, but I can see his point.  I think there's a lot of great stuff in there, plus I think they had a lot of class as musicians and even when they're borrowing one of their own themes, they bring something new to the table.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: uncle bud on August 25, 2004, 10:32:54 AM
A little repetitiveness, yes, but not that much. Listening to a compilation (like the Yazoo or the Catfish discs), one is struck by the sheer variety of material IMO. Listening to the Documents, all in a row (with the exception of Vol 3 in my case which is unavailable from Document right now, the bastards), yes, some repetition comes into play. (The same could be said of Lemon, even moreso). Although with material from Walter Vinson, Bo Carter, and Sam Chatmon there's still huge variety. And as Frank says, even when they repeat themselves, therre's an effort to be different, musically and lyrically: Stop and Listen no. 1 and 2, Overtime Blues and Church Bell Blues, even the bouncy boom-chang pop songs. I love 'em. Walter Vinson is one of the best CB lyricists, IMO. And when he's not playing, you get Bo or Sam. Serious depth. They're like a powerhouse ball team.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: motmot on August 25, 2004, 12:14:03 PM
< ... snip ...> vocal phrasing is slightly ahead of the beat, where LC's fiddle is either dead on the beat or slightly behind.? If you listen carefully, the effect is pretty amazing - like an echo or delay.? It takes real discipline to pull it off, too...? wow!?

That's an example of the tension that I was going on so about in the other thread (the kind of tension that I find sometimes to be frowned on by some (emphasize "some") in the oldtime community). (Please note all the qualifiers in there.)? Here, it's rhythmic tension.? But there's melodic tension in "LLR," too, in the note that WV sings on the second syllable of "river" in the "lazy, lazy river" line.? (If you do it in eflat, that note works out to be, what?, a b natural?)

As for the "both tunes" critique, I disagree; to my ears, they had far more than two tunes, or even two arrangements.? Perhaps any sense of repetitiveness is more a function of the pretty much same instrumentation (fiddle, guitar, and usually vocal) over lots and lots of recordings ...?
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on August 25, 2004, 12:44:39 PM
If you do it in eflat, that note works out to be, what?, a b natural?

Yeah, but you'd probably be stuck having to name it something weird like Cflat since it represents the flatted 6th of the scale, which would normally be C.  Same note in either case, of course.

As for the "both tunes" critique, I disagree; to my ears, they had far more than two tunes, or even two arrangements.

Please note that I said that could see his point, not that I agree.  He wasn't saying at all that they literally had two arrangements, simply that he found a lot of what they do to be "samey".  The same critique could be levelled at Blind Blake, if you think about it...  I don't agree in either case, but I listen for different stuff than the people who might think that about either the Sheiks or Blake.

Different strokes and all that...  even for them fiddlers...
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: motmot on August 25, 2004, 01:00:21 PM
The same critique could be levelled at Blind Blake, if you think about it...? I don't agree in either case, but I listen for different stuff than the people who might think that about either the Sheiks or Blake.

We're singing from the same page of the same hymnbook.

But now you've got me thinking about Cflats and flatted sixths ...

best,
Tom
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River - a fiddle question
Post by: frankie on January 05, 2005, 06:40:12 AM
I've been thinking about this tune because I was noodling around with the melody on a mandolin the other day.? Playing in E flat on the fiddle, when fingering the flat 6th note in the melody (lazy, lazy river), should the first finger or second finger be used?? Kind of an academic question, I guess...
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: Johnm on January 05, 2005, 01:44:30 PM
Hi Frank,
Does the flat 6 note in the melody resolve to the V note?  If so, seems like you would use the second finger for the flat 6 and the index finger for the V note.
All best,
John
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on January 06, 2005, 03:47:05 AM
Yes it does.? That fingering works for me - thanks!

Incidentally, I was thinking of alternative ways of harmonizing the chorus after talking about this song over the holidays.? I think this could sound pretty good, even if it's not what the Sheiks are pulling off on the record:

Eflat

When I find that river


?Aflat? Aflat minor

That lazy, lazy river


Eflat?Bflat Eflat

Then my life will be? complete

Kinda fits in with more typical pop harmony, and is the kind of move a few of the more sophisticated blues musicians would employ...
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: Johnm on January 06, 2005, 10:33:16 AM
I like the re-harmonization, Frank.  It sounds more "right" to me.  When doing Sheiks material it seems fine to embrace the more Pop elements of the music since they were so clearly into it.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on January 06, 2005, 11:20:26 AM
It's funny, but it dawned on me that the IV to IV minor movement is something that gets used in straight blues pretty often, but it's rarely (if ever?) so tightly knit to the melodic line.

The song came up while playing with a friend over the holidays - he was the one who suggested the IV chord, but followed it with a flat VI chord.  That follows the melody, but didn't move me all that much...  it sounded to jarring to me.  Took me a while to settle on the minor IV...  glad you like it - it definitely makes hitting that flat VI note in the melody a lot easier.  I dunno how WV did that while playing the I chord!
Title: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: Mark on March 14, 2005, 04:57:22 PM
Hey folks -

I've been trying to get the lyrics to this Sheiks tune written down, and I have one blank left in the third verse.? Would anyone care to take a stab at filling it in for me?? Any alternate ideas on the rest of the lyrics would also be appreciated.? This song is on "Violin Sing The Blues For Me".

https://youtu.be/4kBYvbWnl7c

When I left town this morning, I was on my way back home
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I left town this morning I was on my way back home
I heard the hoo-oo church bells making a hoo-oo mournful tone

I stopped to listen as the bells come clangin' on
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
I stopped to listen as the bells were clangin'(?) on
I know by that it somebody dead and gone

When I got home the people paid me respect
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I got home the people paid me respect
____?____ your sweet little hoo-oo faror's dead

When I got home I begin to scream and cry
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I got home I begin to scream and cry
I thought my little hoo-oo baby was too-oo cute to die

I went to the church house, cried at the door
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
I went to the church house, cried at the door
I never will see my sweet babe anymore.


Thanks,

Mark.
Title: Re: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: uncle bud on March 14, 2005, 05:40:10 PM
Hi Mark,

Pretty much dead on with a few minor points, IMO:

I stopped to listen as the bells come clangin' on

I stopped and listened as the...

Quote
When I got home the people paid me respect
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I got home the people paid me respect
____?____ your sweet little hoo-oo faror's dead

Cryin' 'Run here oooh-ooh, your sweet little hoo-oo faro's dead'

Quote
When I got home I begin to scream and cry
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I got home I begin to scream and cry
I thought my little hoo-oo baby was too-oo cute to die

I thought my little o-ooo-ld baby was too-oo cute to die
UB
Title: Re: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: frankie on March 14, 2005, 07:34:09 PM
I stopped to listen as the bells come clangin' on
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
I stopped to listen as the bells were clangin'(?) on
I know by that it somebody dead and gone

I hear this as:

I stopped and listened as the bells continued on
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
I stopped and listened as the bells continued on
I know by that it somebody's dead and gone

When I got home the people paid me respect
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I got home the people paid me respect
____?____ your sweet little hoo-oo faror's dead

This is what I have:

When I got home the peoples met me and said
Now don't you a-hear me talking pretty mama
When I got home the peoples met me and said
Now run here ooooh Walter, your sweet little faro's dead

verse 3:  WV introduces and "r" sound between the words "me" & "and".  I've heard this before either between words that have no intervening consonant sounds, or just syllables that lack a consonant sound - for example, "going" is often pronounced "goring".

verse 3:  faro - girlfriend.

The rest looks ok to me.
Title: Re: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: uncle bud on March 15, 2005, 07:22:53 PM
Listening again, I agree with Frank on all counts. Good ears, Frank, especially on that added 'r', which seems very clear to me now that you've pointed it out. The "continued" as well is more audible in the repetition than the first time round.
Title: Re: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: frankie on March 15, 2005, 09:09:13 PM
I think Bo Carter does the "r" thing a lot, too...  Once you hear it, it pops up all over the place.
Title: Re: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: waxwing on March 15, 2005, 10:49:30 PM
McTell uses it quite a bit: "You know howra poor man feels", etc. I heard  someone else do it very clearly on the juke today, but wasn't paying attention to who it was. I don't think it was very regional other than Southern Black, and I don't know for sure it wasn't used by whites as well. Any of you Old Time fans know of any instances?
All for now.
John C.
Title: Re: Stop and Listen Blues No. 2
Post by: Mark on March 16, 2005, 08:30:15 AM
Thanks for the input everyone.  I listened again after reading Frank's comments and I agree with his interpretation.  Now all I need is time to put it all together ...

Mark.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks: Lazy, Lazy River
Post by: frankie on April 22, 2005, 05:47:34 PM
A reharmonization that I hit on this weekend - looks weird, but sounds cool:


Eflat

When I find that river


     F          Aflat minor

That lazy, lazy river


Eflat             Bflat    Eflat

Then my life will be  complete


The II to minor IV looks weird, but sounds cool - more subtle than playing the major flat VI chord.  Totally nutty progression in any case.
Title: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bruno on November 02, 2005, 12:47:52 AM
Dear all,
Could someone help me ? I am looking for the lyrics of the Mississippi Sheiks' song "He calls that religion". The tune in on the "Stop and Listen" album (Yazoo). I am a non native English speaker and my level is pretty low. I only get the words of the chorus and can't figure out the verses.

https://youtu.be/ukHC4lXRohA

Thanks a lot in advance.
Bruno
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: mr mando on November 02, 2005, 04:10:17 AM
Bruno, I'm another non-english native speaker, but I googled up the following:

Well, the preacher used to preach
To try to stay atoned
But now he's preachin'
Just to buy jellyroll

Well, he calls that religion
Yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
But I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

It was at a church last night
Had desire to be
The old preacher
Was tryin' to take my wife from me

Oh, he call that religion
Yes, he call that religion
Well, he called that religion
I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

Preacher always
He was a mighty true man
He gives his commence
And he couldn't understand

Well, he calls that religion
Yes, he called that religion
Well, he called that religion
I know he goin' to hell when he dies

(guitar & fiddle)

'Oh yes, he calls that religion'

He will swear he's keepin'
God's command
Have women fussin' 'n fightin'
All over land

And then he call that religion
Well, he calls that religion
Well, he called that religion
But I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

Therein the people
Stopped goin' to church
They know that preacher
Was tryin-a do too much

But still he called that religion
Still, he called that religion
Well, he called that religion
But I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

Old Deacon Jones
He was a preachin' King
They caught him 'round the house
Tryin-a shake that thing

Oh, he called that religion
Yes, he called that religion
Well, he called that religion
But I know he goin' to hell when he dies

'Oh yeah, he calls that religion'.


I haven't listened to that song in a while, so I can't comment on the accuracy of this transcription.
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on November 02, 2005, 08:25:37 AM
A few changes I'd make:

Well, the preacher used to preach
To try to stay atoned

To try to save souls

Quote
It was at a church last night
Had desire to be

(I) Was at a church last night
Happy as I could be

Quote
Preacher always
He was a mighty true man
He gives his commence

He gives his commands?
And he couldn't understand

Quote
He will swear he's keepin'
God's command
Have women fussin' 'n fightin'
All over land

All over the land

Quote
Therein the people
Stopped goin' to church
They know that preacher
Was tryin-a do too much

"Therein" is certainly an unusual word to come across in country blues. But that's what I hear too. I also hear "They knowed" as opposed to "They know".

This is a great Sheiks song.

Oh, and welcome to WeenieCampbell, Bruno!
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bruno on November 02, 2005, 09:05:56 AM
Thanks a lot to you Mr Mando and Uncle Bud,
It's clearly a good and funny song.
All the best
Bruno
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: a2tom on November 02, 2005, 09:56:36 AM
One of my favorite Sheiks tunes.  Totally cracks me up, and you can't help but sing along.  Then again, that's true of most of their songs...  Too Long is another favorite.

BTW, I'm not lyrics expert, but I get:

The reason the people stopped going to church

tom
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on November 02, 2005, 10:23:20 AM
BTW, I'm not lyrics expert, but I get:

The reason the people stopped going to church

This makes a lot more sense. Good ear.
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bruno on November 06, 2005, 09:30:24 AM
Hello,

I have another e-conversation with a fellow on Ari Eisinger's Acoustic Blues Message board and my correspondant is not convinced about the third verse:
Preacher always
He was a mighty true man
He gives his command
And he couldn't understand

After listening again to the song, I wonder if the verse couldn't be something like :
Preacher always
He was a mighty true mind
He gaves his commands
That couldn't [be] understand

What do you think ?

Bruno
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on November 07, 2005, 07:06:46 AM
Hello,

I have another e-conversation with a fellow on Ari Eisinger's Acoustic Blues Message board and my correspondant is not convinced about the third verse:
Preacher always
He was a mighty true man
He gives his command
And he couldn't understand

After listening again to the song, I wonder if the verse couldn't be something like :
Preacher always
He was a mighty true mind
He gaves his commands
That couldn't [be] understand

What do you think ?

I don't know that I'd trust that guy over on Ari's board. He's a slippery fellow. ;)

Actually, he's right. The second couplet makes no sense to me. I think the original first two lines are correct but can't really say what the next two are, just they they sound like.
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: a2tom on November 07, 2005, 07:42:14 AM
I hear:

Preacher always he was a mighty true man
He gives his commands and/that he couldn't understand.

It has to be "man", not "mind", to rhyme with understand, I think (it's just drawled a little bit)

"that" makes more sense than "and", but I hear "and he"

"Commands" may not be the right word (especially since it would then be repeated in the song) but I can't come up with anything better.  Commence?  What's that?

This whole verse is a puzzler in that it doesn't seem to carry an obvious humorous payoff, unlike every other verse.  Most of it is plenty clear except that word "commands".  Perhaps it is wrong, and if we knew what the right word was it would be funnier!  What else would be giving that he couldn't understand, especially knowing that he's a mighty true man...

tom
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: waxwing on November 07, 2005, 08:54:34 AM
Seems to me the humorous implication would be that the preacher claims to be true, but then can't follow (understand) his own reading of god's (His) commands. As to what exactly the words are, I can't make any more out than any body else. I'll try to give another listen when I have time later.
All for now.
John C.
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: a2tom on November 07, 2005, 05:11:43 PM
Seems to me the humorous implication would be that the preacher claims to be true, but then can't follow (understand) his own reading of god's (His) commands.

ah!  Thanks John!  Duh!  All the difference a capitalization makes.

tom
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on November 07, 2005, 05:54:13 PM
I knew I'd seen a reference to this song somewhere recently in my reading, so checked Screening the Blues by Paul Oliver and sure enough there it was in the chapter called "Preaching the Blues", p. 51. Unfortunately, he discreetly leaves out the problematic verse. Thought you could sneak that one past us, eh Mr Oliver? ;) 

The differences in the transcription here thus far in Oliver's text:

Verse 1. "save our souls" in the 1st verse. I disagree and don't hear "our".

Verse 2. "Went from the church last night, fast as I could be." Again, I disagree, and hear "Was at a church last night, happy as I could be."

He skips verse 3. Dang!

Verse 4. "He will swear he's meeting God's command". I hear "keepin God's command."

Verse 5. "They reckon the people stop going to church". Could be "reckon". Although I think "The reason" makes more sense.

The Oliver essay is fascinating, examining both devout and satirical approaches to religion in blues, medicine show songs and gospel songs. The whole book is great for that matter...
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bruno on November 08, 2005, 12:13:33 AM
Hello,
Thanks to John C., Tom and Uncle Bud for the new comments. It becomes apparent that some blues songs are difficulty to understand not only for the ears of a Frenchman. The book Screening the Blues by Paul Oliver you mentioned seems to be very interesting.  Is it still available?
Bruno
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on November 08, 2005, 07:30:04 AM
Screening the Blues is indeed still available, from Da Capo Press, ISBN 0306803445.

Listed at Amazon in France: http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0306803445/qid=1131463179/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/171-8896254-5859466

Other essays in the book include "The Santy Claus Crave" (Santa gets a lot of press in the Blues, as it turns out), the "Forty-Fours" (examining the many incarnations of the piano piece through the blues repertoire), "Policy Blues" (policy games in the blues, and I still don't get how policy works), "Joe Louis and John Henry" (the prizefighter in the blues), and the big final chapter "The Blue Blues" (bawdy blues, obscenity, censorship, naughty bits etc.). Highly recommended, lots of lyric transcriptions, too.
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Yves on November 09, 2005, 04:30:23 AM
Hi Bruno

it looks that we are (at least) two French weenies ?

Where are you ?

Yves "the froggy"
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: GhostRider on November 09, 2005, 10:51:27 AM
Bruno and Yves:

If both of you had posted your pins on the Members Map, you'd know here you both were.

Alex
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bruno on November 09, 2005, 11:58:13 PM
Hello Yves and Alex,
I am sorry to clutter the subjet up with personal question but the fact is that I don't know what to do with the Member map. I can't see any map and only lists if commercial adverstisements and mails or, in the bottom of the page, a place for posting photos. As regards Yves's question I live near Paris.
Regards
Bruno
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Slack on November 10, 2005, 06:58:54 AM
If you are using a Mac -- they are "working on it' - so it is not quite ready for Mac computers.
Title: Re: Looking for the lyrics of "He calls that religion" by the Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bruno on November 10, 2005, 07:12:26 AM
Thank you Slack,
I am indeed using a Mac.
Title: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: nixpix on November 19, 2005, 08:50:58 PM
Now that I can play the chord progression to his song I'm tired of just humming the tune. What are the lyrics? Thanks

https://youtu.be/ApDByH-325E
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Bunker Hill on November 19, 2005, 11:52:40 PM
Now that I can play the chord progression to his song I'm tired of just humming the tune. What are the lyrics? Thanks
Being a dance tune the lyrics are totally repetative thus:

Spoken: No fooling now

Listen here, people, gonna play a little tune.
It's the jazz violin and the [Mississippi coon?].
It's too bad, it's too, listen to that old violin.
Pick up your fiddle and take up your bow.
This is a tune all fiddlers ought to know.
It's too bad, it's too bad.

Boys, there's something you never have seen.
A man playin' jazz on a violin.
It's too bad, it's too, listen to that old violin.
A quick finger and a shakin' bow.
A super heel and a tickle toe.
It's too bad, it's too bad.

Boys, there's something you never have seen.
A man playin' jazz on a violin.
It's too bad, it's too, listen to that old violin.
Quick finger and a shakin' bow.
A super heel and a tickle toe.
It's too bad, it's too bad.

Boys, there's something you never have seen.
A man playin' jazz on a violin.
It's too bad, it's too, listen to that old violin.
Quick finger and a shakin' bow.
Super heel and a tickle toe.
It's too bad, it's too bad.

There are apparently two takes of this but I don't know which I've transcribed - it's from a none too clean copy on an 80s Matchbox LP. So please correct as appropriate.
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: nixpix on November 20, 2005, 09:49:22 PM
Bunker Hill, thanks, that's just what I need!
-Nick
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: megapeg on February 08, 2006, 01:48:51 AM
That's not quite how I hear it.... here's my take:

Listen here, people, gonna play a little tune
It's the jazz version* of a Mississippi tune**
It's too bad, it's too... listen to that old violin
Pick up your fiddle and pick up your bow
This is a tune all fiddlers ought to know
It's too bad, it's too bad.

Boy, is this something you never have seen
A man playin' jazz on a violin
It's too bad etc.
A quakin' finger and a shakin' bow
A stoopin'*** heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad etc.

*Old Mississippi pronounciation of "version" would be "voy-zhun"
**This may be: It's a jazz version of "The Mississippi Coon" - anyone know of a tune by that name?  Certainly sounds like it could be the name of a tune, I'm just not familiar with one.
***"Stoopin'" is another old Southern dialectal phrase, meaning "stompin'".
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on February 08, 2006, 07:39:11 AM
Welcome to WeenieCampbell, megapeg. Thanks for the input on these lyrics. My ear agrees with your changes. It does sound to me like the line is "It's the jazz version of The Mississippi Coon." I couldn't find a reference to a song with this title (an exhaustive five minute Google search and a scan of the index of Paul Oliver's Songsters and Saints), but that's what I'm hearing. It certainly wouldn't be surprising that such a song exists. Oliver mentions several with similar titles. In addition to the obvious Mysterious Coon, and Traveling Coon, there's Hypnotizing Coon, and The Sensitive Coon. No doubt several others existed.
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: megapeg on February 08, 2006, 03:26:21 PM
Thanks for the welcome, Uncle Bud.  I stumbled here on a search for that ever-elusive line in "The Georgia Crawl".... I haven't been able to figure it out for the life of me.  "Don't even mind dyin'", "Don't need a bright dime", "Don't need to buy time".... who knows.  I saw the discussion, and still, none of them seem *quite* right.  Have you tried using the Amazing Slow-Downer to figure out lyrics?  You can change the eq a little bit to push the vocals up, and slow the song down without changing the key.... it's been a HUGELY helpful resource for me in figuring out some of these lyrics.  I'm not even a musician, my husband is, I was a linguistics major in college, though, so parsing songs has become my designated territory.   :P
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on February 08, 2006, 03:31:39 PM
I listened to this earlier today, but can't say that I quite agree about version, however it might be pronounced.  I don't have any plausible alternatives, and have always kinda moved past that verse as quickly as possible when singing it!  Sounds almost like there's a long 'i' sound in there after the word 'jazz'...  If I get a chance, I'll listen to the transfer on Folks, He Sure Do Pull Some Bow", which I think is cleaner than the one on the document CD I have acces to right now.

The other changes are great - never would have guessed "stoopin'"...

Hell, it's mostly a 'playing' song, anyway!
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on April 02, 2006, 06:54:12 AM
It's the jazz version* of a Mississippi tune**

I think what I hear in this spot is:

It's the jazz violin of a Mississippi coon
Title: Re: The Jazz Fiddler Lyrics - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: uncle bud on April 02, 2006, 12:07:58 PM
Listened again to that line repeatedly to the point of dizziness and my verdict is: too close to call.  :P

I think I'm hearing "violin" now but it could still be "version" (voyshun). And I can't say whether it' s "a" or "the" Mississippi coon. Moot, I guess, except for scholarly purposes, since this probably isn't a line you'd want to sing in performance.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on October 17, 2009, 08:07:53 PM
Hi all,
This is another new merged lyric thread.  As per usual, titles on posts other than the first in the merged thread have not been changed.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Honey babe let the deal go down
Post by: paulreso1 on June 12, 2010, 06:59:06 AM
Hi, I wonder if the collected wisdom of Weenie can help...I am working on the Sheiks' Honey babe, but I am not sure I have the lyrics quite right.  Here is what I have...I'd welcome any corrections...thanks in advance, Paul

https://youtu.be/h060G1haWI4

Honey babe, please let the deal go down
Honey babe, please let the deal go down
We can get the money, walk on down through town


I?m a stranger to you and you?re a stranger to me
I?m a stranger to you and you?re a stranger to me
If you would be my babe, how happy I would be


I have travelled until (I), travelled the whole world through
I have travelled until (I) travelled the whole world through
I ain?t found a woman. Looked as sweet to me as you

Now honey babe you got me troubled in mind
Now honey babe you got me troubled in mind
You keep me worried and bothered all the time

(inst)

I ain?t mean, I?m good as I can be
I ain?t mean, I?m good as I can be
Tell me sweet babe what thoughts you plan on me
Title: Re: Honey babe let the deal go down
Post by: frankie on June 12, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
Looks pretty good - I hear the last line as:

Tell me sweet babe, what FAULT YOU FIND OF me
Title: Re: Honey babe let the deal go down
Post by: paulreso1 on June 19, 2010, 11:33:03 AM
thanks Frankie - you got it...the corrected version is below
cheers,
Paul
Honey babe, please let the deal go down

Mississippi Sheiks


Honey babe, please let the deal go down
Honey babe, please let the deal go down
We can get the money, walk on down through town


I?m a stranger to you and you?re a stranger to me
I?m a stranger to you and you?re a stranger to me
If you would be my babe, how happy I would be


I have travelled until (I), travelled the whole world through
I have travelled until (I) travelled the whole world through
I ain?t found a woman. Looked as sweet to me as you

Now honey babe you got me troubled in mind
Now honey babe you got me troubled in mind
You keep me worried and bothered all the time

(inst)

I ain?t mean, I?m good as I can be
I ain?t mean, I?m good as I can be
Tell me sweet babe what fault you find of me
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on August 17, 2010, 07:09:24 PM
Just heard "The Jazz Fiddler" on the Juke and think I heard something:

In the oft-repeated verse:

Boys, there's something you never have seen.
A man playin' jazz on a violin.
It's too bad, it's too, listen to that old violin.
A quick finger and a shakin' bow.
A super heel and a tickle toe.
It's too bad, it's too bad.

I think it's supposed to be "A SUPPLE heel and a tickle toe," and Walter is pronouncing it "souple" instead of "supple".
Chris
Title: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: Cleoma on January 09, 2012, 11:51:14 AM
Here's what I have, there is quite a bit that I'm unable to get.  I've also been listening to the Walker's Corbin Ramblers version which has a cool blip in the timing.  I haven't put all the repeated refrains.

https://youtu.be/b8RIkdo7h_E

My baby keeps stealing that lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her soon
My baby keeps stealing that lovin? on me
I?m Gonna catch her just soon as you?re born

????
What made her .. there I sure don?t know
My baby keep stealing lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her soon.

Well She don?t steal silver
She don?t steal gold
Just hangs around the baker shop, steal jelly roll
My baby keeps stealing that lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her soon

I was settin in the corner just as still as a lamb
???? Back door slam
My baby keeps stealing that lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her soon

You better do your stealing while stealing is grand (?)
It will be all over when I get my mojo hand
My baby keeps stealing that lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her soon

Many thanks,
Suzy








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Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: Johnm on January 09, 2012, 12:05:03 PM
Hi Suzy,
Here's what I'm hearing:

  In that first lyrics break,
                                       I really pay the house
                                       I really buy the clothes
                                       What make her steal
                                       Now, I sure don't know

  In the later one,
                                       I was settin' in the corner
                                       Just as still as a lamb
                                       Wasn't too still to hear the
                                       Back door slam

All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: pkeane on January 09, 2012, 12:39:05 PM
Hi John & Suzy -

I am (maybe) hearing "I already pay the house, I already buy the clothes"  (already pronounced as 'ready ).  Which might make reasonable logical sense.

--Peter

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: Johnm on January 09, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Hi Peter,
I like your interpretation better than mine--it makes more sense.  Well done!
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: Pan on January 09, 2012, 04:08:25 PM
Could it be, that the repeated refrain ends "just as SURE as you were born"?

Cheers

Pan
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: Stuart on January 09, 2012, 04:36:04 PM
I just listened a couple of times and like John's first impression, I hear:

I really pay the house
I really buy the clothes

I'm hearing an "L" sound in there. "Really" could be used to amplify or intensify what's being expressed here and doesn't necessarily have to make more (or less) sense to us than 'ready. But in the end, it's a tough call.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: banjochris on January 09, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
I agree with Pan, definitely SURE as you're born.

I also hear "really" clearly in the first verse. Plus, the first line is "I really pay the house rent" - Walter swallows it a bit but it's there.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks "Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me"
Post by: Cleoma on January 10, 2012, 12:58:17 AM
Here's an amended version, incorporating all the suggestions.  I'm going with "really" rather than "ready".  I'm happy to incorporate further suggestions, but I think we pretty much have it.  Thanks,
Suzy

Baby Keeps Stealin? Sugar On Me
Mississippi Sheiks

My baby keeps a-stealing lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her soon
My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me
I?m gonna catch her just sure as you?re born
I really pay the house , I really buy the clothes
What make her steal, now, I sure don?t know
My baby keep a-stealing lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon.

My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon
My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her just sure as you?re born
Well she don?t steal silver, she don?t steal gold
Mess around the baker shop and steal  jelly roll
My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon

Oh step on it!

My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon
My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her just as sure as you?re born
I was settin? in the corner just as still as a lamb
Wasn?t too still to hear the back door slam
My baby keeps a-stealing lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon

My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon
My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her just as sure as you?re born
You better do your a-stealing while a-stealing is grand
It will be all over when-I-get-my mojo hand
My baby keeps a-stealing  lovin? on me, I?m gonna catch her soon

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Rivers on January 10, 2012, 06:17:51 PM
Thanks Suzy for posting the completed version. I took the liberty of merging this into an earlier MS Sheiks lyrics thread, hope that's OK.
I also set it up on weeniepedia, surprisingly we had no MS Sheiks lyrics on there until now: http://weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Baby_Keeps_Stealing_Lovin%27_On_Me (http://weeniecampbell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Baby_Keeps_Stealing_Lovin%27_On_Me)

Stefan needs to do a Sheiks discog...  ;)
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Penguhwin on July 18, 2012, 07:21:59 PM
RE: Jazz Fiddler

I believe the beginning is:

"Listen here people, gonna play a little tune, it's a jazz story about the Mississippi Coon it's too bad, it's too.... listen to that old violin."

It's sung a little clearer on take 1.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Rivers on July 18, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
Quote
Listen here people, gonna play a little tune, it's a jazz story about the Mississippi Coon it's too bad, it's too.... listen to that old violin

Agree with all of it except the 'story' phrase, I hear something like this:

Listen here people, gonna play a little tune, it's a jazz 'bout another Mississippi tune, it's too bad, it's too.... listen to that old violin

And welcome to the forum Penghuhwin.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on July 19, 2012, 09:34:48 AM
Pretty sure Frankie had it right a few years ago with:

It's the jazz violin of a Mississippi coon

Listen to the way Walter pronounces violin as vio-leen; he just changes the stress a bit in this line.
Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: uncle bud on July 19, 2012, 10:26:18 AM
Pretty sure Frankie had it right a few years ago with:

It's the jazz violin of a Mississippi coon

Listen to the way Walter pronounces violin as vio-leen; he just changes the stress a bit in this line.
Chris

I agree, frankie has it right. Walter is cramming the syllables of violin into a small space, pretty much dropping the 'o' and it comes out more like "vi'lin", and later "vi'leen". Pretty clear to me.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: crustypicker on January 18, 2013, 10:10:45 PM
I'm getting the guitar part down alright, but the lyrics are little hard to hear. Can anyone help?  Here's what i got so far:

https://youtu.be/Zm2rbzWW_ac

I Am The Devil

Yes I'm the devil, oh and I don't care none
Yes I'm the devil, oh and I don't care none
Said yea right the devil, I'm gonna take souls as they come

It has been time that you was done well
But you come down here you gonna catch some hell
Refrain:
Yes I'm the devil, oh and I don't care none
I said yea right I'm the the devil gonna take souls as they come

Goin' to town tonight all the way cross the city
The wind  blows on top [ ? ] those girls and and you know its a really pity.(or is it rarely beauty)
Refrain:
Yes I'm the devil, oh and I don't care none
Said yea right I'm the devil I'm gonna take souls as they come

Devil is a man in your face he'll grin
All he'll want you to do is just a little of sin
Refrain:
Yes I'm the devil oh and i don't care none
Said yea right I'm the devil gonna take souls as they come

Instrumental Break

Stayin all day don't get out until dark night is the time i get my business right
Refrain:
 yes im the devil oh and i don't care none,said right  the devil im gonna take souls as they come

Some start at twelve some start at two when you come to this place i know just what to do
Refrain:
yes im the devil oh and i don't care none,said yea rightthe devil gonna take souls as they come.

Anyone know them better? i missing a few words i think. >:D
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on January 18, 2013, 10:21:53 PM
Hi crustypicker,
If you format your lyrics beginning each line with a capital letter, typing each line that is sung separately rather than doing 2X at the end of line, and having breaks between verses, they will be easier to read, will more accurately reflect the way they were sung, and will be easier to transfer to Weeniepedia.  You've been asking for a lot of help--how about some help back?  Re the D7 or D at the beginning of the song, trust your ears, and keep listening until you can tell for sure what is being played.  Believe me, you don't need help to figure that out.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: crustypicker on January 18, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
sorry hope thats better
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: dj on January 19, 2013, 06:38:24 AM
Hi, Crusty,

I took the liberty of formatting the first half of I Am The Devil, up through the instrumental break.  The rest is left as an exercise for the student.   :P 
Title: "Shake Hands and Tell Me Goodbye" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Cleoma on August 11, 2013, 10:39:02 AM
Hi folks,
Trying to decipher another Miss. Sheiks tune -- any help appreciated, esp. with the last verse!

https://youtu.be/-Pt9-lzPjGg

I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don?t want you no more sweet baby, didn?t love me nohow
Last night, night before, I saw another man knocking on your door
I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don?t want you no more sweet baby, you didn?t love me nohow
I worked all the winter, winter was tough (weather was tough?)
With another man just a-strutting your stuff
I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye


I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I?m leaving this town tomorrow, no use to sorrow (sob?) and cry
I was good when you was sick, and good when you was well
?No use to pray when you get in hell
I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

I don?t want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I ???? I ain't got you
Still you pass me by
I worked all the winter, In the chilly wind
You giving your loving to the other men
I don?t want you no more sweet baby,  shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye


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Title: Re: "Shake Hands and Tell Me Goodbye" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on August 11, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
I worked all the winter, winter was tough (weather was tough?)

I hear 'winter' there, too.

I?m leaving this town tomorrow, no use to sorrow (sob?) and cry

I hear SIGH and cry

I ???? I ain't got you

I hear 'I done everything I could do'
Title: Re: "Shake Hands and Tell Me Goodbye" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Cleoma on August 11, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
Thank you Frankie, you da man.  Please give my best to Kim!
Title: "Baby Please Make a Change" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Suzy T on January 11, 2015, 04:00:50 PM
Trying to decipher the last verse, maybe the collective Weenie ear can help! Here's what I have. In searching the web for these lyrics I was astonished to find on Youtube a rendition by a trio consisting of Hugh Laurie, Tom Jones, and Irma Thomas.  Actually it is not as bad as I expected!  Not a Sheiks groove at all (and they really lose their rhythm towards the end) , but at least there is a fiddler.  Tom Jones is a pretty good singer, Irma Thomas is of course completely wasted on this but....Irma Thomas as your backup singer, just imagine!  Here's a link in case you want to check it out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMSxFcmiNGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMSxFcmiNGc)

https://youtu.be/XZ-dGGTkJaU

Okay now back to the business at hand, can anyone figure out the last verse?? 

Baby Please Make A Change

I beg you baby, both day and night
Please don?t scold me, just treat me right
CHORUS:  Baby please make a change, baby please make a change
Baby please make a change, I think it will do you good.

There?s a change in the ocean, and the deep blue sea
Be kind to your baby, there?ll be a change in me

 I have forgiven, all day and all night
I?m going I?m going, can?t you change my mind

BREAK

I tell you something, think it will do you good
You better get your man, out of this neighborhood

Darling I love you, and I ain?t mad
If I tell you again, it will keep you sad

I?m going away but I?ll, be back again
???????
Title: Re: "Baby Please Make a Change" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Johnm on January 11, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
Hi Suzy,
Happy New Year!  It sounds like he's singing:
   Bear this in mind, I'll be forever on your wind

I think the next-to-last verse is:
   Darling, I'm tellin' you, and I ain't mad
   If I tell you again it will be too sad

I have no idea what "forever on your wind" means!
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: "Baby Please Make a Change" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Gumbo on January 13, 2015, 04:28:34 AM
Nice! Somehow that last track of vol.3 didn't import onto my hard drive so this is a lovely surprise. A new Sheiks song :)
I agree with John on the next to last verse, applaud him on the 'bear this in mind' and suggest
6.2 'forever on your WAY'N ... baby please' for the last verse.

also verse 3 sounds like
I'LL HAVE FUNNY FEELINGS, all day'n all night
I'm going I'm going, IF you change my LIFE

(though the word life drops away it sounds like it begins with L rather than M)
Title: Re: "Baby Please Make a Change" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Suzy T on January 13, 2015, 09:11:53 AM
Gumbo, I'm thinking third verse is:
I'll have funny feelings, all day and all night
I'm going I'm going, can't you change my mind

John, I think you are spot on with "Bear this in mind" in the last verse, but I still can't figure out what comes after that.

Title: Re: "Baby Please Make a Change" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on January 14, 2015, 03:19:22 AM
Hi Suzy - this is what I have for this:

I begged you, baby, both day and night
Please don't scold me, just treat me right
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

There's a change in the ocean and the deep blue sea
Be kind to your baby, there'll be a change in me
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I've had a funny feeling all day and all night
I'm going, I'm going if it takes my life
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I'm telling you something, think it will do you good
You'd better get your man out of this neighborhood
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

Darling, I'm telling you and I ain't mad
If I tell you again, it will be too sad
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I'm going away but I'll be back again
Bear this in mind, I'll be forever [on your wend]
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I hear the weird word in the last line phonetically as "wend"..  if that is what he's saying, he might mean that he going but will always be on his way back... but it's a really strange usage of that word.
Title: Re: "Baby Please Make a Change" Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: Suzy T on January 16, 2015, 10:19:55 AM
Thanks Frankie, as always there with the Mississippi Sheiks lyrics!!  Really liking this song!  Let's try to connect and play some more music together when Eric and I come east in the spring.  Hope all is well with you and the kids.
Title: Bed Spring Poker
Post by: One-Eyed Ross on March 03, 2016, 11:46:44 AM
So, I'm going to take a go at Bed Spring Poker on the fiddle (I've been listening to Sure Do Pull Some Bow lately) and with the luck I've not been having on Miller's Breakdown I thought I'd ask for some help.

To my ear, it sounds as if this is in E flat.  As fine musicians as these guys were, that is possibly correct, and from the fiddle breaks it sounds (at least for the fiddle and my semi-tin ear) as though that is true.

For the lyrics, I've posted what I have. (edited to add changes recommended)  Anybody else play this, and have insights?



Bed spring poker is an awful thing
Most everybody loves to play that game
Bed spring poker is a ruination to many man
If you keep on playing it, you'll lose the last dollar from your hand

Most every man has a game in his home
Rather play somebody else's than to play his own
Bed spring poker is a ruination to many man
And if he keeps on playing it, he'll lose the last dollar from his hand

There's a brown skin woman lives out on a hill
Used to play for poker and she plays it still
Bed spring poker is a ruination to many man
And if he keeps on playing it, he'll lose the last dollar from his hand

fiddle break

spoken:  Man look at that old bed shaking
that's what you call bed spring poker

When she gets to playing it she plays it in a rush
You will have three aces but she will have a royal flush
Bed spring poker is a ruination to many man
And if he keeps on playing it, he'll lose the last dollar from his hand

There is a man, name is Bill
Used to play poker and he plays it still
Now, bed spring poker is a ruination to many man
And if he keeps on playing it, he'll lose the last dollar from his hand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JTIvRowGYg
Title: Re: Bed Spring Poker
Post by: frankie on March 03, 2016, 12:23:27 PM
Yes on E-flat - both guitar and fiddle.

That line is:

She used to play poker and she plays it still
Title: Re: Bed Spring Poker
Post by: One-Eyed Ross on March 03, 2016, 01:32:55 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Bed Spring Poker
Post by: frankie on March 04, 2016, 04:29:14 AM
A couple of other changes:

When she gets to playing it she plays it in a race
You get three aces but she gets a royal place

When she gets to playing it, she plays it in a RUSH
You WILL HAVE three aces but she WILL HAVE A ROYAL FLUSH

There is a man, name is Bill
Used to play for her and he plays it still

There is a man, name is Bill
He used to play POKER and he plays it still
Title: Re: Bed Spring Poker
Post by: One-Eyed Ross on March 04, 2016, 08:45:02 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on March 14, 2016, 06:40:23 AM
Hi all,
I merged Ross's recent thread on "Bed Spring Poker" into the Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics thread.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: One-Eyed Ross on March 28, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
So, in my quest to learn some Sheiks songs, I'm currently working on "If you don't want me please don't dog me around" since it is fairly straight forward on the fiddle parts.  For the lyrics, this is what my ear hears.....hopefully I am not too far wrong....

https://youtu.be/eWD9My_L-os

If you don't want me please don't dog me around
If you don't want me please don't dog me around
If you will do me wrong I'd rather leave your town
If you don't want me please don't dog me around

I'd rather be in a river floating like a log
I'd rather be in a river floating like a log
I'd rather be in a river floating like a log
Then be around you you treating me like a dog

He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man but he just done moved to town
Done sold his nuts and his out walking round

lay down your window and turn your lamp down low
lay down your window and turn your lamp down low
lay down your window and turn your lamp down low
Gonna make you love me baby just before I go

I ain't no milk man and I ain't no milk man's son
I ain't no milk man and I ain't no milk man's son
I ain't no milk man and I ain't no milk man's son
But I'll churn your butter until your milk man comes

Just cause you're in town you need not think you're wise
Just cause you're in town you need not think you're wise
Just cause you're in town you need not think you're wise
Cause I got something (that'll jab) {?} right between your eyes

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: frankie on March 28, 2016, 05:40:31 PM
Slight differences - got most of it:

If you don't want me, please don't dog me around
If you don't want me, please don't dog me around
Please, don't dog me 'round, I'd rather leave your town
If you don't want me, please don't dog me 'round

I'd rather be in the river, floating like a log
Rather be in the river, floating like a log
Be in the river, just floating like a log
Than to be 'round here, you treat me like a dog

He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man and he just done moved to town
Done sold his cotton, now he is walking 'round

spoken:  Oh, step on it.

And, let down your window and turn your lamp down low
Let down your window and turn your lamp down low
Let down your window and turn your lamp down low
Gonna make you love me, baby just before I go

spoken:  Oh, step on it.

I ain't no milkman and no milkman's son
I ain't no milkman and no milkman's son
I ain't no milkman and I ain't no milkman's son
But I'll churn your butter 'til your milkman come

Now, 'cause you're in town, you need not think you're wise
Just 'cause you're in town, you need not think you're wise
'cause you're in town you needn't think you're wise
'cause I got something, job right between your eyes

For getting familiar with flat keys, it's a good idea to start with B-flat. I'd also recommend learning "Lonely One In This Town" as it's basically a set piece and manages to lay out all the essential things you need to know about B-flat on the fiddle.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on March 28, 2016, 05:43:37 PM
Just an aside, but didn't Sam Chatmon sing this pretty?  He had a voice like a bell.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: One-Eyed Ross on March 28, 2016, 06:17:21 PM


For getting familiar with flat keys, it's a good idea to start with B-flat. I'd also recommend learning "Lonely One In This Town" as it's basically a set piece and manages to lay out all the essential things you need to know about B-flat on the fiddle.
Thanks for the changes.

I've been listening to all the Sheiks ones I can find lately, and plucking away at them (mostly because my fiddle was getting lonely).....
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Wilson on August 26, 2017, 06:20:15 PM
Just trying to get the lyrics down for "It?s Backfiring Now", any ideas for verse 3, 5 and 6.

https://youtu.be/YMfUkjFtFPA

My old car it won?t, run no more, it?s really backfiring everywhere I go
Oh it?s backfiring now, Oh it?s backfiring now
I ready want to use it, but it?s backfiring now

I had a sweet woman all, all alone all day,
anther man came and taken my good woman away
Oh it?s backfiring now, Oh it?s backfiring now
I ready want to use it, but it?s backfiring now

(solo)

These woman all said, ?.. (1.05)
but I can?t get a spark from my dog gone car
Oh it?s backfiring now, Oh it?s backfiring now
I ready want to use it, but it?s backfiring now

I lay down last night, feeling bad, singing of the good rags I once had
Oh it?s backfiring now, Oh it?s backfiring now
I ready want to use it, but it?s backfiring now

(solo)

Here about your call back, when my car wasn't due, (2.02)
I would ?? you, when the ..? for you
But it?s backfiring now, Oh it?s backfiring now
I ready want to use it, but it?s backfiring now

I take it to the mechanic, and the doctor too,
they say it costs two whole dollars, there?s nothing I can do
Oh it?s backfiring now, Oh it?s backfiring now
I ready want to use it, but it?s backfiring now.

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: frankie on August 27, 2017, 05:02:43 AM
It's Backfiring Now - Mississippi Sheiks

My old car, it won't it run no more
It's really backfiring everywhere I go
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

I had a sweet woman on the road all day
Another man come and taken the good woman away
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

spoken: Oh, fiddle that thing.

The women all said they like a Ford
But I can't get a spark from my doggone car
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

I laid down last night, feeling bad
Thinking of the good rides I once have had
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

spoken: Hey, man.

If I could call back when my car was new
I would do all of you women's driving for you
But it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

I taken it to a mechanic, and the doctor too
They say "Your car is too old, there's nothing I can do."
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Wilson on August 28, 2017, 12:50:09 AM
Thanks frankie
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:26:09 PM
I used to have all the lyrics to the songs of the Mississippi Sheiks and the other groups in their orbit on my website. The site kinda took a technical nosedive and while I maintain the domain, I haven't had the time to port the site to more up to date content management.

Whinging aside, I thought the best place for all of this would be at Weenie, anyway...  It'll probably take me a few days to post it all and there may be some duplication with existing posts.

The transcriptions include all the songs on the Document CDs devoted to the Mississippi Sheiks, Walter Vinson, Charlie McCoy and Mississippi String Bands and Associates.
Title: Driving That Thing - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:27:46 PM
Driving That Thing - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/NKnr5lMyPe4

Lyrics:
Old Uncle Bill, he was a working man
Laid down and died with his hammer in his hand
From driving that thing, whoa, driving that thing
All the lawyers in town talking about him driving that thing

Old Uncle Bill, he lived uptown
Driving that thing has done carried him down
Whoa, driving that thing, whoa, driving that thing
Even down to the judge is talking about him driving that thing

Uncle Bill called the doctor, "Come here quick!
I done got my hammer out of fix!
I can't drive that thing
spoken: Come on, doctor, come on!
I can't drive that thing
All the lawyers uptown talking about him driving that thing

spoken: Whoa, drive it!

Uncle Bill got the doctor, the doctor said
"Driving that thing is going to kill you dead."
Oh, driving that thing, whoa, driving that thing
Even down to the judge is talking about him driving that thing

Uncle Bill was [raggedy], clean out of sight
Every time you meet him he would want to fight
About driving that thing, about driving that thing
All the lawyers uptown is talking about him driving that thing

Stayed out last night, the night before
Come home this morning knocking on his door
He's just from driving that thing, he's just from driving that thing
Even down to the judge is talking about him driving that thing
Title: Alberta Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:28:35 PM
Alberta Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat (s)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/OUO-_kw9MDE

Lyrics:
Alberta, Alberta, where you been so long?
Tell me, Alberta, where you been so long?
Hasn't been no loving since you been gone

Alberta, Alberta, where'd you stay last night?
Tell me, Alberta, where'd you stay last night?
Come home this morning, sun was shining bright

If you see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
If you see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
Hasn't been no loving since you been gone

Alberta, Alberta, what you going to do?
Tell me, Alberta, what you going to do?
Just a little bit of loving, let your heart be true

spoken:  Whoa, step on it

I met Alberta, 'way 'cross the sea
I met Alberta, 'way 'cross the sea
Wouldn't write me no letter, she didn't care for me

Alberta, Alberta, be a pal of mine
Alberta, Alberta, be a pal of mine
And she left me walking, tears rolling and crying

I love Alberta, tell the world I do
I love Alberta, tell the world I do
Just a little bit of loving, let your heart be true
Title: Winter Time Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:30:50 PM
Winter Time Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/dagbFQasK74

Lyrics:
When the birds stop singing and the wind begins to blow
When the birds stop singing and the wind begins to blow
I was all outdoors, I didn't have my winter clothes

Now don't a man feel bad when he wakes up cold in hand
Now don't a man feel bad when he wakes up cold in hand
He won't have a dime to give the house rent man

I'm going to the post office to get some long distance mail
I'm going to the post office to get some long distance mail
I would catch the train I just haven't got the [geld]

It's so cold up north that the birds can't hardly fly
It's so cold up north that the birds can't hardly fly
They'll have to take their home, let this winter pass on by

spoken: Oh, step on it
spoken: Oh, [Miss Lula, lord.]
spoken: Just think about her only.

I'm staying in a house, I'd just as soon to be outdoors
I'm staying in a house, I'd just as soon to be outdoors
I'll have to go back south where the weather suits my clothes
Title: The Sheik Waltz - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
The Sheik Waltz - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: F/B-flat/E-flat
Fiddle position: F/B-flat/E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Xe577ni7qQI

Lyrics:
Instrumental
Title: The Jazz Fiddler - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
The Jazz Fiddler - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lyrics:
spoken: No fooling, now.

Listen here people gonna play a little tune
It's the jazz violin of a Mississippi coon
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
You got the fiddle and take out your bow
This is a tune all the fiddlers ought to know
It's too bad, it's too bad

Boys this is something you never have seen
A man playing jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger and a shaking bow
A stooping heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad, it's too bad

Boys this is something you never have seen
A man playing jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger and a shaking bow
A stooping heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad, it's too bad

Boys this is something you never have seen
A man playing jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger and a shaking bow
A stooping heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad, it's too bad
Title: Sitting On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:35:12 PM
Sitting On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/hBuK2ZOZq6o

Lyrics:
Was all the summer, and all the fall,
just trying to find my little all and all
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Was in the spring, one summer day
Just when she left me, she's gone to stay
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Needn't to come here running, holding up your hand
Can get me a woman, quick as you can get a man
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

It have been days, I didn't know your name
Why should I worry and pray in vain
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Going to the station, down in the yard
Gonna get me a freight train, work done got hard
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

The lonesome days, they have gone by
Why should you beg me and say goodbye
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world
Title: Stop and Listen Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:36:16 PM
Stop and Listen Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/PPgvoi0Gxbc

Lyrics:
Every day have been a long old lonesome day
Yeah, don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama, well
Day have been a long old lonesome day
Crying, seems like tomorrow is the same old way

Crying, smokestack's black, baby and the bell it shine like gold
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama, oh
Smokestack's black, bell it shining like gold
Crying, I found my baby laying on the cooling board

Don't a hearse look lonesome, mama, rolling 'fore your door
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Don't a hearse look lonesome rolling 'fore your door
Crying she gone, she gone, won't be back no more

Oh, stop and listen, hear how the bell did tone
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama, oh
Stop and listen, hear the bell did tone
I had a sweet little faro but she's dead and gone

Crying, followed my baby down to her burying ground
Now don't you-a-hear me talkin, pretty mama
I followed my baby to the burying ground
It was hackney horses standing all around
Title: Lonely One In This Town - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:37:28 PM
Lonely One In This Town - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/iv0BeS-drZU

Lyrics:
I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to pull me down
I'm lonely as I can be
I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to pull me down
I'm lonely can't you see?
Because I'm a stranger here
Everybody turned their back on me
I believe I'll go right back
Up in old Tennessee
I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to pull me down
I'm lonely as I can be

I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to throw me down
I'm lonely as I can be
I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to throw me down
I'm lonely can't you see?
Because I'm a stranger here
Everybody turned their back on me
I believe I'll go right back
Up in old Tennessee
I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to throw me down
I'm lonely as I can be

spoken: Get back, somebody.  Come on, let's go.

I'm the lonely one in this town
Everybody trying to throw me down
I'm lonely as I can be
Title: We Both Are Feeling Good Right Now - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:38:33 PM
We Both Are Feeling Good Right Now - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: B-flat

https://youtu.be/DNRmhwkE7q8

Lyrics:
Listen, I'm going to tell you men
A man's life is more than gin
But let me tell you what happened to me
When I was staying down in old Tennessee

I lived here half of my life
Without ever loving a wife
But when I found a girl to be mine
Now this life I'm living is [divine] [just fine]

Because I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We both are feeling good right now
I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We can't stop this feeling right now
When I first seen you, baby
Thought that you wouldn't do
Since I start to loving you
Don't want nobody but you
Because I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We both are feeling good right now
I mean baby
We both are feeling good right now

spoken: Oh, step on it

I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We both are feeling good right now
I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We can't stop this feeling right now
Now look-a-here baby
Gonna tell you the facts
The loving you give me baby
Is [] [alright]
Because I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We both are feeling good right now
I mean baby
We both are feeling good right now

I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We both are feeling good right now
I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We can't stop this feeling right now
Said the loving you give me baby
Surprised me
The loving you give me
Is gonna hypnotize me
Because I'm feeling good
You say you're feeling good
We both are feeling good right now
I mean baby
We both are feeling good right now
Title: Cracking Them Things - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:39:35 PM
Cracking Them Things - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: B-flat

https://youtu.be/6_hPQVY4dL8

Lyrics:
Uncle Tom downtown has got a peanut stand
Women all are crazy to see the peanut man
To get to cracking them things, oh, to cracking them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

He sold some peanuts and he sold some pecans
Women all bought them to crack the whole night long
About cracking them things, oh, you cracking them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

Uncle Tom has got a cracker where he lives
You can crack them things and they cracking them still
Lord they cracking them things, oh, they cracking them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

The women went to the doctor, the doctor said
Cracking them things is going to kill you dead
They gonna crack them things, they gonna crack them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

spoken: Oh, step on it

Women tell the doctor "Ain't gonna tell you no lie"
"Cracking them things kill us, won't you let us die"
We gonna crack them things, we gonna crack them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

Said the men these days is getting funny in mind
They don't love you and let you take your time
And go and crack them things, oh, go to cracking them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

Says old Aunt Sue lived uptown
Cracking them things has done carried her down
She's still cracking them things, oh, cracking them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things

Uncle Tom has got a stand way down in town
You know it's going to close him down
About cracking them things, oh, cracking them things
Said they really break the record when you come to cracking them things
Title: Grinding Old Fool - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
Grinding Old Fool - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: G

https://youtu.be/iA6sMf7XZC0

Lyrics:
Old Uncle Jack he's a grinding man
He do all the grinding, said, in the land
He's grinding them tools, oh, he's grinding them tools
He grind so many they all call him the grinding old fool

Old Uncle Jack has got a shop way down in town
He do all the grinding for miles around
He's grinding them tools, oh, he's grinding them tools
He grind so many they all call him the grinding old fool

The women brought him the tools, he grind 'em so fine
Want him to do the grinding all the time
He's grinding them tools, oh, he's grinding them tools
He grind so many they all call him the grinding old fool

spoken: Oh, step on it

He sent for a machinist to come here quick
"I done got my grinder out of fix!"
I can't grind them tools, oh, I can't grind these tools
I miss grinding so many they all call him this grinding old fool

Uncle Jack has got a way of holding the tool
Can't nobody do it unless it's a grinding fool
He's grinding them tools, oh, he's grinding them tools
He grind so many they all call him the grinding old fool

Uncle Jack told the women, "I'm going to tell you the fact"
"You don't like my grinding, you can get your money back."
Because I'm grinding them tools, oh, I'm grinding them tools
I grind so many they all call me the grinding old fool
Title: Jake Leg Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:41:40 PM
Jake Leg Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: B-flat

Edited to add:  Here is a clip of "Jake Leg Blues".  See if you can fill in some of the blanks in the lyrics.

https://youtu.be/2COwe6-yLvg

Lyrics:
You thought the [] man would die when you made the country dry
When you made it so that he could not get not another drop of rye
But I know that you will feel bad when you see what a [] he have had
When you see him coming with a lot of [talk], if you listen I will tell you [folks]

Oh well, it's here he comes
I mean to tell you here he comes
He's got those jake limber leg blues
Here he comes
I mean to tell you here he comes
He's got those jake limber leg blues
When you see him coming I am going to tell you
If you sell him jake you better give him a crutch, too
Oh well, it's here he comes
I mean to tell you here he comes
He's got those jake limber leg blues

spoken: Oh, step on it

Oh well, it's here he comes
I mean to tell you here he comes
He's got those jake limber leg blues
Here he comes
I mean to tell you here he comes
He's got those jake limber leg blues
He could be named Charlie and he could be named Ned
But if he drinks this jake it will give him the limber leg
Oh well, it's here he comes
I mean to tell you here he comes
He's got those jake limber leg blues
Title: Back To Mississippi - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:42:48 PM
Back To Mississippi - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/Vs_VVHEuodM

Lyrics:
Always tell, baby, when your man going to put you down
Won't bring no money home and his face is full of frown
You'd better go back to Mississippi, you'd better go back to Mississippi
You'd better go back to Mississippi, honey, where the weather ain't cold

I'm going to tell you one thing, baby, Honey that's sure
Can't stay up here wearing them doggone thin clothes
You'd better go back to Mississippi, you'd better go back to Mississippi
You'd better go back to Mississippi, honey, where the weather ain't cold

Now, nickel's a nickel, a dime's a dime
A woman gets tired of wearing thin clothes up here all the time
And she'll go back to Mississippi, she'll go back to Mississippi
She'll go back to Mississippi, honey, where the weather ain't cold

spoken: Oh, step on it

Baby I'm gonna tell you the fact
Go on, you'd better take your money sack
And go back to Mississippi, and go back to Mississippi
You'd better go back to Mississippi, honey, where the weather ain't cold

Now look-a-here baby, I'm gonna advise you
Only one man up here will never do
You'd better go back to Mississippi, you'd better go back to Mississippi
You'd better go back to Mississippi, honey, where the weather ain't cold

It takes a rocking chair to rock, a rubber ball to roll
A Mississippi train now, to satisfy my soul
We'll go back to Mississippi, we'll go back to Mississippi
We'll go back to Mississippi, honey, where the weather ain't cold

Edited 1/9 to pick up correction from catyron
Title: West Jackson Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:43:52 PM
West Jackson Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/lMjLSiHVTjY

Lyrics:
When you come to West Jackson and don't find me there
Hey, come to West Jackson and don't find me there
You can bet your bottom dollar that I'm walking the road somewhere

I went up the country, baby, just to work in the yard
Hey, up the country, baby, to work in the yard
I had to come back to West Jackson, baby, times up there too hard

Let me tell you one thing, man, what you sure can do
Hey, gonna tell you one thing, what you sure can do
You can stay in West Jackson, work and pick your blues

spoken: Oh fiddle it Mr. Fiddler

I got a girl in West Jackson, lightning when she smiles
Hey, a girl in West Jackson, lightning when she smiles
She's five foot and six inches, now, just good loving size

I'd rather be in West Jackson, any place I know
Hey, be in West Jackson, any place I know
It will take the Chief man, [] to make me go
Title: Jail Bird Love Song - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:45:04 PM
Jail Bird Love Song - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/MZVDaT9frAw

Lyrics:
When I was a rounder, I stopped in New Orleans
I was a great long way away from home, I didn't know nobody that I seen
I was walking along the street one day, I didn't mean no harm
The police looked and seen me and they began to make their alarm
Ain't it hard, ain't it hard
Just looking through the bars
The police looked and seen me and they began to make their alarm

They seen I was a stranger, they soon got on my trail
Soon they had me surrounded and carried me to the city jail
Ain't it hard, ain't it hard
Just looking through the bars
Soon they had me surrounded and carried me to the city jail

When I got in jail I didn't know what to do
There was no-one I knew I could carry my troubles to
Now ain't it hard, ain't it hard
Just looking through the bars
There was no-one I knew I could carry my troubles to

By and by I wrote my dear old mother, it made her lonesome and blue
Son you need not worry, Mother's coming after you
Now ain't it grand, ain't it grand
I don't see how she can stand
Said son you need not worry, Mother's coming after you
Title: Yodeling Fiddling Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:46:39 PM
Yodeling Fiddling Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/xVagtEI86-w

Lyrics:
Out in San Antone, Texas, a long, long way from home
I said San Antone, Texas, a long, long way from home
I would love to live there but I will be all alone
Yodel ay-hee, ay-hee, ayhee

My baby says she don't want me, she's calling someone else her own, Lord, Lord
Baby says she don't want me, she's calling someone else her own
I will have to learn to live out here in San Antone
Yodel ay-hee, ay-hee, ayhee

Going learn to yodel, that's the way to win a home, Lord, Lord
Going learn to yodel, that's the way to win a home
And you will be the only sheik, it is in San Antone
Yodel ay-hee, ay-hee, ayhee

These yodeling blues make a Texas woman leave her home
These yodeling blues make a Texas woman leave her home
I see the way you going, you sure won't be here long
Yodel ay-hee, ay-hee, ayhee

spoken: Oh play it, Mr. Man
Title: Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/b8RIkdo7h_E

Lyrics:
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her just as sure as you're born
I already pays the house
I already buys the clothes
What makes her steal now, I sure don't know
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon

My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her just as sure as you're born
Well, she don't steal silver
She don't steal gold
Mess around the bakershop and steal jellyroll
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon

spoken: Oh, step on it

My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her just as sure as you're born
I was sitting in the corner
Just still as a lamb
Wasn't too still to hear the back door slam
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon

My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her just as sure as you're born
You'd better do your stealing
While the stealing is grand
It will be all over when I get my mojo hand
My baby keeps-a-stealing loving on me
I'm going to catch her soon
Title: River Bottom Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:50:12 PM
River Bottom Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/ylqa9U434_k

Lyrics:
Nobody knows the river bottoms like I do
Nobody knows river bottoms like I do
Crying it's the reason I know them I travelled them through and through

I went to the station, looked up at the sign
I went to the station, looked up at the sign
Crying if the train don't hurry it's gonna be some walking done

Man, you can always tell when your baby gonna treat you mean
Crying you can always tell when your baby gonna treat you mean
You get your meals unregular, house ain't never clean

Now you can mighty easy tell when your faro's gonna throw you down
Now you can mighty easy tell when your faro's gonna throw you down
Now she won't say nothing but her face all filled with frown

spoken: Oh, step on it

I hear the railroad poppin' and the ties begin to cry
I hear the railroad poppin' and the ties begin to cry
Wonder did it bring me my baby or leave her, pass on by
Title: Bootlegger's Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
Bootlegger's Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/ylqa9U434_k

Lyrics:
There's a whiskey on my back and the sheriff is on my track
I'm gonna make it to the woods if I can
I'll take your word to go my bail rather to go to the county jail
You'd better make it to the woods if you can
If you can, if you can
You'd better make it to the woods if you can

If want to have to leave home, you just set with a bottle of corn
You got to make it to the woods if you can
You may think they doing you wrong but they'll send you to the county farm
You'd better make it to the woods if you can
If you can, if you can
You'd better make it to the woods if you can

When you go out for a load, the sherriff will stop you on the road
You'll have to make it to the woods if you can
It's a real surprising thing, that's to hear those forty-four ring
You'd better make it to the woods if you can
If you can, if you can
You'd better make it to the woods if you can

spoken:  Boys, they sure get the [jail] about liquor

Ever since the state went dry, the bootleggers have to stand shy
They gonna keep out the way of the sheriff if they can
If they can, if they can
They gonna keep out the way of the sheriff if they can
Title: Loose Like That - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:53:06 PM
Loose Like That - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/NHq00X2thwE

Lyrics:
Bo: Where you going all dolled up Too-Tight?
Walter: Down here to a skin ball, of course.
Bo: Skin ball?  What is that, Too-Tight?
Walter: Take out the eights, nines and tens so the women can play as well as the men.
Bo: Well, who gonna play down there tonight?
Walter: Me of course.
Bo: Well, is you gonna dance any down there, Too-Tight?
Walter: Of course, of course.
Bo: Well, I'd better go back home and get my dancing slippers and come by and get my gal.
Walter: Of course.
Bo: Now, what are you gonna give down there tonight, Too-Tight?
Walter: I'm gonna give them "It's Loose Like That."
Bo: Well, let's hear from you, then, Too-Tight.

It's too tight baby, it's tight like that
It's too tight baby, it's tight like that
It's too tight baby, it's tight like that
Too tight baby for me

It's too loose baby, it's loose like that
It's too loose baby, it's loose like that
It's too loose baby, it's loose like that
It's too loose baby for me

spoken: That's what I'm talking about, it's too loose

It's too jelly baby, it's jelly like that
It's too jelly baby, jelly like that
It's too jelly baby, jelly like that
Too jelly baby for me

It's too rough baby, it's rough like that
Too rough baby, rough like that
Too rough baby, it's rough like that
Too rough baby for me

It's too red baby, it's red like that
Too red baby, red like that
Too red baby, it's red like that
Too red baby for me

You're too mean baby, you're mean like that
Too mean baby, you're mean like that
You're too mean baby, you're mean like that
You're too mean baby for me

spoken: Oh, fiddle it Mr. Fiddler

It's too blue baby, it's blue like that
Too blue baby, it's blue like that
Too blue baby, it's blue like that
Too blue baby for me

You're too black baby, you're black like that
You're too black baby, you're black like that
You're too black baby, you're black like that
You're too black baby for me
Title: Sitting On Top Of The World No. 2 - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
Sitting On Top Of The World No. 2 - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/BY43CC_Wz6s

Lyrics:
I begged you baby, with tears in my eyes
But still you dog me, cause me to cry
And now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm still on top of the world

I shed a tear all over my clothes
Just crying and begging you, "Baby, please don't go"
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm still on top of the world

The boys and girls sung this lonesome song
About when she left me, hurt me to the bone
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm still on top of the world

This is what I will say just as you going
There'll be no more worrying from this day on
Because she's gone, I don't worry
I'm still on top of the world

Now when I'm dead and in my grave
Then no more women will I crave
Because I'll be gone, you need to worry
I'm still on top of the world

Now when I'm sleeping and in my grave
Just [think] [how] poor Walter used to be a slave
But now he's gone, you need to worry
I'm still on top of the world
Title: Your Good Man Caught The Train And Gone - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:55:29 PM
Your Good Man Caught The Train And Gone - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/FT-MWTIozjI

Lyrics:
If you don't want me, won't you please tell me so, sweet mama?
If you don't want me, won't you please tell me so?
I can get a woman anywhere I go

Just as sure as you hear me singing this lonesome song, sweet mama
Just as sure as you hear me singing this lonesome song
Where it ain't no loving, it ain't no getting along

You can treat me mean, mean as you can be, sweet mama
You can treat me mean, mean as you can be
But there is coming a day you will be longing for me

You will long for me but I will be far away, sweet mama
You will long for me but I will be far away
Then you will miss my loving each night and day

I laid down last night, tried to take my rest, sweet mama
I laid down last night, I tried to take my rest
My mind begin to ramble like wild geese in the west

When you get up in the morning, begin to sing this lonesome song, sweet mama
When you get up in the morning, sing this lonesome song
I had a good man, he caught the train and gone
Title: Times Done Got Hard - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:56:35 PM
Times Done Got Hard - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/7uQM7mO-3WY

Lyrics:
Times seem so hard look like my road have turned to stone
The times seem so hard look like my road have turned to stone
When every friend you have done shook hands and gone

There's a man named Pete he walks the street each and every day
There's a man named Pete he walks the street each and every day
And if the times don't get better he will run the [Lofton] [man] away

Now, when Needmore get you, ain't no use of crying
I say when Needmore get you it ain't no use of crying
And you will know for sure, boys, that's strictly hard time

Boys, when you get lazy and refuse to go
Boys, when you get lazy and refuse to go
[] [] man will come and get you by the name of Needmore

spoken: Oh, step on it

The times seem so hard until the men [will chance] their blinds
The times seem so hard until the men [will chance] their blinds
They will ask you for a nickel and make it to the bakershop-a-flying
Title: Unhappy Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:57:42 PM
Unhappy Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/W7Fvx61oWj4

Lyrics:
I can't be content here, oh nowhere I be
I can't be content here, oh nowhere I be
No place I go to seem like home to me

Everybody seem welcome here in this place but me
Everybody seem welcome here in this place but me
Bad whiskey and women caused me can't see no peace

I have laid in jail with my face turned to the wall
I have laid in jail with my face turned to the wall
It was doctors and lawyers said "Son, you's the cause of it all."

And the day is growing older, oh, and the night's growing near
And the day is growing older, oh, the night's growing near
And some got six months, oh, I've got a year

spoken: Oh, step on it

And those days have passed over that I wished I was dead and gone
And those days have passed over that I wished I was dead and gone
For I'm so unhappy out here on the county farm
Title: Still I'm Travelling On - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
Still I'm Travelling On - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/3CjvfjpKAh0

Lyrics:
I'm a stranger here, nobody knows my name
Everything that happens they says I'm to blame
But still I'm traveling along, still I'm traveling along
Well, the way may be hard but don't ever give up your load

They done me wrong, talk about me when I'm asleep
Along about day I made my 'fore day creep
I'm just traveling along, I'm just traveling along
Well, the way may be hard but don't ever give up your load

spoken: Oh, step on it

Some of these mornings, I'm going to shout
When your mean ways have done worried out
Then I'll be traveling along, then I'll be traveling along
Well, the way may be hard but don't ever give up your load

spoken: I mean step on it

I went to leave, she put rocks in my road
Doing everything to get me not to go
But still I travel right on, still I travel right on
Well, the way may be hard but don't ever give up your load

spoken: Oh, stomp it
spoken: Uh

It have been days that you were nice and kind
But it seems like now you've left this world behind
That's why I'm traveling along, that's why I'm traveling along
Well, the way may be hard but don't ever give up your load
Title: Honey Babe Let The Deal Go Down - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:00:07 PM
Honey Babe Let The Deal Go Down - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lyrics:
Honey babe, please let the deal go down
Honey babe, please let the deal go down
We can get the money, walk on down through town

I'm a stranger to you and you's a stranger to me
I'm a stranger to you and you's a stranger to me
If you be my babe how happy I will be

I've traveled until, traveled the whole world through
I've traveled until, traveled the whole world through
I found a woman looked as sweet to me as you

Now, honey babe, you got me troubled in mind
Now, honey babe, you got me troubled in mind
You keep me worried and bothered all the time

I ain't mean, I'm good as I can be
I ain't mean, I'm good as I can be
Tell me sweet babe, what fault you find of me
Title: She Ain't No Good - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:01:12 PM
She Ain't No Good - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Z4ZO5UcOWsA

Lyrics:
I had a girl, she was just that kind, I thought I would make her mine
But when I looked the matter through, she was the worst of kind
She ain't no good, oh, she ain't no good
When I come to find her out I found she was no good

Some men likes a country girl, my girl lives in town
A town girl will be loving you when the country girl messes around
She ain't no good, oh, she ain't no good
When you see them, brother, lives in the woods, you know she ain't no good

A town girl will get one man and always treat him well
But a country girl will get her ten men and give them all hell
She ain't no good, oh, she ain't no good
She wants every man in the neighborhood, you know she ain't no good

A yellow gal drinks her corn whiskey, brownskin do the same
The country girl get a chew of Brown's Mule but she's getting drunk just the same
She ain't no good, oh, she ain't no good
She wants every man in the neighborhood, you know she ain't no good

I went to the country girl's house and only one night I spent
I got up the next morning and come back home, been running ever since
Oh, she ain't no good, oh, she ain't no good
Deliver me from a country girl because she ain't no good
Title: Ramrod Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:02:24 PM
Ramrod Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/tQNM7yD-LOs

Lyrics:
I wonder where is the ramrod belongs to my gun
I wonder where is the ramrod belongs to my gun
My brother got one but I can't use it none

What good is a house without a back yard
What good is a house without a back yard
What good is a gun without a ramrod

I rammed my gun every morning 'fore day
I rammed my gun every morning 'fore day
When I woke up this morning my ramrod was gone away

I took you baby when you was hand to hand
Telling everybody that I was your loving man
Now I'm down, times is hard
You want to give some other girl your ramrod

Now how you think that I can have my fun
Now how you think that I can have my fun
When I ain't got the ramrod belongs to my gun
Title: Stop And Listen Blues No. 2 - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:03:28 PM
Stop And Listen Blues No. 2 - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D-flat (s)
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/4kBYvbWnl7c

Lyrics:
When I left town this morning I was on my way back home
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
When I left town this morning I was on my way back home
I heard the church bells making a mournful tone

I stopped and listened as the bells continued on
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
I stopped and listened as the bells continued on
I know by that it's somebody's dead and gone

When I got home the peoples met me and said
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
When I got home the peoples met me and said
Now, run here Walter, your sweet little faro's dead

When I got home I was begin to scream and cry
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
When I got home I was begin to scream and cry
I thought my little baby was too cute to die

I went to the churchhouse cried at the door
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
I went to the churchhouse cried at the door
I never will see my sweet babe ever anymore
Title: Church Bell Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:04:38 PM
Church Bell Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/1Oyuq3MC9mk

Lyrics:
Every time I hear that lonesome church bell ring
Every time I hear that lonesome church bell ring
It reminds me of a girl I lost last Spring

Every time it ringing, makes me weep and moan
Every time it ringing, makes me weep and moan
I was thinking about my sweet baby I lost from my home

There are two white horses, slowly they drove along
There's two white horses, slowly they drove along
They was carrying my baby from her happy home

As they come near the churchhouse, bell begin to tone
As they come near the churchhouse, the bell begin to tone
And [there] was [true] every [day] that she is [gone] to a lonesome home

spoken: Oh, step on it
Title: Please Don't Wake It Up - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:05:51 PM
Please Don't Wake It Up - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/mOGWDTvuLbI

Lyrics:
Now the girl's got something, I don't know what it is
Every time they move it, Lord, it can't be still
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

I may be right, I may be wrong
Can't get to some girls' house for [old Armstrong]
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

They may have good hair, they may look neat
But when you take off their shoe, you can smell their stinking feet
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

spoken: Oh, don't wake it up
spoken: It'll be too black bad

Now, some of these girls, they'll call you honey
But when you go to their house, they will smell mighty funny
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

I'm going to tell you something baby, you know it's just right
Get you a bar of P and G and take a bath tonight
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

She got up this morning, she looking mighty sweet
The mens all thought she's something good to eat
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

Some days I worry, some days I don't
Babe, you got something that I sure, Lord, want
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

You may look sorry, you may look mad
You ain't got nothing that I wished I had
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad
Title: Please Baby - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:07:28 PM
Please Baby - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/V8FXV14t4Jk

Lyrics:
Please baby, please baby
Won't you come back to your baby one more time
You know baby, you know baby
When I get my money I will give you my last dime
When you left me babe, you left me feeling so blue
You know babe, I didn't love no one but you
Please baby, please baby
Won't you come back to your daddy one more time

I'm so blue baby, I'm so blue baby
I can't sleep at night, can't hardly talk for crying
You know baby, you know baby
You are always forever on my mind
Since you been gone I can't sleep at night
I go to take my meals I can't eat a bite
Please baby, please baby
Won't you come back to your daddy one more time

Please baby, please baby
Won't you come back and leave that other man alone
Please baby, please baby
I need you here to carry my loving on
I know babe I didn't treat you right
I need your loving both day and night
Please baby, please baby
Won't you come back to your daddy one more time
Title: Things About Comin' My Way - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:09:04 PM
Things About Comin' My Way - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/pGPTF-Y0jCk

Lyrics:
Lost all my money, didn't have a dime
Giving up this whole world, leaving it behind
But after all of my hard traveling, things is about coming my way

When I was sick, down on my bed
My friends forsaken me and said I was dead
But after all of my hard traveling, things is about coming my way

Boys ain't it hard when you ain't got a friend
Just keep on traveling, you will need my help again
But after all of my hard traveling, things is about coming my way

Hey, I don't worry
Hey, I don't worry
Hey, man, things is about coming my way

I'm always sweet, ain't never mad
Thinking over the tough luck I once have had
But after all of my hard traveling, things is about coming my way

Take me baby just as I am
Hasn't got any money, I'm all in a jam
But after all of my hard traveling, things is about coming my way

She told all my neighbors and all my friends
That I was a dirty mistreater, you wouldn't have me back again
But after all of my hard traveling, things is about coming my way
Title: The World Is Going Wrong - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:10:46 PM
The World Is Going Wrong - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G (possibly half-spanish)
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/tHV7sA7CG2Q

Lyrics:
Strange things has happened like never before
My baby told me I would have to go
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong

Feel bad this morning, ain't got no home
No use of worrying, because the world's gone wrong
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong

I told you, baby, right to your head
If I didn't leave you I would have to kill you dead
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong

I tried to be loving and treat you kind
But it seems like now I got no loving mind
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong

If you have a woman and she don't be kind
Pray to the good Lord to get her off your mind
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong

Then, when you been good, now, can't do no more
Just tell her kindly, "There is the front door."
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong

Pack up my suitcase, give me my hat
No use to ask me, baby, because I'll never be back
I can't be good no more once like I did before
I can't be good, baby, honey, because the world's gone wrong
Title: She's A Bad Girl - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:11:52 PM
She's A Bad Girl - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/QZ8S47FZx4U

Lyrics:
Your mama was a teddy, your sister was a bear
But your mother's on your papa because she had bad hair
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell

I got an old girl, she's long and tall
She can shake her shimmy from wall to wall
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell

She's long and tall, rough you know
The wind from her nose blowed open the door
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell

People come running from their home
Thought somebody had turned on the lawn
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell

Skin on her face rough as bark on a tree
The knots on her head thick as sand on the sea
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell

She had a brother whose name was Bud
His nose hung down like a police club
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell

There is a girl, her name is Nell
When she walks down the street, she don't smell so well
She's a bad girl, she's a bad girl
Takes toilet soap and water, baby, for to change your smell
Title: Tell Me What The Cats Fight About - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:13:02 PM
Tell Me What The Cats Fight About - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/t0m7n-GYjKk

Lyrics:
spoken: Wonder what's the matter with these old cats around here?  Can't nobody sleep for howling all night long.  Scat out of here!

All night the cats quarrel
It seems that every cat was there in the world
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?

The old tomcat had all the kittens around
To see him fight the bravest cat in town
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Now, won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?

The old tomcat bought him some boxing gloves
To fight the others because they was trying to love
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Now, won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?

spoken:  Scat!

It ain't no [], it ain't no rat
Most anything will fight about that
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Now, won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?

What makes the tomcat fight so brave?
Fighting about something that he sure, Lord, craves
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Now, won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?

The old tomcat sit in the middle of the ring
To fight the others because they're shaking that thing
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Now, won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?

It ain't so big, it ain't so shy
A little-bitty spot the size a rabbit's eye
Oh, what's that thing? Oh, what's that thing?
Now, won't you please tell me what the cats all fighting about?
Title: Kind Treatment - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:14:43 PM
Kind Treatment - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/sVhP1AXNCzY

Lyrics:
Oh, I wonder where is kind treatment, now?
Oh, I wonder where is kind treatment, now?
I am at the need of helping, kind treatments ain't nowhere around

Oh, when I was sick and down on my bed
Oh, when I was sick and down on my bed
Lordy, everybody forsaken me and kind treatment come and held my aching head

When I struck tough luck and was all locked and barred in jail
When I struck tough luck and was all locked and barred in jail
Lordy, didn't anybody know me and kind treatments come and went my bail

Oh, I wonder where is kind treatment, now?
Oh, I wonder where is kind treatment, now?
If I ever once needed you, kind treatment won't you please come around?

When I was a [little button], straying [to where away] from home
When I was a [little button], straying [to where away] from home
Lordy, kind treatment wrote me a letter and said Walter you did your poor [parents] wrong
Title: Livin' In A Strain - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:17:17 PM
Livin' In A Strain - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C (s)
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/rTJep3qyxfo

Lyrics:
Now the people's crying mercy but their whole world is now in a strain
Now the people's crying mercy but their whole world is now in a strain
I am going to the courthouse and have the judge to change my name

I was out this morning, I looked up at the rising sun
I was out this morning, I looked up at the rising sun
Now this strain that I'm in, it will take me two years to overcome

Now let me tell you boys how your friends will treat you when you're in a strain
Now let me tell you boys how your friends will treat you when you're in a strain
They won't even come around you and call you a round of dirty names

I really believe I'm going to have to leave this town
I really believe I'm going to have to leave this town
Because this strain that I'm in, it is really carrying me down

I was out this morning, I looked up at the rising sun
Was out this morning, I looked up at the rising sun
And now this strain that I'm in, it will take me two years to overcome
Title: Lazy, Lazy River - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:18:21 PM
Lazy, Lazy River - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Rz7Z5Xqmqis

Lyrics:
I've been blue all day, just walking here on [borrowed] ground
I've looked beneath of the daisies, my pal could not be found
She's down that lazy river and I'm just lost from here
That's the only place between heaven and earth I long to get

When I find that river, that lazy, lazy river
Then my life will be complete
I searched the whole world over, I've slept out on the clover
Hoping there to rest my feet
I've searched beneath of the daisies and looked up in the moon
I followed every rainbow and I hope to be there soon
And when I find that river, that lazy, lazy river
Then I'm coming home for you

If I could find that river, that lazy, lazy river
Then my life will be complete
I searched the whole world over, I've slept out on the clover
Hoping there to rest my feet
I've searched beneath of the daisies and looked up in the moon
I followed every rainbow and I hope to be there soon
And when I find that river, that lazy, lazy river
Then I'm coming home for you
Title: Too Long - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:19:42 PM
Too Long - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/NR5WWBgF6Jw

Lyrics:
My baby she left me, she never said a word
It was on account of something that she heard
She thought when she left, I'd run around and cry
But there's a crepe on my door for you, I bidded you goodbye

Too long, you waited too long to come home
Now your daddy don't need you no more
Too long, you don't belong here any more
So stop your knock-knocking on my door
Now you left me, sweet mama, for no good reason at all
And now there's another mule kicking in your same old stall
Too long, you waited too long to come home
Now your daddy don't need you no more

Too long, you waited too long to come home
Now your daddy don't need you no more
Too long, you don't belong here any more
So stop your knock-knocking on my door
Now you left me, sweet mama, for no good reason at all
And now there's another mule kicking in your same old stall
Too long, you waited too long to come home
Now your daddy don't need you no more
Title: Shake Hands And Tell Me Goodbye - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:20:49 PM
Shake Hands And Tell Me Goodbye - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/-Pt9-lzPjGg

Lyrics:
I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don't want you no more sweet baby, you didn't love me nohow
Last night, the night before
I saw another man knocking on your door
I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don't want you no more sweet baby, you didn't love me nohow
I worked all the winter, the winter was tough
With another man, just a-strutting your stuff
I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I'm leaving this town tomorrow, no use to sigh and cry
I was good when you was sick and good when you was well
No use to pray when you get in hell
I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I done everything I could do, still you pass me by
I worked all the winter in the chilly winds
You giving your loving to the other men
I don't want you no more sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
Title: Bed Spring Poker - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
Bed Spring Poker - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lyrics:
Bed pring poker is an awful thing
Most everybody loves to play that game
Bed spring poker's a ruination to a-many man
Now if you keeps on playing it you will lose the last dollar from your hand

Most every man has a game in his home
Ruther play somebody else's than to play his own
Bed spring poker's a ruination to a-many man
And if you keeps on playing it you will lose the last dollar from your hand

There's a brownskin woman lives out on the hill
She used to play poker and she plays it still
Bed spring poker's a ruination to a-many man
And if you keeps on playing it you will lose the last dollar from your hand

spoken: Oh, look at that old bed shaking.
spoken: That's what they call bed spring poker.

When she gets to playing it, she plays it in a rush
You will have three aces but she will have a royal flush
Now bed spring poker's a ruination to a-many man
And if you keeps on playing it you will lose the last dollar from your hand

There is a man, name is Bill
He used to play poker and he plays it still
Now bed spring poker's a ruination to a-many man
And if you keeps on playing it you will lose the last dollar from your hand
Title: When You're Sick With The Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
When You're Sick With The Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/HRB2mYsHjXA

Lyrics:
I was out this morning, I wasn't feeling just right
I've had a funny feeling all day and all night
When you're sick with the blues, don't know what to do
Get a brownskin woman and let her perform an operation on you

There's a brownskin woman, she lives out on the hill
She used to cure patients and she cures them still
When you're sick with the blues, don't know what to do
Get a brownskin woman and let her perform an operation on you

She will take a [restorating] from your head on down
You'll think you'll be in heaven, but you will still be in town
When you're sick with the blues, don't know what to do
Get a brownskin woman and let her perform an operation on you

spoken: Oh, when you're sick with the blues

You will feel better than you ever felt in your life
Trying to get the doctor woman to be your wife
When you're sick with the blues, don't know what to do
Get a brownskin woman and let her perform an operation on you

You'll ask the doctor woman about being your wife
Her daily occupation is saving sick men's life
When you're sick with the blues, don't know what to do
Get a brownskin woman and let her perform an operation on you
Title: I've Got Blood in My Eyes for You - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:24:39 PM
I've Got Blood in My Eyes for You - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/PQDDBipao4U

Lyrics:
I was out this morning, feeling blue
I say to a good-looking girl, "Can I make love with you?"
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
I've got blood in my eyes for you baby, I don't care what in this world you do

I went back home, put on my tie
Going to get that girl that this money will buy
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
I've got blood in my eyes for you baby, I don't care what in the world you do

She looked at me, begin to smile
Hey hey man, can't you wait awhile
No, No, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
No, No, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
I've got blood in my eyes for you baby, I don't care what in the world you do

spoken: Oh, I've got blood in my eyes for you.

No, no, man, I can't wait
You got my money, trying to break this date
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
I've got blood in my eyes for you baby, I don't care what in the world you do

I'm going to tell you something, going to tell you the fact
If you don't want me, give my money back
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
I've got blood in my eyes for you baby, I don't care what in this world you do

It ain't no need of getting rocks in your jaws
You ain't going to get none of my Santa Claus
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
Hey, hey, baby, I've got blood in my eyes for you
I've got blood in my eyes for you baby, I don't care what in this world you do
Title: Shooting High Dice - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:25:55 PM
Shooting High Dice - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/_zuT_hEUrnQ

Lyrics:
Well, shooting them high dice and that woman of mine
Caused me to wear pawned briefs in the cold winter time
Now all of you men better take my advice
Just hold to your money, stop shooting them dice

Now, most every woman in the neighborhood
Will get all your money and don't mean you no good
When she get all you [got], you'll think you'll wend her home
You go there the next night, something going on wrong

Now this has caused me to live in a strain
Have spent all my money and it was in vain
But if I ever get my hands on a dollar again
I'm gonna hold on to it like my only friend
Title: Isn't A Pain To Me - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:27:02 PM
Isn't A Pain To Me - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/qjWGHx7uiQU

Lyrics:
I've had a funny feeling all day and all night
Somehow here I don't get treated just right
Oh, it's a pain to me, oh, it's a pain to me
I'm having so much trouble, oh, it's a pain to me

I'm going to [leave] here today if I have to walk
Ever since I been here it's been the whole town's talk
Oh, it's a pain to me, oh, it's a pain to me
I'm having so much trouble, oh, it's a pain to me

I don't be happy no more, I've done got it bad
Thinking over the money that I once have had
Oh, it's a pain to me, oh, it's a pain to me
I'm having so much trouble, oh, it's a pain to me

Now, when you lose your money, don't lose your mind
If you lose your good girl, it's no use of crying
Oh, it's a pain to me, oh, it's a pain to me
I'm having so much trouble, oh, it's a pain to me

I've had so much trouble, I've take it for my name
If you ever have trouble, man, I want you to do the same
Oh, it's a pain to me, oh, it's a pain to me
I'm having so much trouble, oh, it's a pain to me

You will think you've left trouble all behind
Get well away from home, then it will roll across your mind
Oh, it's a pain to me, oh, it's a pain to me
I'm having so much trouble, oh, it's a pain to me
Title: She's Crazy About Her Lovin' - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
She's Crazy About Her Lovin' - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/b1FzAlebfkw

Lyrics:
No use to ask the poor girl her name
Because she's looking for her loving man
She's just crazy about her loving, she's just crazy about her loving
Yes, she's crazy about her loving, she likes to have her fun

Early this morning, just about day
She knock on my door and she told me she would stay
Because she's crazy about her loving, yes, she's crazy about her loving
Well, she's crazy about her loving, she likes to have her fun

spoken: Whoa, step on it

Listen here, boys, it have come to pass
Ain't had my sugar since I had you last
Because she's crazy about her loving, yes, she's crazy about her loving
Well, she's crazy about her loving, she likes to have her fun

If you ever wanted loving and wanted it bad
Can't get loving, man, don't get mad
Because she's crazy about her loving, yes, she's crazy about her loving
I said, she's crazy about her loving, she likes to have her fun

Love is a thing, it makes you feel funny
All the girls want's just a little of your money
Then it's crazy about your loving, then it's crazy about your loving
Yes, she's crazy about her loving, she likes to have her fun

spoken: Oh, she's crazy about it

When you get to loving, want you to love this way
Love her long time, it will drive the blues away
Then she's crazy about your loving, then she's crazy about your loving
Yes, she's crazy about your loving, she likes to have her fun

Loving everybody, all downtown
So much loving it's done carried you down
You're just crazy about your loving, you're just crazy about your loving
Yes, she's crazy about her loving, she likes to have her fun
Title: Tell Me To Do Right - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:29:33 PM
Tell Me To Do Right - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/wIHP5xhBhGQ

Lyrics:
You're telling me to do right, baby, and you won't do right yourself
You're telling me to do right, baby, and you won't do right yourself
Every time my back is turned, you're slipping and dodging with somebody else

I believe I'm going to leave you so you can take care of yourself
I believe I'm going to leave you so you can take care of yourself
And it's the reason I'm going to leave you, you can get you somebody else

I hate to leave you, but the talk is all over town
I hate to leave you, but the talk is all over town
About I been a good boy to you, but you gonna put the poor boy down

spoken: Oh, step on it

I know you're going to miss your good man when he's gone away
I know you're going to miss your good man when he's gone away
It may not be so soon, baby, but it will be along any lonesome day

It may be soon, baby, and it may be late
It may be soon, baby, and it may be late
They said she's a red-hot mama, Lord, and she sure won't wait
Title: The New Stop And Listen Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:30:38 PM
The New Stop And Listen Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/DNWL_Pxz-R4

Lyrics:
Lord, I went to the graveyard and looked deep down in here face
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Lord, I went to the grave and looked deep down in here face
Crying, Lord, what a lonesome place

Well, the woman I'm loving, she's six feet in the clay
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Lord, the woman I'm loving, she's six feet in the clay
Oh, the one I hate I sees her every day

Well, I went to the churchhouse, praying on my bended knee
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Lord, I went to the churchhouse, praying on my bended knee
Crying, Lord, give me my baby, please

spoken: Whoa, step on it.

Well, I went to the graveyard, held up my right hand
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Lord, I went to the graveyard, held up my right hand
I asked the graveyard to show me the right man

Ain't it sad to say, but the fun's all over now
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Ain't it sad to say, but the fun's all over now
There is days that you didn't want me no-how
Title: Go 'Way Woman - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:31:41 PM
Go 'Way Woman - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/2G2DJ7Wh2Gg

Lyrics:
Last night and the night before
Saw another man knocking on your door
Oh, go away woman, I can't use you no more
Now you's a dirty mistreater, I can't use you no more

Latched on in the time and once before
I ain't gonna let you latch on me no more
Oh, go away woman, I can't use you no more
Now you's a dirty mistreater, I can't use you no more

I've always put a dollar in your hand
Now you doing your cooking for some other man
Oh, go away woman, I can't use you no more
Now you's a dirty mistreater, I can't use you no more

This life I'm living is misery to me
You always got me feeling so blue
Oh, go away woman, I can't use you no more
Now you's a dirty mistreater, I can't use you no more
Title: New Shake That Thing - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:32:48 PM
New Shake That Thing - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/m3DkX6SJP0c

Lyrics:
So cold up north till the birds can't sing
The people down south is shaking that thing
Oh, shake that thing, oh, shake that thing
Well, the people down south will always shake that thing

I lay down last night, I was awful sick
I woke up this morning, she had my bucket fixed
But I had to shake that thing, oh, had to shake that thing
Well, the people down south, always going to shake that thing

I went down to the station, up to the train
I couldn't buy no ticket, for shaking that thing
Oh, shake that thing, oh, shake that thing
Well, the people down south will always shake that thing

I went down to the railroad, I laid my head on the track
The train come along, and it broke my back
Now I can't shake that thing, no, I can't shake that thing
Well, the people down south will always shake that thing
Title: The New Sittin' On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:33:52 PM
The New Sittin' On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/_otwTFKFRek

Lyrics:
Maybe today, or [] late
My baby got movements like a old Cadillac eight
I'll never leave her, because I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

I'll go away, I won't stay long
Thinking about that sweet thing I've left at home
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

My baby loves me, tries to treat me right
Gives me her loving both day and night
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

My baby says one thing, I know it is true
"Can't have another man and be good to you"
I'll never leave her, because I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Up in Chicago, long ways from home
Wonder if somebody else, carrying my loving on
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

I'm going home, buy a lock and key
To keep these men from stealing my loving from me
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world
Title: He Calls That Religion - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:35:22 PM
He Calls That Religion - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/ukHC4lXRohA

Lyrics:
Well the preacher used to preach to try to save souls
But now he's preaching just to buy jelly roll
Well, he calls that religion, yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion when I know he's going to Hell when he dies

Was in church last night, happy as I could be
The old preacher was trying to take my wife from me
Well, he calls that religion, yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion, I know he's going to Hell when he dies

Preacher always, he was a mighty true man
[He] [gives] [His] [command] and he [couldn't understand]
Well, he calls that religion, yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion when I know he's going to Hell when he dies

spoken: Oh yeah, he calls that religion.

He will swear he's keeping God's command
Have women fussing and fighting all over the land
And then he calls that religion, well, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion when I know he's going to Hell when he dies

The reason the people stopped going to church
They know that preacher was trying to do too much
But still he calls that religion, still he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion but I know he's going to Hell when he dies

Old Deacon Jones he was a preaching king
They caught him round the house trying to shake that thing
Oh, he calls that religion, yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion when I know he's going to Hell when he dies

spoken: Oh yeah, he call that religion.

Notes:
I can't commit to the third verse at all.  There's some relevant discussion in this thread at http://weeniecampbell.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=83&topic=1767.0
Title: Don't Wake It Up - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:36:31 PM
Don't Wake It Up - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/mOGWDTvuLbI

Lyrics:
Now the girl's got something, I don't know what it is
Every time you move it, Lord, I can't be still
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

I may be right, I may be wrong
Can't get to some girl's house for [old Armstrong]
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

spoken: Oh, don't wake it up

May have good hair, she may look neat
But when you take off the shoe you can smell the stinking feet
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

Now some of these girls, they will call you honey
But when you go to their house, they will smell mighty funny
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

spoken: Oh, don't wake it up

I'm going to tell you something baby, you know it's just right
Get a bar of P and G and take a bath tonight
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

She got up this morning, she looking mighty sweet
The mens all thought she's something good to eat
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

spoken: Oh, don't wake it up

Now some days I worry, some days I don't
You got something that I sure Lord want
So, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

Well it ain't no use to get rocks in your jaws
You ain't going to get none of my Santy Claus
Oh, don't wake it up, oh, don't wake it up
Now if you do, it will be too black bad

spoken: Don't wake it up.
Title: Please Baby - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:37:53 PM
Please Baby - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D (s)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/V8FXV14t4Jk

Lyrics:
Please baby, please, baby
Won't you come back to your daddy one more time
You know, baby, you know, baby
When I get my money I will give you my last dime
When you left me babe, you left me feeling so blue
You know babe, I didn't love no one but you
Please baby, please, baby
Won't you come back to your daddy one more time

I'm so blue, baby, I'm so blue, baby
I can't sleep for dreaming, can't hardly talk for crying
You know, baby, you know, baby
You are always forever on my mind
You know, babe, I can't sleep at night
I go to take my meals I can't eat a bite
So please, baby, please, baby
Won't you come back to your daddy one more time
Title: I'll Be Gone, Long Gone - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:39:12 PM
I'll Be Gone, Long Gone - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: n/a
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a
Piano accompaniment

https://youtu.be/GSh_WS5_H44

Lyrics:
I beg you, baby, to treat me right
Now I'm going to leave you, honey, tomorrow night
I'll be gone, long gone, to never come back no more

I work hard, baby, give you all my dough
Now you gone to acting so funny, I'm bound to go
I'll be gone, long gone, to never come back no more

You may have men around your house, everywhere you be
But someday, baby, you gonna long for me
I'll be gone, long gone, to never come back no more

You going to be sorry, sorry to your heart
But someday, baby, we'll have to part
I'll be gone, long gone, to never come back no more

It's no use to grieve, no use to cry
You sure miss your water, honey, when your well go dry
But it'll be gone, long gone, to never come back no more

You may be happy everywhere you be
But someday, baby, you'll long for me
I'll be gone, long gone, to never come back no more
Title: Kitty Cat Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:40:57 PM
Kitty Cat Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: Dropped D

https://youtu.be/vp3y0VS2zgM

Lyrics:
I wonder where is that woman that carried my kitty cat away
Wonder where is that woman that carried my kitty cat away
I haven't had no cat to catch my rat today

An old kitty cat is a good thing to have in town
An old kitty cat is a good thing to have in town
To catch your rat at home, won't have to run around

She taken kitty to the dance and I didn't care about that
Taken kitty to the dance and I didn't care about that
Oh, but she's making my kitty cat paw some other rat

spoken: Come on.

I haven't had no kitty cat to crawl around my bed today
I haven't had no kitty cat to crawl around my bed today
My rat is getting so bad, I believe he's going to stray

I'm calling her "Kitty, kitty, won't you please come-a-here?"
Calling her "Kitty, kitty, won't you please come-a-here?"
There's no use to run around when you've got a rat ready here in your bed
Title: Show Me What You Got - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:42:05 PM
Show Me What You Got - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: D
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/SuNCmVel5aE

Lyrics:
Oh, some people tell me that it's bottled in bond
No, it ain't nothing but homemade corn
Oh, show me what you got, oh, show me what you got, oh baby
Show me what you got, show me what you got for sale

Yes, you walking around here talking about liquor for sale
First thing you know they will have you in jail
You have to show him what you got, oh, show him what you got
Yes, show him what you got, show him what you got for sale

Some got pints, some got quarts
When you get in jail, you will have a many [brought]
Oh, show me what you got, oh, show me what you got, oh baby
Show me what you got, show me what you got for sale

spoken: Oh, step on it.

Ain't no use, man, to act so wise
What it take to get it, you got a forty-five
Oh, show me what you got, oh, show me what you got, oh baby
Show me what you got, show me what you got for sale

Now, you can wring it, you can twist it, you can step on the tail
You're bound to need somebody for to go your bail
Oh, show me what you got, oh, show me what you got
Oh, show me what you got, show me what you got for sale

Now, see here, man, allow me one more chance
I'll bring you some money if I have to pawn my pants
Oh, show me what you got, oh, show me what you got, oh baby
Show me what you got, show me what you got for sale

Now it ain't no use to get rocks in your jaw
Never no more will you see Santy Claus
Without you show me what you got, oh, show me what you got
Yes, show me what you got, show me what you got for sale
Title: Hitting The Numbers - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
Hitting The Numbers - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/W-IIRmHuH_Q

Lyrics:
Laid down last night, something on my mind
Thought about that black woman and I played the line
If I hit the numbers, I won't worry
I'll be sitting on top of the world

I played yesterday and the day before
Going back tomorrow, gonna play some more
If I hit the numbers, I won't worry
I'll be sitting on top of the world

Laid down last night, didn't close my eyes
Just thinking of playing three, four and five
If I hit the numbers, I won't worry
I'll be sitting on top of the world

Played the three, four and five, thought about the six
But the seven and eight woulda brought my money back quick
If I hit the numbers, I won't worry
I'll be sitting on top of the world

Sometime I [skip] back, thirty, twelve and ten
Playing policy once, you have to play again
If I hit the numbers, I won't worry
I'll be sitting on top of the world

They will take the last dime out of the nation sack
Write me up some numbers, [three-way] [] and []
If I hit the numbers, I won't worry
I'll be sitting on top of the world
Title: It's Done Got Wet - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:44:22 PM
It's Done Got Wet - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/UvdLSSP3nmg

Lyrics:
For seventeen years, a-bone dry
I wanted to drink so bad, I was about to die
Oh, it's done gone wet, oh, it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet

No more drinking homemade corn
Walk to the bar and get your bottled in bond
Oh, it's done gone wet, oh, it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet

Every time they try to live up to the bond run law
They always a-breaking some bootlegger's jaw
Oh, it's done gone wet, oh, it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet

They took the bootlegger, locked him in jail
Couldn't find nobody for to go his bail
Oh, it's done gone wet, oh, it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet

Old Aunt Dinah always had liquor for sale
She always had a free ride to the jail
Now, it's done gone wet, now it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet

I'm glad to see these times again
I can't get whiskey, I'll get drunk offa gin
Oh, it's done gone wet, oh, it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet

One thing here is never, no more
You can get whiskey anywhere you go
Oh, it's done gone wet, oh, it's done gone wet
There's no more worrying, oh, it's done gone wet
Title: Pencil Won't Write No More - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:45:30 PM
Pencil Won't Write No More - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/g8YHK6N7G8A

Lyrics:
I just worry and I wonder, baby, everywhere I go
I just worry and I wonder, baby, everywhere I go
Just thinking about my old pencil, it won't write no more

Everybody is-a-thinking what a time you once had
Everybody's-a-thinking what a time you once had
It can't be no more, because the lead is gone bad

I used to write with my pencil and I would always leave my sign
I used to write with my pencil, I would always leave my sign
Now the lead is gone bad, I can't even draw a line

This is the talk everywhere I go
This is the talk everywhere I go
About the lead is gone bad, my old pencil won't write no more

Lord, I really do believe that this is going to take my life
Oh, I really believe this is going to take my life
Can't find the lead in my pencil even with my old pocketknife
Title: I Am The Devil - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:46:30 PM
I Am The Devil - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Zm2rbzWW_ac

Lyrics:
Yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
Yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
I say yeah, I am the devil, I'm gonna take souls by they come

It have been times that you was done well
But you come down here and you gonna catch some hell
Yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
I say yeah, I am the devil, I'm gonna take souls by they come

Going to town tonight, all across the city
The way I'm going to all them girls, you know it's a really pity
Yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
I say yeah, I am the devil, I'm gonna take souls by they come

The devil is a man, in your face he'll grin
All he'll want you to do is just a little of sin
Yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
I say yes, I am the devil, I'm gonna take souls by they come

spoken: Oh, step on it.

Today and all day, don't get out until dark
Night is the time I get my business right
Mmm, yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
I say yeah, I am the devil, I'm gonna take souls by they come

Some say it's twelve, some say it's two
When you come to this place, I know just what to do
Yes, I'm the devil, oh, and I don't care none
I say yeah, I am the devil, I'm gonna take souls by they come
Title: Baby, Please Make A Change - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:48:00 PM
Baby, Please Make A Change - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/XZ-dGGTkJaU

Lyrics:
I begged you, baby, both day and night
Please don't scold me, just treat me right
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

There's a change in the ocean and the deep blue sea
Be kind to your baby, there'll be a change in me
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I've had a funny feeling all day and all night
I'm going, I'm going if it takes my life
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I'm telling you something, think it will do you good
You'd better get your man out of this neighborhood
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

Darling, I'm telling you that I am mad
If I tell you again, it will be too sad
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good

I'm going away but I'll be back again
Bear this in mind, I'll be forever [on your wend]
Baby, please make a change, baby, please make a change
Baby, please make a change, I think it will do you good
Title: She's Got Something Crazy - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:49:06 PM
She's Got Something Crazy - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/_OQqkbsCQfI

Lyrics:
Oh, my baby caused me to fall upon my knee
That car she got, it have too much speed
Oh, she got something crazy, oh, she got something crazy
Oh, she got something crazy, that's all in this world I crave

I told you once that you were driving too fast
Feeds by electricity and it runs by gas
Oh, she got something crazy, oh, she got something crazy
Oh, she got something crazy, that's all in this world I crave

I've got a girl that lives down by the dale
Got crazy things hanging up for sale
Oh, she got something crazy, oh, she got something crazy
Oh, she got something crazy, that's all in this world I crave

I've got a girl, blind deaf and dumb
Curls in her hair make a dumb man run
Oh, she got something crazy, oh, she got something crazy
Oh, she got something crazy, that's all in this world I crave

Oh, mama, she told me, papa stood and cried
Crazy things kill me, baby, please let me die
Oh, she got something crazy, oh, she got something crazy
Oh, she got something crazy, that's all in this world I crave

Every time she shift, she would strip the gears
You know by that that it's crazy things here
Oh, she got something crazy, oh, she got something crazy
Oh, she got something crazy, that's all in this world I crave
Title: You'll Work Down To Me Someday - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:50:16 PM
You'll Work Down To Me Someday - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/FJIGZvYW9N4

Lyrics:
Look down, look down before you go
Because when you leave, can't come back anymore
Oh, baby, you treats me in a dirty way
And if I can't work up to you, you will really work down to me, someday

How can I stay here?  And I don't feel right
I'm going, I'm going if it takes my life
Oh, baby, you treats me in a dirty way
And if I can't work up to you, you will really work down to me, someday

I have no more business at your place of rest
I'm going to leave you, I think that it's best
Oh, baby, you treats me in a dirty way
If I can't work up to you, you will really work down to me, someday

You talked about me this whole year 'round
Now you can forget me, I'm going to leave town
Oh, baby, you treats me in a dirty way
If I can't work up to you, you will really work down to me, someday

When I get far away, I will write to you
Just to let you know, marriage that I can do
Oh, baby, you treats me in a dirty way
If I can't work up to you, you will really work down to me, someday

Then when I get settled, all down in mind
Won't even think about what I left behind
Oh, baby, you treats me in a dirty way
If I can't work up to you, you will really work down to me, someday
Title: Somebody's Got To Help Me - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
Somebody's Got To Help Me - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/gTW8hGoyWp8

Lyrics:
Look down, look down before you go
Because when you leave you can't come back anymore
Oh, somebody got to help you, baby, some sweet day
Oh, somebody got to help you when you're down in your separate way

I ain't going to worry about life no more
Now you're going to leave me, baby, there's the door
Oh, somebody got to help you, baby, some sweet day
Oh, somebody got to help you when you're down in your separate way

Now, when you will leave I hope you will stay
I may meet you down some lonesome right-of-way
Oh, somebody got to help you, baby, some sweet day
Oh, somebody got to help you when you're down in your separate way

You told all my neighbors and all my friends
That I was a mistreater, you wouldn't have me back again
Oh, somebody got to help you, baby, some sweet day
Oh, somebody got to help you when you're down in your separate way

Someday, someday, when I will be going
You will call for poor Walter, but he won't be in your home
Oh, somebody got to help you, baby, some sweet day
Oh, somebody got to help you when you're down in your separate way
Title: Good Morning Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:52:55 PM
Good Morning Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/f9HJD8fPj0Y

Lyrics:
Good morning blues. Blues, how do you do?
Good morning blues. Blues, how do you do?
I've been worried with the blues and I just can't talk with you

I've done started walking and the blues all in my room
I've done started walking and the blues all in my room
Starvation have overtaken me each and everywhere I go

Blues is in my room, trouble have settled all around my brain
Blues is in my room, trouble have settled all around my brain
And I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, I hate the day that I ever knowed your name

spoken: Oh, step on it.

I am going to walk across the desert, oh, just to get my right mind
I am going to walk across the desert, oh, just to get my right mind
Because me and these blues don't get along here so fine
Title: Blues On My Mind - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:54:10 PM
Blues On My  Mind - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/TWjWp-VYo5c

Lyrics:
Go to your home, hot mama, look where my old clothes used to hang
Go to your home, hot mama, look where my old clothes used to hang
Just think about the way you treated me all last winter and spring

I started down the road and my feet refused to walk
I started down the road and my feet refused to walk
I have something good to tell you but my tongue refuse to talk

Worry is on my mind, trouble have settled all around my brain
Worry is on my mind, trouble have settled all around my brain
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, I hate the day that I ever knowed your name

Know you're going to miss me, you're going to miss me, baby, from my walk
Know you're going to miss me, you're going to miss me, baby, from my walk
It won't be so much [bad], it will only be the whole town's talk
Title: Lonesome Grave Took My Baby - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:55:22 PM
Lonesome Grave Took My Baby - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/l-MVGfHhrXk

Lyrics:
I had a good girl leaning on my arm
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, [pretty mama]
I had a good girl leaning on my arm
That lonesome-oo, called my-oo baby home

I sit and cry, listen at the church bell tone
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, [pretty mama]
I sit and cry, listen at the church bell tone
That lonesome-oo, called my-oo baby home

The people at the churchhouse begin to sing this lonesome song
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
The people at the churchhouse sing this lonesome song
That lonesome grave have called my baby home

The two white horses, slow they drove along
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
The two white horses, slowly they drove along
That lonesome-oo, called my-oo baby home

I wished I could die, can't live here alone
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
I wished I could die, can't live here alone
That lonesome grave have called my baby home
Title: Pop Skull Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:56:27 PM
Pop Skull Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Qm5S8M-OPGs

Lyrics:
I'm a lover of whiskey, everybody knows I [love]
I'm a lover of whiskey, everybody knows I [love]
I taken a drink last night and it was all about to pop my skull

If you want to get drunk and feel real reckless
If you want to get drunk and feel real reckless
Get you a drink of that gin out in old Houston, Texas

Now it drinks real mild, it ain't got much kick
Now it drinks real mild, it ain't got much kick
But it was late last night it were begin to make me sick

I woke up this morning, I couldn't get out my bed
I woke up this morning, I couldn't get out my bed
That doggone pop skull whiskey was about to bust my head

I woke up this morning, couldn't tie up my shoes
I woke up this morning, couldn't tie up my shoes
Now that's the reason why I've got these pop skull blues
Title: Sweet Maggie - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:57:40 PM
Sweet Maggie - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/0KOmtUAWcS8

Lyrics:
Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, where you been so long?
Tell me, Sweet Maggie, where you been so long?
It hasn't been no loving since you been gone

Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, where'd you stay last night?
Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, where'd you stay last night?
You come home this morning, sun was shining bright

I met Sweet Maggie away across the sea
I met Sweet Maggie away across the sea
She wouldn't write me no letter, she didn't care for me

Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, what you going to do?
Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, what you going to do?
Just a little bit of loving, let your heart be true

spoken: Yeah!

Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, be a pal of mine
Sweet Maggie, Sweet Maggie, be a pal of mine
Now she left me walking, tears rolling and crying

If you see Sweet Maggie, tell her to hurry home
If you see Sweet Maggie, tell her to hurry home
It have been no loving since you been gone

Tell me, Sweet Maggie, what's the matter now?
Tell me, Sweet Maggie, what's the matter now?
You wouldn't write me no letter, you didn't love me no-how

Goodbye Sweet Maggie and fare you well
Goodbye Sweet Maggie, now I said fare you well
When I get back here, can't anyone tell
Title: Sales Tax - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 08:59:12 PM
Sales Tax - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

https://youtu.be/2hv7xxrmyh8

Lyrics:
Bo: Hey Walter, we need some cigarettes. Let's go ahead and get a pack
Walter: Okay.
Clerk: Hello boys, what can I do for you?
Bo: I'll have a pack of cigarettes.
Clerk: Alright, here you are. Be 3 cents more, though.
Bo and Walter: What's that for?
Clerk: Sales tax. Haven't you ever heard of sales tax?
Bo: I sure haven't. What's gonna happen next, man? You know they gotta law here they call "Sales Tax."
Walter: Sales tax, what is that for?
Bo: That's 3 cents tax on everything that's sold. They say that's the government rule.
Walter: The governments rule? Well, there's lots of things sold that the government knows anything about.
Bo: Well, I'll just sing a little song about these sales tax.

These times now, ain't suiting me
Corn, it's costing a dollar three
Oh, the sales tax is on it, oh, the sales tax is on it
Oh, the sales tax is on it everywhere you go

Old Aunt Martha lives behind the jail
A sign on the wall saying 'Liquor For Sale'
Oh, the sales tax is on it, oh, the sales tax is on it
Oh, the sales tax is on it everywhere you go

I've never seen the like since I've been born
The women's got sales tax on their stuff at home
Oh, the sales tax is on it, oh, the sales tax is on it
Oh, the sales tax is on it everywhere you go

spoken: You know these sales tax is a pain

You used to could buy for a dollar a round
Now sales tax is on it all over town
Oh, the sales tax is on it, oh, the sales tax is on it
Oh, the sales tax is on it everywhere you go

I'm as loving now, as a woman can be
The stuff I've got'll cost ya a dollar and three
Oh, the sales tax is on it, oh, the sales tax is on it
Oh, the sales tax is on it everywhere you go

Now, you may take me to be a fool
Everything is sold by the government's rule
You know the sales tax is on it, oh, the sales tax is on it
Oh, the sales tax is on it everywhere you go
Title: It's Backfiring Now - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:00:13 PM
It's Backfiring Now - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/YMfUkjFtFPA

Lyrics:
My old car, it won't it run no more
It's really backfiring everywhere I go
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

I had a sweet woman on the road all day
Another man come and taken the good woman away
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

spoken: Oh, fiddle that thing.

The women all said they like a Ford
But I can't get a spark from my doggone car
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

I laid down last night, feeling bad
Thinking of the good rides I once have had
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

spoken: Hey, man.

If I could call back when my car was new
I would do all of you women's driving for you
But it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now

I taken it to a mechanic, and the doctor too
They say "Your car is too old, there's nothing I can do."
Oh, it's backfiring now, oh, it's backfiring now
I really wants to use it, but it's backfiring now
Title: Lean To One Woman - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:01:14 PM
Lean To One Woman - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/pnL57iF0jSQ

Lyrics:
If you have two, three women, you can't treat them all right
One look for you at noontime, other one just at night
You got to lean to one woman, oh, lean to one woman
You got to lean to one woman to make her think you mean her any good

The way you gotta do to make her sure
Just have one woman to darken your door
You got to lean to one woman, oh, lean to one woman
You got to lean to one woman to make her think you mean her any good

If you have three or four women it will work out fast
The next thing you know it'll be your "Whoa, mule."
You got to lean to one woman, oh, lean to one woman
You got to lean to one woman to make her think you mean her any good

spoken: Oh, step on it, boy.

I'll tell you something, boys, [] [] [] wrong
Two or three women will let the wagon bring you home
You got to lean to one woman, oh, lean to one woman
You got to lean to one woman to make her think you mean her any good

Leaning to one's wrong, there's wrong in this place
But anyway is better than six feet of dirt in your face
You got to lean to one woman, oh, lean to one woman
You got to lean to one woman to make her think you mean her any good

Leaning to one woman is a thing of past
When I'm through with this woman, I'll have leaned my last
You got to lean to one woman, oh, lean to one woman
You got to lean to one woman to make her think you mean her any good
Title: I Can't Go Wrong - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:02:28 PM
I Can't Go Wrong - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/sPxS8LNAGO0

Lyrics:
Now, the government said right from the start
Do as he said do, we will do our part
Lord, the government's before me, oh, and I can't go wrong
Oh, the reason I'm singing this old lonesome song

The government went to Rockefeller, it [makes] no sand
He says, "Any way, government, to get this world to stand."
Lord, the government's before me, oh, and I can't go wrong
Now, that's the reason why I'm singing this old lonesome song

spoken: Play it, man, play it.
spoken: Yeah, the government's before us.

He went to Ford Brothers and told them like a man
They didn't care to sign any close there on their plan
Lord, the government is before me, oh, and I can't go wrong
And that's the reason why I'm singing this old lonesome song

It's on windows and doors in the shape of a bird
You don't have to wonder, or neither say you heard
Lord, the government is before me, oh, and I can't go wrong
And that's the reason why I'm singing this old lonesome song

spoken: Oh, fiddle that thing.
Title: Dead Wagon Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:03:44 PM
Dead Wagon Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E
Main guitar position: E
Fiddle position: E
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/aNsWIIm9si0

Lyrics:
spoken: [Yikes], what is that?
spoken: That's the ambulance

I hear the dead wagon rolling, it's something going on wrong, sweet baby
I hear the dead wagon rolling, it's something going on wrong
It must be carrying my baby
Eeee, from my happy home

Once that wagon rolls, it's something going on wrong, sweet baby
When the wagon rolls, it's something going on wrong
That will be my sweet mama
Eeee, left my happy home

spoken: Oh, play it man

The wagon is busy, as busy as it can be, good Lordy
The wagon is busy, as busy as it can be
Now the reason I know it
Eeee, took my woman from me

When they took my baby, I couldn't do nothing but cry, good Lordy
They took my baby, I couldn't do nothing but cry
That will be alright
Eeee, I'll see you by and by
Title: She's Going To Her Lonesome Grave - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
She's Going To Her Lonesome Grave - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Y_-WlB0JmDU

Lyrics:
There she goes, as they go driving slow
She has gone to her lonesome grave
How lonesome am I?  I wish that I could die
She has gone to her lonesome grave
I sit around praying I'll see her someday
How lonesome am I?  I wish that I could die
She's the only one that my poor heart ever craved
She has gone to her lonesome grave

There she goes, as they go driving slow
She has gone to her lonesome grave
How lonesome am I?  I wish that I could die
She has gone to her lonesome grave
I sit around praying I'll see her someday
How lonesome am I?  I wish that I could die
She's the only one that my poor heart ever craved
She has gone to her lonesome grave
Title: Fingering With Your Fingers - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:06:12 PM
Fingering With Your Fingers - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/tedG2MkdbYM

Lyrics:
Instrumental
Title: If You Don't Want Me Please Don't Dog Me 'Round - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:07:25 PM
If You Don't Want Me Please Don't Dog Me 'Round - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/eWD9My_L-os

Lyrics:
If you don't want me, please don't dog me around
If you don't want me, please don't dog me around
If she don't dog me 'round, I'd rather leave your town
If you don't want me, please don't dog me 'round

I'd rather be in the river, floating like a log
Rather be in the river, floating like a log
Be in the river, just floating like a log
Than to be 'round here, you treat me like your dog

He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man and he just done moved to town
Done sold his nuts, now he is walking 'round

spoken:  Oh, step on it.

And, let down your window and turn your lamp down low
Let down your window and turn your lamp down low
Let down your window and turn your lamp down low
Gonna make you love me, baby just before I go

spoken:  Oh, step on it.

I ain't no milkman and no milkman's son
I ain't no milkman and no milkman's son
I ain't no milkman and I ain't no milkman's son
But I can churn your butter 'til your milkman come

Now, 'cause you're in town, you need not think you're wise
Just 'cause you're in town, you need not think you're wise
'Cause you in town you needn't think you're wise
'Cause I got something, job right between your eyes

Edited 8/13/21 to pick up corrections from gmeyer, Johnm, Harry
Title: Wake Me Just Before Day - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:09:26 PM
Wake Me Just Before Day - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/y3ARhCrWH2c

Lyrics:
Run in here, baby, don't do me this way
Wake me and shake me just before day
Oh, baby, please wake me just before day
I can tell you something to drive your blues away

Blues is a worry stretches on your mind
Can't get a woman you love, you worry all the time
Oh, baby, please wake me just before day
I can tell you something, baby, to drive your blues away

spoken: Oh, step on it.

To love a woman that don't love you
Now you so blue you don't know what to do
Oh, baby, please wake me just before day
I can tell you something to drive your blues away

When you're asleep, all night through
Wake me before day, I'll be so loving to you
Oh, baby, please wake me just before day
I can tell you something to drive your blues away
Title: Old Grey Mule, You Ain't What You Used To Be - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:10:39 PM
Old Grey Mule, You Ain't What You Used To Be - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/pkRDNRBJoCk

Lyrics:
My old mule, he ain't no good to me
He can't carry no rider and bring [it] [] [] []
Old grey mule, you ain't what you used to be
Yeah, the way you riding it now, sure ain't fooling me

Now you've eaten all my corn, wasted all my hay
You ain't no good for riding, night or day
Old grey mule, you ain't what you used to be
Yeah, the way you riding it now, sure ain't fooling me

spoken: Oh, [] []

You cutting home, [can't get] a trail
[] [] [] and you can swish your tail
Old grey mule, you ain't what you used to be
Yeah, the way you riding it now, sure ain't fooling me

After I [], [] on your back
[] [] [] [] and bring your rider back
Old grey mule, you ain't what you used to be
Yeah, the way you riding it now, sure ain't fooling me

spoken: Go on, [].  You don't get to work, no-how. [] [] [] [] [].
spoken: Whoa, what's the matter with you?
Title: What's The Name Of That Thing? - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:11:48 PM
What's The Name Of That Thing? - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/5NeSJcA7Tbg

Lyrics:
Baby cooks [her] morning, to my appetite
Tastes so good to me, can't enough of it at night
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me

Says it ain't no turkey, can't be no goose
[] [] [] [], [dress] to turn it loose
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me

Run around my kitchen, peep through a crack
Seen my gal [] [] [] []
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me

Well, it ain't no hen, can't be no guinea
[] [] [], daddy, really got-a-plenty
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me

Say's it ain't no horse, can't be no mule
Any man don't like it, he's nothing but a fool
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me

spoken: Oh, [name] it

Well, it ain't no steak, supposed to be []
Does me good from my head to my heel
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me

Says it ain't no mutton, can't be no pork
Eat it long time, it gets like a billy goat [jelly roll?]
What's the name of that thing? What's the name of that thing?
What's the name of that thing? I believe it's tasting good to me
Title: Stir It Now - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:12:54 PM
Stir It Now - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/8udg85qHhAw

Lyrics:
Says I got the stove, my baby's got the pan
Stir her bread for another man
Oh, she's stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow

Said, me and my baby had a falling out
[] [] [] was all about
It was stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow

spoken: Oh, stir it.

Because I love women and she loves men
Sister wait as [] begin
Just stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow

Run around my kitchen, peep through a crack
Seen my gal cooking [a dinner I like]
Just stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow

spoken: Oh, stir it.

Says, run here, baby, set down on my knee
Just want to tell you how you worry me
About stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow

Went to my window, couldn't peek through my blind
Heard my bed popping and my baby crying
She was stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow

spoken: Oh, stir it.

Says look-a-here, baby, say you stir it so fast
I'm gonna stir up on your yas-yas-yas
About stirring it now, oh, stir it now
It ain't much [to spin] but stir it anyhow
Title: Jumping Out Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
Jumping Out Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/E-lz7sTP8QU

Lyrics:
Man and his wife lived in a shack
Had a mule, he named him Jumping Jack
Because he done jumped out, oh, I mean he done jumped out
Even down to his wife, crying about him jumping out

As he jump out every night, half past ten
Every time he jumps out, puts him back again
Because he done jumped out, oh, I mean he done jumped out
Even down to his wife, crying about him jumping out

Said, the woman told the man, "Jack ought to be dead."
"Jump out every night after you go to bed."
Because he done jumped out, Lord, I mean he done jumped out
Even down to his wife, crying about him jumping out

spoken: Oh, yeah.

Man told his wife, "Ought to be ashamed,"
"Jack was dead, he'd be out just the same."
Because he done jumped out, oh, I mean he done jumped out
Even down to his wife, crying about him jumping out

I ain't no airplane, sure can't fly
Jumping out kill me, won't you please let me die
Because he done jumped out, oh, I mean he done jumped out
Even down to his wife, crying about him jumping out
Title: Radio Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:15:09 PM
Radio Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: half-spanish
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/JQNunMm6FSc

Lyrics:
I'm going to go up to a station, listen at your radio
I'm going to go up to a station, listen at your radio
Ah, know you [] [], hoo babe, [] [I say] everywhere you go

I can hear you [talking], [] on your telephone
I can hear you talking, [] on your telephone
[] might as well tell me, hoo babe, [every] [] I've taken is wrong

spoken: Hey, yeah.

I can hear you laughing and can see your smiling face
I can hear you laughing and can see your smiling face
Ah, my regular tells me, hoo babe, [] [] come back [in] my [place]

I go to bed at night, I hold my radio in my hand
I go to bed at night, baby, I hold my radio in my hand
I [] [] [] and tell me, hoo babe, [] [] another man
Title: Please Don't Give My Love Away - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
Please Don't Give My Love Away - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: half-spanish
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/5JzIRnDbyB4

Lyrics:
I had a good woman, she treat me nice and kind
You care for [remind me] till you ought to lost my mind
You can call to me baby, leaving my good, happy home
You give away my love, you know that you doing me wrong
And I'm still begging you, baby, please don't give my love away
Ah, because I'm sick and down, baby, your daddy going to be well some day

I gave you my money, left me to go cold in hand
You taken my money and give it to your other man
You tell the other women you use me to be your tool
Hitch me to your buggy and you drive me for your mule
And I'm still begging you, baby, please don't give my love away
Just because I'm sick and down and can't use it, your daddy going to be well some day

spoken: Oh, yeah, man.

Well, my mama dead, my daddy across the sea
I ain't got nobody to love and care for me
One thing woman, you'd better stop, I mean, fooling about
I catch you giving away my loving, you got to ask man [] [down]
And I'm still begging you, baby, please don't give my love away
Just because I'm sick and down and can't use it, baby, you know your daddy going to get well some day
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: frankie on September 17, 2017, 09:20:59 PM
more to come...  transcriptions of the musicians in their 'orbit' to follow: Walter Vinson, Charlie McCoy, Rosie Mae Moore, Mississippi Blacksnakes, Mississippi Mudsteppers, Jackson Blue Boys, Sam Hill from Louisville (ahem... Vinson...) and others...
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on September 17, 2017, 09:24:23 PM
My goodness, Frank, what a generous thing to do--and time-consuming!  Thanks so much, and I can see I've got my work cut out for me, entering these all in Weeniepedia.  Thank you, on behalf of all Weenies and the site!
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Prof Scratchy on September 18, 2017, 01:36:26 AM
What an amazing resource! Thanks frankie for sharing these.


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Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Lastfirstface on September 18, 2017, 08:16:14 AM
Thanks for posting this stuff, Frankie. I used to check Donegone.net for keys and positions for the Sheiks and satellite bands, but I remember you saying it was a pain to get the site back up.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on September 18, 2017, 10:09:18 AM
Thanks for posting all this, Frankie!
Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Pan on September 18, 2017, 02:45:04 PM
Thank you for generously sharing all this information with us, Frankie!

I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with the done gone website. I hope you'll get it sorted one day, it was another fine resource indeed!

Pan
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Mr.OMuck on September 18, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
Wow Frank! Amazing compiling/scholarship...Thanks!

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on September 19, 2017, 08:18:45 AM
Thank you, Frank. You have done an incredible amount of work and made a great contribution.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: frankie on September 19, 2017, 07:44:31 PM
My goodness, Frank, what a generous thing to do--and time-consuming!  Thanks so much, and I can see I've got my work cut out for me, entering these all in Weeniepedia.  Thank you, on behalf of all Weenies and the site!

I don't mean to make work for you..  if it's something that I can do, I can also take the time at some point to put them in there. The transcriptions can certainly stand some improvement, so it might be good to work through them methodically like we did at one point with Lemon's lyrics.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on September 20, 2017, 05:41:00 AM
It's okay, I wasn't angling for assistance, Frank.  I like putting stuff in there--it's kind of peaceful and contemplative.  But what I think I may do is, where I can find them, add youtube links to your posts of lyrics that have gaps, so that folks can listen and possibly fill in the gaps.  And where there are pre-existing dedicated threads, like a Walter Vinson Lyrics thread, I may put all of his lyrics you've transcribed in that thread.  Just so you know, we already have all of Alec Johnson's cuts transcribed and in his own thread, so there's no need to add those.  It's a ton of work you've done, first transcribing all of those lyrics and then posting them here--that's plenty!  Thanks again for sharing.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on September 20, 2017, 10:54:45 AM
I started the other day listening to the tunes that had bracketed bits in them; didn't get super far but got a few, some of which I'm not sure of, but I'll share and folks can double check:

Driving That Thing

1.1 could it be WHACKING?

5.1 Raggedy is right

on the choruses, could it be All the LAWS uptown?
meaning cops instead of lawyers?



Jazz Fiddler

I think it's take UP your bow in the first verse

I wonder if it should be a SUPPLE heel and he pronounces supple "soup-le"



We Both Are Feeling Good Right Now

2.4 I hear "just fine"

missing bit is TRULY ALL RIGHT



Jake Leg Blues

1.1 LIVELY
1.3 WHAT-A HE HAVE HAD is right
1.4 TALK and FOLKS are right


West Jackson Blues
5.3 JUST I think is the missing word there; Bo stumbles a bit



Sitting On Top of the World No. 2

in 5.3 and 6.3 I think it should be
You NEEDN'T to worry

6.2 Just SAY THERE'S poor Walter, used to be YOUR slave



Times Done Got Hard
2.3 Run the LOAFIN' MAN away

4.3 (perhaps) THAT DEAR man will come?.

5.1 and 5.2 maybe: the men ATTEMPT THEY'RE BLIND (in other words pretend to be blind and beg)


Chris



Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on September 20, 2017, 12:37:50 PM
Hi all,
I have a question about the personnel on the Sheiks recording of "Jake Leg Blues".  Am I correct in thinking that Bo Carter sings lead, Walter Vinson sings the harmony on the chorus, Lonnie plays the fiddle, and there is only one back-up guitar (Walter?)?  I like to acknowledge all of the musicians when I make entries in Weeniepedia.  Thanks for any help.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: frankie on September 20, 2017, 07:44:52 PM
John - thanks for the heads up on Alec Johnson...  I'll reserve those or maybe take a look at the thread. I doubt I have anything to add - he was curiously well-enunciated. Thanks for splitting out the "orbit" transcriptions - if it's ok, I'll just keep dumping them into the "orbit" thread and then you can re-assign as necessary...  it'll simplify things for me as I'm trying to get this done between other things I'm not quite getting done and the transcriptions are way better off here than on my laptop.

Jake Leg sounds to me like two guitars - they're usually basically right on top of each other, except when the change comes to the VI chord, where they occasionally seem to be not of the same mind, so to speak. You're right about Bo and Walter's roles and I think they're both playing guitar. Bo's might be the slightly more audible, in my opinion.

Chris - most of those changes look good to me...  ("TRULY ALL RIGHT" - a ringing endorsement!)... I can be more active on editing the original posts in a couple of weeks. There are plenty of holes peppered throughout, but the MOST vexing holes are the ones on the sides with Sam Chatmon singing - the last 10 songs or so....  they are kinda whupped records and even though I think he's pretty easy to understand in his re-discovery era recordings, these older ones just stumped me more than I expected.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on September 20, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
Hi Frank,
I think I have a couple of things on "Bootlegger's Blues":

First line of first verse:
   Pack of whiskey on my back, and the sheriffs is on my track

First line of second verse:
   If you want to have to leave home, you just mess with a bottle of corn

Spoken during solo:
   Spoken: Boy, they'd sure get to hear about liquor

That's it, I think.

All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on September 20, 2017, 10:34:51 PM
Jake Leg sounds to me like two guitars - they're usually basically right on top of each other, except when the change comes to the VI chord, where they occasionally seem to be not of the same mind, so to speak. You're right about Bo and Walter's roles and I think they're both playing guitar. Bo's might be the slightly more audible, in my opinion.

I totally agree on this, for what it's worth. Also right at the beginning you can hear the quieter guitar playing bass runs into the C chord as the louder guitar continues boom-chang-ing. Such a great song and melody.

Frank, I'll try to get to some more of these myself in the next couple of days. Always a pleasure to revisit the Sheiks.
Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on September 26, 2017, 08:42:09 PM
Frank -- I went through the Sam tracks that had gaps. Some of those are really impossible to hear; hopefully there's better copies somewhere.


Old Grey Mule, You Ain't What You Used To Be - Mississippi Sheiks

Lots of gaps still

1.2 ?

1.4 (and the rest) SAY, the way YOU?RE RIDING NOW, sure ain?t SUITING me.


spoken: Oh, NO SHE AIN?T

3.2 CAN ?? YOUR BACK?

4.1 ?
4.2 ?
spoken: Go on, MADAM. YOU?RE NO GOOD FOR WORK, NO-HOW. YOU DON?T WANT NOTHING BUT KICK.



What's The Name Of That Thing? - Mississippi Sheiks
1.1 Baby cooks IN THE morning, CURES my appetite,
1.4 (and the rest) ?NOW I believe it?s tasting? (or it might be NOW, REALLY tasting, but I think he?s slurring believe)


2.2 GET ON TO IT EASY, AND I DRESS AND turn it loose

3.2 Seen my gal WASHIN? THE VERY SAME MEAT I LIKE

4.2 HELP YO?SELF daddy?

5.2 ANY MAN DON?T LIKE HIS MEAT, nothing but a fool

spoken: NAME is right I think

6.1 supposed to be VEAL

7.2 BILLY GOAT is right


Stir It Now - Mississippi Sheiks


1.1 Says I got the SPOON, my baby's got the pan
1.2 WON?T stir her bread for another man
1.4 might be: It ain?t much FITTIN? but stir it anyhow

2.2 phonetically I hear ?FOUGHT YOU RING IT WAS ALL ABOUT? ? obviously wrong but maybe that'll help someone hear what it really is

3.2 THIS THE WAY THAT FUSS begin

4.2 LOOKIN? a dinner I like (I think he meant to sing something like he sang in What?s the Name of That Thing but messes up because he?s going to fast)


6.1 ?couldn?t SEE through my blind




Radio Blues - Mississippi Sheiks

gotta come back to this one, it?s rough, and it's not Sam singing -- maybe Sonny Boy Nelson? or it could be Lonnie.



Please Don't Give My Love Away - Mississippi Sheiks
1.2 YOU KEPT ON WORRYIN? ME till?
1.3 YOU THE CAUSE OF ME, baby?


3.3 IT?S one thing, woman
3.4 I wonder if Sam meant to sing: YOU GOT A MAN DOWNTOWN but reverses the last word


Are some of these records missing? B&GR lists some that aren't on the Document.
Chris
Title: Re: The New Sittin' On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Post by: mwbutter on September 15, 2019, 05:53:28 AM
Two thoughts on the first two lines of this tune.

First, I think it's "Maybe today, early or late" in the first line.

Second, I think it's a Cadillac A, not eight. As far as I can tell, there was a model A, but no 8. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cadillac_vehicles#Early_Antique)

-Butter


The New Sittin' On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lyrics:
Maybe today, or [] late
My baby got movements like a old Cadillac eight
I'll never leave her, because I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

I'll go away, I won't stay long
Thinking about that sweet thing I've left at home
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

My baby loves me, tries to treat me right
Gives me her loving both day and night
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

My baby says one thing, I know it is true
"Can't have another man and be good to you"
I'll never leave her, because I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Up in Chicago, long ways from home
Wonder if somebody else, carrying my loving on
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

I'm going home, buy a lock and key
To keep these men from stealing my loving from me
I'll never leave her, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on September 15, 2019, 10:39:31 AM
"Cadillac Eight" would refer to a Cadillac with a V-8 engine, which, according to the Wiki entry you cite, was available beginning in 1915.

This doesn't mean that the Sheiks didn't sing "Cadillac A," just that "Cadillac 8" cannot be ruled out.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: catyron on January 09, 2020, 12:20:57 AM
Hello,

 Thanks for that great load of lyrics. Really super-helpful.

However... on "Back To Mississippi," last verse, second line, i think it's a "Mississippi train" (not a "Mississippi strain" that will satisfy his soul -- because that is the train that will take him back to Mississippi.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on February 02, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
I've been working with a fiddle player lately and thought Stop and Listen Blues would be a good fit. After transcribing the lyrics I compared with weeniepedia and found a few differences from what I was hearing. This was part of Frank's massive and generous download of all his transcriptions (with discography, tunings, etc) but doesn't seem to have had the usual discussion before moving to weeniepedia. I thought I would post my version here. The major differences seem to be plurallizing "bells they shine" or "shinin'", in 2.1 & 2.3 and, well, just leaving the ending off "bell it to'" at the end of 4.1 and 4.3. WV is pretty consistent about not pronouncing a lot of glottal stop consonant endings, and even vowels that mess with the flow and rhythm. I think deciding between "tolled" or "toned" is more projection on the part of the listener and he doesn't really sing either. A few other minor spots where it is pretty hard to hear, but here's how I hear it.

Wax

Stop and Listen Blues
Mississippi Sheiks

Ever’ day have been, baby, long old lonesome day
[N’], don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, yeah, ever’
Day have been [] long old lonesome day
Cryin’, seems like tomor’ is the same old way

Cryin’, smokestack black, baby, bells they shine like gold
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, oh
Smokestack black, bells they shinin’ like gold
Cryin’, I found my baby layin’ on the coolin’ board

Don't a hearse look lonesome, mama, rollin’ 'fore your do’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, don’t a
Hearse look lonesome rollin’ 'fore your do’
Cryin’ she gone, she gone, won't be back no mo’

Oh, stop and listen, hear how the bell it to’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, oh
Stop and listen, hear the bell it to’
I had a sweet little faro but she's dead and gone

Cryin’, followed my baby down to the buryin’ groun’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, I
Followed my baby to the buryin’ groun’
It was hackney horses standin’ all aroun’

https://youtu.be/PPgvoi0Gxbc

Title: Mississipi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Dr Pryor on May 31, 2020, 09:29:36 AM
Hi and thank you for posting "He calls that religion" ad on the front page! I'm having difficulties sorting out the exact lyrics of that song. Can you help?

Well, the preacher used to preach
To try to stay atoned
But now he's preachin'
Just to buy jellyroll

Well, he calls* that religion (*"calls", "call", or "called"?)
Yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
But I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

It* was at a church last night ("I was", "It was", "He was"?)
Had desire to be
The old preacher
Was tryin' to take my wife from me

Oh, he calls that religion
Yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

Preacher always
He was a mighty true man
He gives his commence? command? commerce?
And he couldn't understand

Well, he calls that religion
Yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
But I know he’s goin' to hell when he dies

(guitar & fiddle)

(Oh yes, he calls that religion)

He will swear he's keepin'
God's command
Have* women fussin' 'n fightin' ("Have", "How"?)
All over land

And then he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
But I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

Therein the people
Stopped goin' to church
They know that preacher
Was tryin-a do too much

But still he calls that religion
Still, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
But I know he's goin' to hell when he dies

Old Deacon Jones (or other name?)
He was a preachin' king
They caught him 'round the house
Tryin-a shake that thing

Oh, he calls that religion
Yes, he calls that religion
Well, he calls that religion
But I know he’s goin' to hell when he dies

Oh yes, he calls that religion

[Category: Mississipi Sheiks lyrics]
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 31, 2020, 09:53:52 AM
Hi Dr Pryor,
Please check the tags first to see if there is already a dedicated thread devoted to whatever artist's lyrics you'd like to post, thanks.  I'll give a crack at changes in "He Calls That Religion":

https://youtu.be/ukHC4lXRohA

   1.2 To try to SAVE SOULS

In the first refrain, he says "calls" every time.

   2.1 WAS IN church last night, HAPPY AS I COULD be,

   3 Preacher ALWAYS [ALWAYS is a surname here], he was a mighty true man, he gives his SERMONS, and he couldn't understand

   4 . . . Have women fussin' and fightin' all over THE land

   5  THE REASON the people stopped going to church, they knowed that preacher was tryin' TO do too much

   6 . . . tryin' TO shake that thing

All best,
Johnm 
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Dr Pryor on June 01, 2020, 09:54:37 AM
Hi Johnm,
OK for tags and sorry for that! Indeed I found a proposition by member Frankie in 2017.

In some refrains, he hears:
Well, he calls that religion/Yes, he calls that religion/Well, he calls that religion/WHEN I know he's goin' to hell when he dies (refrains where I transcribed "well" - there's no doubt about refrains where he sings "but")

1.2 OK, no doubt!

1.4 To buy jellyroll, that is to pay for sexual intercourse, isn't it?

2.1 He does not pronounce the "I" but that's clearly the meaning

3. I would never have guessed that "always" was a name and was in for a mistranslation! Is this a pun?
Sermons! No doubt. What an accent...

4. What is this preacher doing wrong according to you? Are the women fighting to win his favours or are they figfhting because he's preaching badly?
After several listenings, I hear "How women fussing and fighting all over land" (Can't hear "Have", nor "the" (land). That is the only verse I remaion dissatisfied with.

5 and 6. OK! I wrote it the way I heard it pronounced, sort of "tryina shake..." I assume Jones is shaking his male appendage, isn't he?

What sort of a scandal would such lyrics cause nowadays if sung by Dr Dre or Snoop Dog...
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on June 01, 2020, 10:15:12 AM
Dr Pryor,
1.4 You're right
2.1 The line begins with "Was" but he clearly sings, "happy as I could be"
3 "Always" may not be a surname, but if it is not, it is some pretty tortured syntax!
4.  The women are fighting for exclusive rights to his sexual favors.  I hear both "have" and "the" in the last line

I don't think anyone would object to a rapper doing something like this--certainly their fans wouldn't object.  They do a lot of stuff next to which this is pretty tame, and there is a long history of anti-clerical sentiment in blues lyrics.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Dr Pryor on June 02, 2020, 03:09:35 PM
Hi and thanks for your explanations. i wasn't aware of such anticlerical tradition in the Blues (maybe their answer to "Devil music"?). I was aware though of sexual explicit lyrics!
Can you help explain "shake that thing"? Litterally translated into French it would mean "shake his weenie" (homage!). Is this it?
All the best!
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on June 02, 2020, 03:18:08 PM
Hi Dr Pryor,
For more examples of anti-clerical lyrics in blues see Hi Henry Brown's "Preacher's Blues", Blind Joe Taggart and Josh White's "Scandalous And A Shame", Frank Stokes and Dan Sane's "You Shall", Bo Carter's "Who's Been Here?", Cat Iron's "Jimmy Bell" Mance Lipscomb's "Heel And Toe Polka", and many, many more.  "Shake that thing" can certainly have the meaning that you gave for it, but it can also refer to a woman shaking her hips, and the sexual act itself.  You can usually tell from the context in which it is used which meaning is intended, but sometimes it seems like it is just sort of non-specifically sexual.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Dr Pryor on June 02, 2020, 04:06:31 PM
Thanks! And I will investigate all the exemples you gave (usually, I refer to the title to guess what the song is about and then try to trancribe. It would have been difficult with these)
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on October 27, 2020, 02:34:03 PM
Hi all,
The Mississippi Sheiks recorded "Shake Hands And Tell Me Goodbye" at a session in Atlanta on October 25, 1931 with just Walter Vinson and Lonnie Chatmon on board for the session, and Walter backing Lonnie out of Eb position on the guitar. What a pretty tune--every time it comes to that "sweet baby", so nice. Walter seems to forget the lyrics on the front end of the second line in the last verse. Here is "Shake Hands And Tell Me Goodbye":

https://youtu.be/-Pt9-lzPjGg

INTRO

I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don't want you no more, sweet baby, you didn't love me nohow
Last night, the night before, I saw another man knocking on your door
I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don't want you no more, sweet baby, you didn't love me, nohow
I worked all the winter, the winter was tough, with another man, just a-struttin' your stuff
I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

SOLO

I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I'm leavin' town tomorrow, no use to sigh and cry
I was good when you were sick, and good when you was well, no use to pray when you're gettin' hell
I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

SOLO

I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye
I don't understand . . I could do, still, you pass me by
I worked all the winter in the chilly wind, you givin' your lovin' to the other men
I don't want you no more, sweet baby, shake hands and tell your daddy goodbye

Edited, 10/27 to pick up corrections from Harry

All best,
Johnm

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on October 27, 2020, 04:41:57 PM
I hear    "I don't want love you no more"  throughout the entire song

1.2 you didn't love me nohow

2.2 Lyrics missing
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on October 27, 2020, 05:28:59 PM
Thanks for getting those "want" mistakes, Harry. He does sing "you" in 1.2, but sneaks it in very fast. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 15, 2021, 04:57:01 PM
As I was working on a list of Sheiks numbers for another thread, I was adding frankie's tuning/position information and realized that this info has not been put into Weeniepedia, probably because of the work required to strip them out of each lyric post. So, I have done that, putting the info into a chronological list with Discography taken from Blues and Gospel Records. I hope this makes it more feasible to get this into Weeniepedia. If a word doc is more helpful for formatting I am attaching a doc to this post.

I had started to compile position totals so I will add that when completed. (Edit - has been added at bottom)

Wax


Legend (taken from B&GR)
g – guitar
vn – violin
md - mandolin
v - vocal
sp - spoken

Mississippi Sheiks
Walter Vinson, (Jacobs), g/v-1; Lonnie Chatmon, vn; poss Bo Chatmon, 2nd vn-2; unknown, sp-3.
Shreveport, LA      Monday, 17 February 1930

Driving That Thing -1,3
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Alberta Blues -1
Actual pitch: A-flat (s)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Winter Time Blues -1
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

The Sheik Waltz
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: F/B-flat/E-flat
Fiddle position: F/B-flat/E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

The Jazz Fiddler -1
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Sitting On Top Of The World -1
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Stop and Listen Blues -1
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lonely One In This Town -1,2
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Mississippi Sheiks With Bo Carter
Bo Chatmon, v; Lonnie Chatmon, vn; Sam Chatmon, v-1/g; Walter Vinson, g.
   San Antonio, TX      Tuesday, 10 June 1930

We Both Are Feeling Good Right Now -1
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: B-flat

Cracking Them Things -1
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: B-flat

Grinding Old Fool-1
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: G

Jake Leg Blues -1
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: B-flat

Back To Mississippi -1
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

West Jackson Blues
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Mississippi Sheiks
Walter Vinson, v/g/sp-1/yodeling-2; poss. Lonnie Chatmon, vn; Bo Chatmon, v-3/sp-4/g-5.
   San Antonio, TX      Thursday, 12 June 1930

Jail Bird Love Song -3,5
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Yodeling Fiddling Blues -2,5
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Baby Keeps Stealin' Lovin' On Me -3,5
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

River Bottom Blues -4,5
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Bootlegger's Blues
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Loose Like That -1,4
Actual pitch: B
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Walter Vinson, v/g; prob. Lonnie Chatmon, vn.
   King Edward Hotel, Jackson, MS   Monday, 15 December 1930

Sitting On Top Of The World No. 2
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Your Good Man Caught The Train And Gone
Actual pitch: G (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Times Done Got Hard
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Unhappy Blues
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Still I'm Travelling On
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Mississippi Mud Steppers
Prob. Walter Vinson, g-1/prob. g-2; prob. Charlie McCoy, md, unknown, vn-3; one of them, sp-4
   King Edward Hotel, Jackson, MS   Monday, 15 December 1930

frankie did not cover these but they are included in the Sheiks B&GR entry. If someone would like to assess them that would be great - Wax

Jackson Stomp -1,4

Farewell Waltz -1

Vicksburg Stomp -2

Morning Glory Waltz -1

Sunset Waltz -4

Alma Waltz -1,3

Mississippi Sheiks
Walter Vinson, v/g; prob. Lonnie Chatmon, vn.
   King Edward Hotel, Jackson, MS   Friday, 19 December 1930

Honey Babe Let The Deal Go Down
Actual pitch: B-flat (f)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

She Ain't No Good
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Ramrod Blues
Actual pitch: G-flat (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Stop And Listen Blues No. 2
Actual pitch: D-flat (s)
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Church Bell Blues
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Atlanta, GA         Saturday, 24 October 1931

Please Don't Wake It Up
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Please Baby
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Things About Comin' My Way
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

The World Is Going Wrong
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G (possibly half-spanish)
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

She's A Bad Girl
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Tell Me What The Cats Fight About
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Kind Treatment
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Livin' In A Strain
Actual pitch: C (s)
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lazy, Lazy River
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Too Long
Actual pitch: D
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Atlanta, GA         Saturday, 24 October 1931

Shake Hands And Tell Me Goodbye
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Bed Spring Poker
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

When You're Sick With The Blues
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

I've Got Blood in My Eyes for You
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: F
Fiddle position: F
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Walter Vinson, g/v-1;  Lonnie Chatmon, vn-2/v-3; unknown, p-4.
   Grafton, WI         c. July 1932

Shooting High Dice -1,2
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Isn't A Pain To Me -2,3
Actual pitch: A
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

She's Crazy About Her Lovin' -1,2
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Tell Me To Do Right -1,2
Actual pitch: A
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

The New Stop And Listen Blues -1,2
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Go 'Way Woman -1,2
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

New Shake That Thing -1,2
Actual pitch: A
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

The New Sittin' On Top Of The World -2,3
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

He Calls That Religion -1,2
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Don't Wake It Up -1,2
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Please Baby -2/3
Actual pitch: D (s)
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

I'll Be Gone, Long Gone 1,4
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: n/a
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a
Piano accompaniment

Prob. Lonnie Chatmon, vn; Walter Vinson (Jacobs), v/prob. g; unknown, g.
   Chicago, IL         Tuesday, 20 June 1933

She’s Got Something Crazy
Actual pitch: G (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Kitty Cat Blues
Actual pitch: D-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: Dropped D

Show Me What You Got
Actual pitch: D
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Lonnie Chatmon, vn; Bo Chatmon, v-1/g-1; Walter Vinson, g-2/v-2.
   Texas Hotel, San Antonio, TX      Monday, 26 March 1934

Hitting The Numbers -1
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

It's Done Got Wet -1
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Pencil Won't Write No More - 1
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

I Am The Devil – 1
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Baby, Please Make A Change - 1
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

She's Got Something Crazy - 1
Actual pitch: G (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

You'll Work Down To Me Someday - 2
Actual pitch: G (s)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Somebody's Got To Help You - 2
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Good Morning Blues - 2
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Blues On My  Mind - 2
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lonnie Chatmon, vn/sp-1; Walter Vinson, g/v/sp-1; Bo Chatmon (Carter), g/v/sp-1; Dan Hornsby, sp-1.
   Texas Hotel, San Antonio, TX      Tuesday, 27 March 1934

Lonesome Grave Took My Baby
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Pop Skull Blues
Actual pitch: E-flat (f)
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Sweet Maggie
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Sales Tax -1
Actual pitch: A-flat (f)
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: D figures up the neck

Lonnie Chatmon, vn; Bo Chatmon, v-1/g-1; Walter Vinson, g-2/v-3.
   New Orleans, LA         Saturday, 19 January 1935

It's Backfiring Now-1
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lean To One Woman -1
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

The World Round-Up -1   Issued but no example found

Do Right Blues -1   Issued but no example found

I Can't Go Wrong -1
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Dead Wagon Blues -2,3
Actual pitch: E
Main guitar position: E
Fiddle position: E
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

She's Going To Her Lonesome Grave -2,3
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: E-flat
Fiddle position: E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Fingering With Your Fingers -3
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Chatman Brothers (Lonnie and Sam)
Lonnie Chatmon, vn/v; Sam Chatmon, g/v; Eugene Powell (Sonny Boy Nelson), g on some titles. There is one singer on most if not all titles; it is not known which singer sings on which titles.
   St Charles Hotel, New Orleans, LA         Thursday, 15 October 1936

If You Don't Want Me Please Don't Dog Me 'Round
Actual pitch: B-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Wake Me Just Before Day
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Old Grey Mule, You Ain't What You Used To Be
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

What's The Name Of That Thing?
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Stir It Now
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: C
Fiddle position: C
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Jumping Out Blues
Actual pitch: G
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Radio Blues
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: half-spanish
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Please Don't Give My Love Away
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: half-spanish
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a


Position breakdown

G – 27  (Walter: 17 Bo: 7 Sam: 3)
B flat – 21   (Walter: 18 Bo: 2 Sam: 1)
E flat – 13  (Walter: 13)
Dropped D – 10  (Walter: 10)
C – 7  (Walter: 5 Sam: 2)
F – 5  (Walter: 5)
Half Spanish – 2 (Sam: 2)
E – 1  (Walter: 1)
F/Bflat/Eflat - 1. (Walter: 1)

All Sam’s numbers where the Chatmon Brothers session that frankie included, but was not included in the B&GR listing for the Mississippi Sheiks.

Take these numbers with a grain of salt. Possible counting mistakes and also some discography not clear.

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Tim Connor on July 16, 2021, 10:38:00 PM
I wouldn't get too focused on the key it sounds in--they weren't using electronic tuners, and the speeds on those old disc recorders weren't so precise anyway. I very much doubt the Sheiks ever played in Eb.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on July 17, 2021, 05:57:17 AM
Hi Tim Connor,
Actually the Sheiks played in Eb quite a lot. Lonnie Chatmon favored fiddling in flat keys, Bb, F and Eb especially, and his accompanists, mostly Walter Vinson, but Bo Carter as well, played out of those positions without using a capo, using closed positions and some partially open ones like their favorite Eb voicing, 6-6-5-0-4-6.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: gmeyer on August 11, 2021, 04:28:27 PM
I've been playing this recently and have listened to this a bunch, here is what I hear (my words in caps):

He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man but he just done moved to town
He's a country man and he just done moved to town
Done sold his NUTS, now he is walking 'round
(other Sheiks tunes mention peanuts and I am assuming that is what he is referring to...)

And, LAY down your window and turn your lamp down low
LAY down your window and turn your lamp down low
LAy down your window and turn your lamp down low
Gonna make you love me, baby just before I go

Now, 'cause you're in town, you need not think you're wise
Just 'cause you're in town, you need not think you're wise
'cause YOU in town you needn't think you're wise
'cause I got something, job right between your eyes

Old Threads live on! Thanks for all the tunes...

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on August 11, 2021, 04:51:11 PM
Hi gmeyer,
Please say what song you're talking about when you post. I assume it is "If You Don't Want Me Please Don't Dog Me 'Round". Is it? It's especially hard to tell what song it is if you post only the verses where you're proposing changes.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on August 13, 2021, 06:28:59 AM
Hi gmeyer,
I went back and listened to "If You Don't Want Me Please Don't Dog Me 'Round", and I think your suggestions of "nuts" is correct, as is "Cause you in town". I think Sam was singing "let" rather than "lay" in the other verse. Thanks for the catches.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on August 13, 2021, 12:04:19 PM
Sam was born with an old voice. Was in his 30s when he recorded this?


3.1 Please, don't dog me 'round, I'd rather leave your town 

Doesn't sound like "please". Could be "if she"

2.4 Than to be 'round here, you treat me like a your dog

4.4 Gonna make you love me, baby just be 'fore I go


Closing line;  'cause I got something, job right between your eyes   

Thought I heard "jarred right 'tween your eyes"  listening again it really sounds like "job"
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on August 13, 2021, 06:01:41 PM
Hi Harry,
I agree, 1.3 is:
   IF SHE don't dog me 'round, I'd rather leave your town
Also agree that the end of 2.4 is:
   treat me like YOUR dog
In 4.4, I think Sam does sing "before", but swallows the first syllable a bit.

I think in the tagline to the last verse, Sam may mean "jab" but pronounce it "job", just like John Hurt pronounced "stab" "stob".

all best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on April 22, 2022, 03:10:42 PM
I am currently unable to play guitar for about 6 months. I’ll discuss it in another topic as I think there are guitar related issues. Basically, I am having consecutive shoulder replacements, the first of which was a couple weeks ago.

So, to keep my hand in, so to speak, I have decided to start working on the Mississippi Sheiks lyrics, which were uploaded, mostly en mass, by frankie, quite some time ago when he was shutting down his Doggone site. I know this was a labor of love for frankie, but since most of the transcriptions have never had the “Weenie treatment” they haven’t been moved over to Weeniepedia. I’ll start working through, quoting frankie’s posts, supplying discographic info if any is missing, posting my own transcription based on frankie’s, with any corrections that seem appropriate, and open the floor for discussion. When discussion seems to wrap up I can post the “Weeniefied” transcriptions to Weeniepedia.

In order to stay organized I’ll work through fankie’s posts, starting with “Driving That Thing” and then, once we get through I’ll look back on some of the earlier postings in the topic as several of those seemed to need finalizing.

As always, we appreciate all the ears that want to tune in and help out.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on April 22, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
Driving That Thing - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/NKnr5lMyPe4

Lyrics:
Old Uncle Bill, he was a working man
Laid down and died with his hammer in his hand
From driving that thing, whoa, driving that thing
All the lawyers in town talking about him driving that thing

Old Uncle Bill, he lived uptown
Driving that thing has done carried him down
Whoa, driving that thing, whoa, driving that thing
Even down to the judge is talking about him driving that thing

Uncle Bill called the doctor, "Come here quick!
I done got my hammer out of fix!
I can't drive that thing
spoken: Come on, doctor, come on!
I can't drive that thing
All the lawyers uptown talking about him driving that thing

spoken: Whoa, drive it!

Uncle Bill got the doctor, the doctor said
"Driving that thing is going to kill you dead."
Oh, driving that thing, whoa, driving that thing
Even down to the judge is talking about him driving that thing

Uncle Bill was [raggedy], clean out of sight
Every time you meet him he would want to fight
About driving that thing, about driving that thing
All the lawyers uptown is talking about him driving that thing

Stayed out last night, the night before
Come home this morning knocking on his door
He's just from driving that thing, he's just from driving that thing
Even down to the judge is talking about him driving that thing

"Driving That Thing" was recorded February 17, 1930 at Shreveport, LA, with Walter Vinson, g/v; and Lonnie Chatman, vn. The only real change I made was changing "judge is" to "judges". It sounds more like what he says, even though he uses "is" with "lawyers uptown". Jackson was the state capitol and became the most populous city in the state in the 1920s, So, with the state Supreme Court, various appellate courts and numerous municipal courts, I'm sure there were lots of judges talking about old Uncle Bill, too. Wouldn't mind feedback on this point.

Wax

Edited 4/23/22 to reflect suggestions from Vintage Blues and Johnm
Edited 4/25/22 to reflect suggestion from banjochris
Edited 4/29/22 to reflect pronunciation

"Driving That Thing"

INTRO

Old Uncle Bill, he was a whackin’ man, laid down and died with his hammer in his hand
From drivin' that thing, oh, drivin' that thing
All the laws uptown talkin' 'bout him drivin' that thing

Old Uncle Bill, he lived uptown, drivin' that thing has done carried him down
Oh, drivin' that thing, oh, drivin' that thing
Even down to the judges talkin' 'bout him drivin' that thing

Uncle Bill called the doctor, says "Come here quick. I done carried my hammer out of fix”
I can't drive that thing (spoken: Come on, doctor, come on) Can't drive that thing
All the laws uptown talkin' 'bout him drivin' that thing
(spoken: Oh, drive it)

INSTRUMENTAL

Uncle Bill got the doctor, the doctor said "Drivin' that thing is going to kill you dead"
Oh, drivin' that thing, oh, drivin' that thing
Even down to the judges talkin' 'bout him drivin' that thing

Uncle Bill was raggedy, he stayed out of sight, every time you meet him he would wanna fight
About drivin' that thing, about drivin' that thing
All the laws uptown is talkin' 'bout him drivin' that thing

He stayed out last night, the night before, come home this mornin' knockin' on his door
He's just from drivin' that thing, he's just from drivin' that thing
Even down to the judges talkin' 'bout him drivin' that thing

CODA
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on April 22, 2022, 04:02:37 PM
I thought I heard "spikin' man" in the opening line.

1.4 All the lawyers in town uptown talking about him driving that thing

3.1 Uncle Bill called the doctor, says "Come here quick”
3.3 I can't drive that thing (spoken: Come on, doctor, come on) I can't drive that thing

5.1 Uncle Bill was raggedy, clean he stayed out of sight
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on April 22, 2022, 05:57:19 PM
Hi wax,
I've got a few things I believe I'm hearing, mostly little differences that don't affect the meaning of what is being sung.

 In the tagline and throughout I hear "laws" rather than "lawyers", "laws" being synonymous with policemen.

3.1 Uncle Bill called the doctor, SAYS, "Come here quick.
After the spoken comment I don't hear any "I' in the next line before "can't drive that thing"


5.2 Every time you meet him he would want A fight

6.1 HE stayed out last night, the night before

I agree that it is "judges" as opposed to "judge is" throughout, which would make the plural parallel with the plural of "lawyers" or "laws", whichever you go for. It's just a little formatting thing, but since this is a 12-bar chorus blues, I would combine the first two lines of each verse as one long line. That way, each line is four bars long. Otherwise, the first two lines are each two bars long and the third and fourth bars are both four bars long, with the instrumental fills in there. That's the way I've been entering chorus blues lyrics in Weeniepedia. Thanks for taking these Sheiks lyric transcriptions on.

All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on April 23, 2022, 07:19:27 PM
Thanks Vintage Blues and Johnm for the suggestions. I think I took every one of them. In what is now 4.1, I changed “want to” to “wanna” as opposed to “want a”. That’s what I hear, no “t”, and it kinda leaves interpretation up to the listener. I also changed “done got my hammer” to “done CARRIED my hammer out of fix” which is a bit of an odd locution, in what is now 3.1.

It also brings up the question as to whether we want to reflect the pronunciation and, really, words that are essentially in the vernacular, like “gwine” or “gwonna”, or the standard American English. I lean more towards the pronunciation. However, sometimes it might confuse the listener, such as “working” in 1.1, which he pronounces “woikin’”, sounding like he is from Brooklyn, but it’s also common in parts of the south. But a reader might stumble over “woikin” so I’ll leave it as “workin’”. This makes me notice that frankie was pretty much going for American English, always including the unpronounced “g” on “ing” endings, etc.. Looks like a bit of extra work.

BV, I do think he says “woikin’” but there is a little bit of a plosive sound, which happens if you start a “w” sound with force and your lips happen to be together. You almost can’t avoid it.

Johnm, thanks for the clarity on the format. I was actually wondering about it and almost separated the two “driving that thing” lines to make 5 lines. I rejected that and left it as frankie had it as I wanted to get the ball rolling on this project.

So right away I appreciate the work you guys have been putting in as proprietors of so many lyrics. I hope I can get up to speed. Little tough working with one arm right now but after I start PT next week I should be able to engage my right arm more.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on April 25, 2022, 10:03:00 AM
I'm pretty sure in the first line that Old Uncle Bill is a "whackin'" man, which gives a slightly different (and even more amusing IMO) slant to the song. It's not quite the vowel sound of "work."
Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on April 25, 2022, 06:33:16 PM
I'm pretty sure you are right, Chris. Definitely more of an "a" sound than "oi" when I listen closer. Thanks, Ill make the change.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on April 26, 2022, 04:47:01 AM
Chris wins the gold again.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on April 29, 2022, 09:39:22 PM
Alberta Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat (s)
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/OUO-_kw9MDE

Lyrics:
Alberta, Alberta, where you been so long?
Tell me, Alberta, where you been so long?
Hasn't been no loving since you been gone

Alberta, Alberta, where'd you stay last night?
Tell me, Alberta, where'd you stay last night?
Come home this morning, sun was shining bright

If you see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
If you see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
Hasn't been no loving since you been gone

Alberta, Alberta, what you going to do?
Tell me, Alberta, what you going to do?
Just a little bit of loving, let your heart be true

spoken:  Whoa, step on it

I met Alberta, 'way 'cross the sea
I met Alberta, 'way 'cross the sea
Wouldn't write me no letter, she didn't care for me

Alberta, Alberta, be a pal of mine
Alberta, Alberta, be a pal of mine
And she left me walking, tears rolling and crying

I love Alberta, tell the world I do
I love Alberta, tell the world I do
Just a little bit of loving, let your heart be true

The second song the Sheiks recorded, at the same session in Shreveport, LA on February 17, 1930 was the standard "Alberta Blues". Again, Walter Vinson, g/v, and Lonnie Chatman, vn. If anyone is interested in sussing out Vinsons’s playing in B♭, this would be an excellent choice. The guitar is well recorded and the fiddle part is relatively sparse. The arrangement is one of WV’s more complex boom-changs, with walkdowns to both the IV and V chord with some nifty fills and slides, too. You can find frankie’s earlier discussion of WV’s playing positions in B♭ here:
https://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=430.msg4041#msg4041

The lyrics are pretty straightforward and I only made minor changes to frankie’s original post.

Wax

Edited 04/30/22 to reflect suggestions from Blues Vintage and Johnm
Edited 5/6/22 to reflect correction from Blues Vintage

Alberta Blues

INTRO

Alberta, Alberta, where you been so long
Tell me, Alberta, where you been so long
Hasn't been no lovin’ since you been gone

Alberta, Alberta, where'd you stay last night
Tell me, Alberta, where'd you stay last night
Come home this mornin’, sun was shinin’ bright

'F you see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
If you see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
Hasn't been no lovin’ since you been gone

Alberta, Alberta, what you goinna do?
Tell me, Alberta, what you goinna do?
Just a little bit of lovin’, let your heart be true

(spoken:  Oh, step on it)
INSTRUMENTAL

I met Alberta, way across the sea
I met Alberta, way across the sea
She wouldn't write me no letter, she didn't care for me

Alberta, Alberta's a dear pal of mine
Alberta, Alberta's, dear pal of mine
And she left me walkin’, tears rollin’ and cryin’

I love Alberta, tell the world I do
I love Alberta, tell the world I do
Just a little bit of lovin’, let your heart be true
 
CODA
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on April 30, 2022, 05:30:10 AM
Hi Wax, I think it's great you're doing these Mississippi Sheiks lyrics and good luck with your shoulder.


Verse 6 - Alberta, Alberta, be a pal of mine

It could be    dear pal of mine

I find it hard to hear.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on April 30, 2022, 09:16:28 AM
Hi wax,
I could only hear a couple of very minor possible differences.
 
In 3.1 I think Walter just sings: You see Alberta, tell her to hurry home
with no "If" at the front end of that first line.

I think the first two lines of verse six are:
   Alberta, Alberta's a dear pal of mine
   Alberta, Alberta's, dear pal of mine
You can just hear that "s" on Alberta's in those two places, and I think Walter sings a sort of swallowed "a" in the first line that he leaves out in the second. See what you think.
Thanks again for taking these lyrics on.
 
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on April 30, 2022, 02:53:50 PM
Thanks for the encouragement, Johnm and Vintage Blues.

I agree with both of you on the "dear" Alberta, including the "'s a"

I actually listened to the "If" at the beginning of 3.1 a lot before posting it, Johnm. I almost posted it as " 'F you see Alberta, which I think I will do. I think it is just so low in his range that he can hardly voice it, but I hear it in there very low.

Thanks for the suggestions and I'll make the changes.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 02, 2022, 09:29:00 PM
Adding a filler so when I make the lyric post I get a dark background. I'll remove if Rivers can modify the code.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 02, 2022, 09:33:46 PM
Winter Time Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: F
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/dagbFQasK74

Lyrics:
When the birds stop singing and the wind begins to blow
When the birds stop singing and the wind begins to blow
I was all outdoors, I didn't have my winter clothes

Now don't a man feel bad when he wakes up cold in hand
Now don't a man feel bad when he wakes up cold in hand
He won't have a dime to give the house rent man

I'm going to the post office to get some long distance mail
I'm going to the post office to get some long distance mail
I would catch the train I just haven't got the [geld]

It's so cold up north that the birds can't hardly fly
It's so cold up north that the birds can't hardly fly
They'll have to take their home, let this winter pass on by

spoken: Oh, step on it
spoken: Oh, [Miss Lula, lord.]
spoken: Just think about her only.

I'm staying in a house, I'd just as soon to be outdoors
I'm staying in a house, I'd just as soon to be outdoors
I'll have to go back south where the weather suits my clothes

The next song recorded by the Sheiks on February 17 in Shreveport, LA. was “Winter Time Blues”. Again, Walter Vinson, g/v, and Lonnie Chatman, vn. This one has a couple tough spots, but they are pretty minor. One is at the end of 3.3, “I just haven’t got the [geld]", which I like, but he seems to pronounce it to rhyme with “mail”. Any thoughts? Another is 4.1 & 4.2 where he speaks very quickly. I have it as a contracted “an’the”, which is even more than he is pronouncing, more like “an’e”, but I don’t think that translates to the reader. But it could also be “when the” or “tha’the”, contracting what frankie had. Again, any thoughts welcome. Also I noticed that he does clearly enunciate the “ing” of “going” (3.1 & 3.2) and “staying” (5.1 & 5.2). Interesting.

A formatting thing, Johnm: I noticed that when “Step on it” is spoken before the Instrumental verse, which they do pretty regularly, it really comes over the final response to the V chord, so I thought it would be best to place it with no line break after the verse and then a line break before the Instrumental. Just getting my sea legs.

Wax

Edited 5/3/22 to pick up suggestions from Blues Vintage and Johnm, with an assist from banjochris.


Winter Time Blues

INTRO

When the birds stop singin’ and the wind begins to blow
When the birds stop singin’ and the wind begins to blow
I was all outdo’, I didn't have my winter clothes

Now don't a man feel bad when he wakes up cold in hand
Now don't a man feel bad when he wakes up cold in hand
He won't have a dime to give the house rent man

I'm going to the post office to get some long distant mail
I'm going to the post office to get some long distant mail
I would catch the train I just haven't got the kale

It's so cold up north til the birds can't hardly fly
It's so cold up north ti'the birds can't hardly fly
They'll have to take their home and let this winter pass ‘em by
(spoken: Oh, step on it)

INSTRUMENTAL
(spoken: Oh, Miss Lula, lord)
(spoken: Just think about her only)

I'm staying in a house, I'd just as soon to be outdo’
I'm staying in a house, I'd just as soon to be outdo’
I'll have to go back South where the weather suits my clothes

OUTRO

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 03, 2022, 05:23:22 AM
My suggestions

3.1 I'm going to the post office to get some long distance distant mail
3.2 I'm going to the post office to get some long distance distant mail
3.3 "Geld" means money where I live.

4.1 It's so cold up north till the birds can't hardly fly
4.2 It's so cold up north till the birds can't hardly fly
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on May 03, 2022, 11:07:49 AM
I'm not totally sold on "geld" because of the pronunciation, but think it's possible. I agree with Blues Vintage here, and for what it's worth Walter sings "till the" on the early '70s recording of this tune with the New Mississippi Sheiks. Unfortunately he doesn't sing the post office verse!
Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 03, 2022, 12:39:06 PM
I agree that it is "till the" in verse four's first two lines. I think that the missing word at the end of the tagline of verse three is "kale", just in the way that people sometimes refer to cash as "lettuce". The word does sound more like it has a "k" at the front end than a "g", and "kale" has the additional advantage of rhyming with "mail".

Re formatting, I'd probably put the first spoken comment after the last line of the verse preceding the solo, have a line break, then an indication "SOLO" followed by parenthetic (Spoken during solo: ______________________). I would capitalize "South" in the tagline to the last verse because it's talking about a region as opposed to just a cardinal point of the compass.
All best,
Johnm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 03, 2022, 06:36:26 PM
Thank you all, especially Johnm for coming up with "kale". Didn't we have a lyric discussion recently about another salad green as cash? I like all the other suggestions from Blues Vintage and thanks banjochris for the corroboration on "till the". I'll make the corrections

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 05, 2022, 08:23:14 PM
The Sheik Waltz - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: E-flat
Main guitar position: F/B-flat/E-flat
Fiddle position: F/B-flat/E-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/Xe577ni7qQI

Lyrics:
Instrumental

Since we are working through the Sheiks 1st session on February 17 1930 at Shreveport LA in order, I thought, as Frankie did, this should be included. Same personel, Walter Vinson v/g, Lonnie Chatman vn.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 05, 2022, 08:45:05 PM
The Jazz Fiddler - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: A-flat
Main guitar position: B-flat
Fiddle position: B-flat
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

Lyrics:
spoken: No fooling, now.

Listen here people gonna play a little tune
It's the jazz violin of a Mississippi coon
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
You got the fiddle and take out your bow
This is a tune all the fiddlers ought to know
It's too bad, it's too bad

Boys this is something you never have seen
A man playing jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger and a shaking bow
A stooping heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad, it's too bad

Boys this is something you never have seen
A man playing jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger and a shaking bow
A stooping heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad, it's too bad

Boys this is something you never have seen
A man playing jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger and a shaking bow
A stooping heel and a tickle toe
It's too bad, it's too bad


The fifth side of the session was The Jazz Fiddler, same personnel. They do this fast and it is hard to make out in a few places. I'll admit I used a little slow down in spots, which I don't like to do as I think it can change consonants, especially plosives, like making a 'd' from a 't'. I also remembered that there were some suggestions posted earlier, like banjochris's "souple heel", which works for me. In 2.5 I kept hearing a strong 'L' sound giving "lemme shake 'at bow", or possibly "lends a shakin' bow", but the "lemme" sounds pretty clear. I could never hear "tickle toe" and after much listening I think 2.6 is "a supple heel that'll shake her toe." When listening slowed down a bit I thought the first time he sings it "dough" instead of "toe". As I said, I think slowing down can changes a 't' to a 'd', but when I listened again at speed I think I can still hear it. I actually think, at the speed he is singing, he probably. just mispronounced it. Anyway, thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Wax

Edited 5/6/22 to pick up corrections from Blues Vintage and banjochris and to try "take her dough" for a while.
Edited 5/7/22 to replace youtube video with cleaner version, and to make corrections based on that version.

https://youtu.be/DoTeskY6s7Q


The Jazz Fiddler

INTRO
(spoken: No fooling, now)

Listen here people gonna play a little tune
It's the jazz violin of a Mississippi coon
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
Take out your fiddle and pick up your bow
This is a tune all fiddlers ought to know
It's too bad, it's too bad

INSTRUMENTAL

INSTRUMENTAL

Boys it’s somethin’ you never have seen
A man playin’ jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
A quick finger, lemme shake an' pull
A souple heel that'll take her dough
It's too bad, it's too bad

INSTRUMENTAL

Boys it’s somethin’ you never have seen
A man playin’ jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
Quick finger, lemme shake an' pull
A souple heel that'll take her dough
It's too bad, it's too bad

INSTRUMENTAL

INSTRUMENTAL

Boys it’s somethin’ you never have seen
A man playin’ jazz on a violin
It's too bad, it's too
Listen to that old violin
Quick finger, lemme shake an' pull
Souple heel that'll take her dough
It's too bad, it's too bad

CODA

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 06, 2022, 05:35:36 AM
one minor suggestion,

1.5 Pick up your fiddle and take out up your bow

I got to re-listen to that hard part.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on May 06, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
1.2 It's the jazz VIOLIN of a Mississippi coon
(They pronounce violin the same way throughout, this is just faster).

1.5 Agree on take UP your bow

I still here "this is" rammed together or "this" at the beginning of the subsequent verses.

I think "lemme shake 'at bow" is close; it sounds more like "shakin' bow" to me, but I hear the "lemme."

 I still hear "tickle toe" clear as day – there's no "sh" sound there, especially juxtaposed against the previous line that has one.

There was also a dance called the tickle toe current in the late teens.
https://library.si.edu/digital-library/book/evquotrybodyoug00hirs

Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 06, 2022, 01:49:34 PM
I still find it very hard to hear but my best guess would be;

A quick finger and a shakin' bow
A supple heel and a tickle toe


I think he trips over the words a little bit here and there singing at this speed. That could explain coming out as "lemme" in one or two instances.


One further suggestion for Alberta.

6.3 Now And she left me walkin’, tears rollin’ and cryin’
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 06, 2022, 02:20:04 PM
Yeah, this is really hard. To be honest, Chris, I'm leaning more toward "take her dough" the 't/d' sound is very ambiguous, sounding more like a 'd' the first time, a 't' the second time, and a toss up the last time. What I'm not hearing is the 'L' in 'tickle' in any of the 3 times, and you can compare to 'supple'. It also sounds more like an 'a' than an 'i'. I think "take her dough" may mean to get her to drop a dime in the cup. Any other ears on this?

I listened to 'up/out' (V1.5) all night. Sometimes it sounds like it ends on a 't', sometimes a 'p'. I'll go with 'up' and make that change.

in V1.2 he definitely doesn't pronounce 'Vileen', as he pronounces 'violin' every other time, but listening again he doesn't really pronounce the 'voi' that I would expect at the beginning of 'version', but the rests sufficiently muddy to be either, I'll go with 'violin' and make the change unless there are any other ears hearing differently.

At the start of the the repeating verse I think he elides 'Boys' into 'it's' and because he accents the 'it's' the 's' gets stronger, like a 'z', so, quasi phonetically I hear 'BoyssZZIT'S'. I think that buzzy 'Z' is what you're hearing as a run together 'this's'.  The 't's at the end seems pretty clear to me.

To me he is most clear singing the repeating verse the first time through. It's the only time he voices the 'A' at the beginning. Both the 'lemme shake 'at bow' and 'that'll take her dough' seem relatively clear to me but are less clear in the subsequent repetitions.

Blues Vintage your post came in while I was posting. I'll go back and look at Alberta Blues again.

Thanks Blues Vintage and banjochris. The books not closed on this one, any other ears out there?

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 06, 2022, 09:29:58 PM
I have continued to listen to this closely and I have decided to change 'that'll' to ''oughta' in the middle of V2.6 and subsequent repetitions. As I have it now the line is "A supple heel oughta take her dough". If you think of the position many fiddlers take, with one foot stretched forward, when they take a little bow at the end of a solo their upper body and fiddle dip down and they rock back on their forward heel. A supple heel at the right moment can encourage a donation, especially after the impressive playing he has been describing.

Blues Vintage, I made the change in Alberta Blues. Thanks.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 07, 2022, 06:38:00 AM
Listening just now, what I heard was "supple heel that'll tickle toe". I have to listen more, though. To me, it sounds like a "t" on "toe" rather than a "d" on "dough", consistently.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 07, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
I had noticed that the version I have been working from is indicated to be Take B. Checking B&GR I saw that both 403804-A and 403804-B were issued as OK 45436. Most of the compilations I've looked at had Take B, but there is a very beat version of Take A on the Document Too Late, Too Late Vol. 3 that you can download directly from Document. It also appears in a slightly cleaned up state, on the Third Man Records Mississippi Sheiks - Complete Recorded Works Vol. 1 LP. You can access the track on Apple Music and I would assume also on Spotify. It is somewhat shorter, 2:58, and the second verse is only sung twice.

I think it might be helpful, or possibly not, if folks could listen to that version also.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 07, 2022, 01:53:18 PM
Found this version of Take A on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/r1VEb52RoSc


The two iterations of the second verse are after 1:08 and 2:02. Please listen to both.

The Third Man version is somewhat clearer if you can access it.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 07, 2022, 02:30:25 PM
Here is a very clear version from Barrelhouse Blues - Compiled and Edited By Paul Oliver.
Hope that US residents can listen to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoTeskY6s7Q
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 07, 2022, 02:51:08 PM
Thanks BV, That's a great copy of Take B. I'm going to replace the version in my original post.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 07, 2022, 02:58:49 PM
And this is interesting, from Merriam Webster:

Quote
History and Etymology for supple
Adjective
Middle English souple, from Anglo-French suple, from Latin supplic-, supplex entreating for mercy, supplicant, perhaps from sub- + -plic- (akin to plicare to fold)

and this, also:

Quote
Definition of souple
 (Entry 1 of 3)
dialectal variant of SUPPLE

sou·ple |  \ ˈsüpəl  \


Perhaps WV's "mispronunciation" was actually correct for a word that might have still been in use in the southeastern US in early 20th Century?

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 07, 2022, 03:13:36 PM
After listening to the Paul Oliver version I'm going to change 'oughta' back to 'that'll'. I have also had a question mark in my mind about the 'bow' at the end of V2.5 and I now hear that line as "A quick finger lemme shake an' PULL" and will make those changes.

Also I now think V1.5 is "Take out your fiddle and pick up your bow."

Thanks again for finding that version, Blues Vintage!

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on May 08, 2022, 07:54:20 PM
With the pronunciation "souple," it could be a dialect thing or someone seeing a word written down and assuming it was pronounced a certain way. It doesn't pop up on a lot of recordings. I think of "calm" and the odd (to us) way it's pronounced by Skip James and Blind Lemon both; I'm glad to know that pronunciation is in a dictionary somewhere.

I think it's "bow" at the end of all those lines – this is a song about fiddling; it's logical that there's a bow throughout it, and to me the sound supports it.

Thanks for finding that better copy of Take B, it really sounds good! I had listened to Take A several times and to me it's not much help except I think in one verse he starts "Here's something you never have seen," which I don't hear in Take B. There are some great fiddle variations in the first take, too.
Chris
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 09, 2022, 11:27:46 AM
I finally had a chance to listen to all the versions and concluded that I'm no help when it comes to deciphering the lyrics of "The Jazz Fiddler." One thing to note is that the cleaned up versions digitally remove the surface noise and in doing so can also remove some of the voice which can result in something different than what was originally recorded. But how do we tell the differences with respect to the difficult sections without the originals being available for comparison purposes?

As for "souple," that's what I hear, although I may have been predisposed to do so. IMHO, it's the way WV pronounced supple in these recordings. Did he always pronounce it this way? Anybody's guess. It could be a regional or local variation or simply his idiosyncratic pronunciation. Hard to say.

I hear some deliberate variations in pronunciation of certain words for rhyming purposes. And context can be helpful.

Listening to the different YT recordings, I hear "tickle toe," "ticker toe, and "kicker toe." --And also "take her dough," (if that makes anyone feel any better.)

I won't go into dictionaries, how they are compiled, usage and pronunciation panels, the prescriptive vs. the descriptive, etc., etc., etc. But it's something to bear in mind when using them as a source of information re: how language is spoken and sung by individual human beings.

Over And Out, As Always,

Uncle Stuie (deaf in one ear and can't hear out of the other...) ;)

P.S. In the interest of gilding the lily, this also came up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=narmSqwsa5E

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 10, 2022, 12:49:14 PM
Thanks banjochris and Stuart for your thoughts. This has been interesting. I think the Paul Oliver/Document version cleared up things for me. I checked on Discogs and Document published that in 2009. I don’t know what Document was doing for remastering then, but It sounds to me like they had a pretty clean original to start with. I don’t notice what’s missing but what you can hear that was covered by surface noise, like the voicing of the ‘d’ in ‘dough’ on the first and third iterations.

I think putting ‘souple’ in the transcription is correct. It’s clearly what he means to sing. If someone is curious and googles ‘souple meaning’ aside from translations from French, the top hit is the Merriam-Webster definition and the next is Wiktionary with the identical info.

I’m pretty clear on ‘pull’ Chris. As I said earlier, I never liked ‘bow’ there, and I realized it’s because he swallows the sound, something you often point to when something doesn’t sound quite right, and I usually agree. But here he swallows it the same way, consistently, every time. I just couldn’t come up with the word that worked, until I heard the Oliver version and I could hear the ‘ull’ sound, which is a sound produced in the back of the mouth and throat, sounding swallowed. The long ’o’ in ‘bow’ is correctly pronounced in the front of the mouth. “Pull” is commonly referred to as a fiddler’s bowing gesture. The compilation “Folks, He Sure Do Pull Some Bow!” actually has The Jazz Fiddler on it. Logically, it doesn’t make sense to link a single element of bowing, shaking, with all of bowing in a sentence. Linking two elements of bowing, shaking and pulling, makes total sense.

In terms of vocal production, there is virtually no difference in the mouth between the three pairs of plosives (or stops, as in, the breath is stopped and then released). The ‘b’ and the ‘p’ are bilabial, the two lips come together to stop the airflow and build a little pressure before release, in exactly the same way. The only difference is that there is vibration in the vocal chords, in the throat, during the build up and release in the ‘b’ sound and no vibration, or voice, in the ‘p’ sound until the beginning of the vowel following. The same with the ‘d’, voiced, and the ‘t’, unvoiced., both created by stopping the airflow and building up pressure with the tip of the tongue against the back of the top teeth. The third pair is the hard ‘g’, voiced, and the ‘k’, unvoiced, produced between the back of the tongue and the velar area or soft palate. You can feel this by repeating ‘beat’, ‘peat’, ‘beat’, ‘peat’.

It is extremely easy for the voicing to bleed somewhat, causing an unvoiced plosive to sound like a voiced plosive or vice versa. This can happen when a singer is accenting a word and by putting extra energy into the build up of pressure, sometimes causing a little voicing, especially when singing fast. Or the opposite, dropping voicing due to an alliteration issue. It’s also easy for the voicing to be hidden by other sounds or surface noise. For this reason I am always suspect of plosive sounds and do not feel they are particularly reliable for informing transcription of a word. This relates to both ‘bow’ vs ‘pull’ and ‘toe’ vs ‘dough’.

I am ready to draw a line under this one and I feel we have a really close transcription. I appreciate everyone’s input and I know it’s not easy.

Wax

P.S. you might get a kick out of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP0U1RK6GV0
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 10, 2022, 04:09:31 PM
Wax: The term linguists commonly use is aspiration--aspirated vs. unaspirated. Bob vs. Pop and Dodd vs Tot are common examples. Dangle a sheet of paper in front of your mouth and say Pop and Tot. The paper will move.

FYI:

https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/P/bo3634736.html

One of our first assignments for Historical Phonology class was to write out the first chapter of the Confucian Analects in IPA. Talk about driving a bunch of already crazy people insane. Oh yeah--It's really "phonyology"  ;)

I think you're right about calling "The Jazz Fiddler" done and moving on to the next challenge. If something significant should arise, we can always revisit it and make any revisions deemed necessary. Thanks for all your hard work on this one. Like you say, it's not easy.

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 10, 2022, 04:17:02 PM
I'm sorry Wax, I disagree.  Re listening to the Oliver version I hear "shakin' bow" and "tickle toe".
He pronounces "bow" in the later verses exactly the same way as in the 1st verse.

1st verse still needs editing I believe;

Take out your fiddle and pick up your bow   Pick up your fiddle and take up your bow
This is a tune all the fiddlers ought to know

But that's just my interpretation and I'm not sure either.
This could be one of those songs where we can't all agree on and virtually impossible to transcribe 100 percent accurate.

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 10, 2022, 05:48:53 PM
Stuart,

I don't know about linguists, but phoneticists seem to use voiced and unvoiced and I think they actually mean something different. I'm talking about whether there is activation of the vocal chords, like humming, which aspirates through the nose with a closed mouth. Vocalising requires aspiration, but aspiration does not imply vocalization. 

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonant  the wikipedia page on Consonant. At the bottom there are IPA charts using the terminology.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 10, 2022, 06:29:31 PM
Blues Vintage,

Yeah, I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. In "Take out your fiddle and pick up your bow' I hear a long 'a' sound in the 'take' and a short 'i' sound in the 'pick'. As I suggested above, I feel the vowels are much more definitive than the plosive consonants. I also hear 'all' elide all the way into 'fiddlers' without any bobble that could be construed as  a 'the'.

The 'ull' of 'pull' is quite clear in the second and third iteration. Because the sound is in the throat it is hard to accent without a strong push, which, I think, is why there is some vocalization in the 'p' the first time, but I think the 'p' is pretty clear in the second and third. In 'Take 'er' there is clearly a long 'a' sound, an internal rhyming with 'shake' in the previous line. There is also a very clear stop between the 'k' and the 'er' without a hint of an 'l'.

I think I have given ample back and forth on this one. I am now repeating things I have already posted. I have also listened to this well over 50 times in the last week. Sure, I have doubts every time someone questions something. I go back, listen intently with headphones and make the best call I can, given my background, training, and what ears I have left.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 16, 2022, 07:55:38 PM
Sitting On Top Of The World - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: G-flat
Main guitar position: G
Fiddle position: G
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/hBuK2ZOZq6o

Lyrics:
Was all the summer, and all the fall,
just trying to find my little all and all
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Was in the spring, one summer day
Just when she left me, she's gone to stay
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Needn't to come here running, holding up your hand
Can get me a woman, quick as you can get a man
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

It have been days, I didn't know your name
Why should I worry and pray in vain
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Going to the station, down in the yard
Gonna get me a freight train, work done got hard
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

The lonesome days, they have gone by
Why should you beg me and say goodbye
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world


The next song recorded with the same personel at the February 17, 1930 session in Shreveport, LA, was “Sitting On Top Of The World”. B&GR indicates that there were two takes (A & B) of this, both issued on OK 8784. Most of those on YouTube are the same take, recognizable quickly by a bobble in the word “go/one” in the last verse, which the other 7 or 8 I listened to all had. Sounds mechanical, probably on the master. I found a beat copy of the alternate take on YouTube and will post it below. There seems to be one line (V6.2) entirely different and maybe the first word of another line. I’ll post a separate set of lyrics if you want to correct those as well. It also has a bit of an Outro, which the other version doesn't.

Wax

Edited 5/17/22 to pickup correction from banjochris
Edited 5/18/22 to pick up correction from Johnm and banjochris


INTRO

Was all the summer, and all the fall,
just tryin’ to find my little all and all
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Was in the spring, one summer day
Just when she left me, she's gone to stay
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Needn't to’ve come here runnin’, holdin’ up your hand
Can get me a woman, quick as you can a man
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

INSTRUMENTAL

It have been days, I didn't know your name
Why should I worry and cry in vain
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Going to the station, down in the yard
Gonn’ get me a freight train, work’s done got hard
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

The lonesome days, they have gone by
Why should you beg me and say goodbye
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world


Alternate Take

https://youtu.be/CpR_iYo3CK4

INTRO

Was all the summer, and all the fall,
just tryin’ to find my little all and all
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Was in the spring, one summer day
Was when she left me, she's gone to stay
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Needn't to’ve come here runnin’, holdin’ up your hand
Can get me a woman, quick as you can a man
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

INSTRUMENTAL

It have been days, I didn't know your name
Why should I worry and prayer in vain
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

Going to the station, down in the yard
Gonn’ get me a freight train, work’s done got hard
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

The lonesome days, they have gone by
No use to tell me, baby, now goodbye
But now she's gone, I don't worry
I'm sitting on top of the world

OUTRO
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 17, 2022, 06:37:38 AM
Hi wax,
The only thing I wonder about is the second line of verse four. I think Walter is singing "worry and pray", as Frank had it, with "pray" followed by the intervallic "r" that was often stuck at the end of words that ended in vowel sounds and preceded words that began with vowel sounds. I don't think Walter would use "prayer" as a verb, which the construction of the line demands if the line is transcribed that way.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 17, 2022, 12:04:01 PM
Hi Wax and John:

I hear "prayer" as well. You could be right, John, but it could also be a case of using a noun as a verb: "Word class" vs. "word function." We generally think of it as a mistake, but it does happen. Besides, who am I to tell Walter what and how to sing?

I was going through my iTunes library to check different releases and found a version on the 2000 Catfish release, "20th Century Blues" (Catfish KATX1) on which the outro sounds different from the YT version Frankie posted and the alternate take Wax posted. The lyrics differ significantly as well. Perhaps I'm imagining things. It's too large to post here but I'll try to send it to you off-list.

FYI:

https://www.discogs.com/release/18819577-Various-20th-Century-Blues

https://www.wirz.de/music/catfish2.htm
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: banjochris on May 17, 2022, 05:26:35 PM
In both takes, I hear "cry in vain," complete with the intrusive R that John mentioned, which is common enough in Walter's singing. It's the extra "R" that gives it more of the vowel sound of the end of "pray," but the "c" is pretty clear.

In the alternate take in 6.2 after listening several times with headphones, I think it's "No use to tell me, baby now goodbye." I think you can make a case for "you" but there's a bit more of a stop between the "use" and the beginning of the next word that sounds like an articulated T to me.

Best thing about this is I had never heard the alternate take before!
Chris

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 17, 2022, 06:16:32 PM
I always listen with headphones when transcribing.

I'm curious. Of course, I thought of the 'Norah's dove' 'r' immediately. But here, whether you guys decide it should be 'pray', with a long 'A' sound, or 'cry' with a long 'I' sound, the added bit is 'er' creating an entire new syllable. It's not  'pray-rin vain' or 'cry-rin vain' it's 'pray-er-in vain' or 'cry-er-in vain'. I could not think of any instance that it has been used to make the wording more difficult to say, in this way, instead of easier to elide. No one sings 'No-er-ah's dove'. Any thoughts?

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 17, 2022, 06:45:11 PM
I'll make the change on the alternate take, banjochris. I guess I can just remove the quotes entirely. Thanks

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 17, 2022, 10:03:23 PM
In re-listening to both takes, I'm certain Chris has it with "cry in vain". The vowel sound is spot on, as is the hard "c" at the beginning of the phrase. And the intervallic "r" seems pretty clear, too.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 18, 2022, 01:37:54 AM
I'll make the correction. Thanks.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 18, 2022, 09:28:37 AM
In the interest of being argumentative, I listened to all the versions of "Sittin' On Top Of The World" in my iTunes Library (all M4A), as well as the alternate take. Here's the list of albums:

American Epic: The Collection [Disc 5]; Screamin' And Hollerin' The Blues #6; Blues Images Vol. 2; Bo Carter & The Mississippi Sheiks - [Disc 1]; Century Of The Blues (Disc 1); The Essential (Disc 1); The Roots Of Robert Johnson; Back To The Crossroads.

I also used VLC Media Player to slow down the section in question to try to get a better sense of WV's articulation. In no case do I hear "cry...." I might be able to force myself to make a case for it on the alternate take, but it would be a plea for understanding at best. I just don't hear it.

I venture to guess that Walter had something specific in mind that he intended to sing. Both "Prayer in vain" and "Cry in vain" make sense in the context of the song.

I think it would be useful to have "variorum" transcriptions for songs that have sections where there is not a level of clarity that allows for 100% agreement. The majority opinion would determine the lyrics posted as the "final version," with notes indicating sections where other people hear something different below the main body of the transcription. I'm not suggesting that the various posts and replies that constitute the process of arriving at a final version be removed because process is important. It's simply in interest of organization and placing the varying opinion in one place, below the final agreed upon version.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 18, 2022, 09:51:08 AM
In fact, Stuart, what you propose is already in place, in Weeniepedia, in a few of the Lemon Jefferson transcriptions, where Bob McLeod and and Andrew Mullins, the lead transcribers, could not agree on what Lemon was singing in particular passages.
   
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 18, 2022, 10:03:18 AM
Hi John: I was aware of that, but I was thinking more along the lines of the threads where the posts and the process can run over several pages. Sometimes there's a lot to wade through. A link at the end of the "process" to the Weeniepedia page serves the same purpose.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 18, 2022, 10:31:16 AM
The wading through is what it's all about, I think, Stuart. Without wading through, the same points get made over and over again, by different people, each for the first time. It's why joining a discussion already in progress is almost never helpful and to the point unless all the previous posts on a given topic or question have already been read and digested. Comments made outside of the context of the whole are real momentum-stoppers, and have the effect of taking you back to ground zero, with everything grinding to a halt.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 18, 2022, 11:04:28 AM
You're correct, John. Ideally one should start at the beginning so one understands every step of the process. But that's not what I was focusing on. Rather, I was thinking more about the person who by means of a search arrives at what appears to be the final version, but hears something different. Again, we can say they should go back to the beginning and read everything that led up to the resulting final version--or look for the Weeniepedia page for the song. But in the interest of efficiency and saving the reader several extra steps--and acknowledging that sometimes things slip through the cerebral cracks, I think a synopsis of varying opinions in one place would be helpful.

I not only read the threads, but I re-read them, often several times, to make sure I'm not missing or misunderstanding something. And I'm sure I'm not alone. But not everyone does that, owing to time constraints and/or other factors. I'm not making excuses for laziness or slop, simply acknowledging that my suggestion might possibly be helpful for some.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 18, 2022, 11:11:52 AM
So post a synopsis if you think it would be helpful.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 18, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
And/or a link to the entry in WeeniePedia once it's in there. I'm on it.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 22, 2022, 07:30:52 PM
Filler to skip the light background.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 22, 2022, 07:32:10 PM
Stop and Listen Blues - Mississippi Sheiks
Actual pitch: C
Main guitar position: Dropped D
Fiddle position: D
Mandolin position: n/a
Second guitar position: n/a

https://youtu.be/RQ6r6kxPiJM

Lyrics:
Every day have been a long old lonesome day
Yeah, don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama, well
Day have been a long old lonesome day
Crying, seems like tomorrow is the same old way

Crying, smokestack's black, baby and the bell it shine like gold
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama, oh
Smokestack's black, bell it shining like gold
Crying, I found my baby laying on the cooling board

Don't a hearse look lonesome, mama, rolling 'fore your door
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama
Don't a hearse look lonesome rolling 'fore your door
Crying she gone, she gone, won't be back no more

Oh, stop and listen, hear how the bell did tone
Now don't you-a-hear me talking, pretty mama, oh
Stop and listen, hear the bell did tone
I had a sweet little faro but she's dead and gone

Crying, followed my baby down to her burying ground
Now don't you-a-hear me talkin, pretty mama
I followed my baby to the burying ground
It was hackney horses standing all around


The penultimate side from the February 17, 1930 session in Shreveport, LA is Stop and Listen Blues, one of the Sheiks’ best known numbers and, similarly to Sitting On Top Of The World, was later rerecorded twice as S&LB No 2 and New S&L. WV on guitar and vocal and LC on violin.

Wax



Stop and Listen Blues

Ever’ day have been, baby, long old lonesome day
Now, don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, yeah, ever’
Day have been long o-old lonesome day
Cryin’, it seems like to-oooomor’ is the-ooo same old way-eee

Cryin’, smokestack black, baby, bells they shinin’ like gol’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, o-ooh
Smokestack black, bells they shinin’ like gol’
Cryin’, I found my baby layin’ on the coolin’ bo’

Don't a hearse look lonesome, mama, rollin’ 'fore your do’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, don’t a-aah
Hearse look lonesome rollin’ 'fore your do’
Cryin’ she’s gone, she-eeee’s ‘one, won't be-eee back no mo’-oo

Oh, stop and listen, hear how the bell it to’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, o-ooh
Stop and listen, hear the bell it to’
I had a sweet little faro but she's dead and gone

Cryin’, followed my baby down to the buryin’ groun’
Now don't you a-hear me talkin’, pretty mama, I-ee
Followed my baby to the buryin’ groun’
It was hackney-eeee horses standi-iin’ all aro-ooun’
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 23, 2022, 04:11:16 AM
I haven't listened closely to everything but I think in verse 4;

hear the bell it to’ intone
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 23, 2022, 06:13:33 AM
"Stop And "Listen Blues" has already been transcribed and entered in Weeniepedia, so it's not necessary to transcribe it again.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 23, 2022, 11:00:13 AM
I believe that entry was a direct upload of frankie's origional post, to which it links. It was never given a second listen.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 23, 2022, 01:00:08 PM
Hi wax,
If it was posted in Weeniepedia, it was given a second listen before entering it. Nothing has been entered in Weeniepedia intact without listening first.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 23, 2022, 02:06:33 PM
Hi Johnm,

Well, in the spirit of a wiki, things that are in error should be changed.

I think anyone who gives a close listen would noticed immediately that in the second verse the bells are plural and it should be something close to "bells they shinin' like gol'" not "bell it shine like gold" as it is in Frank's transcription and on Weeniepedia. The link at the bottom of the wiki page links to Frank's post where there is no discussion. A couple years ago I did my own transcription when working the song up to do with a fiddler, and then I noticed it was in Weeniepedia. I posted to this topic at that time, hoping for discussion and requesting a correction to Weeniepedia. I received no response and there was no correction. I thought that in the course of working through Frank's posts this one deserved the discussion it never received, unless it is somewhere else in this topic that I have not seen.

My goal, as always here, is to help make sure we have the best transcriptions on Weeniepedia that multiple ears can produce, as I'm sure is yours. As in any wiki, the material is open for all to edit. So far few have chosen to do so. I found that it was relatively easy to learn the process and feel strongly that others should as well.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 23, 2022, 02:20:44 PM
Hi wax,
I think the approach that has been taken to making changes to lyric transcriptions already posted in Weeniepedia to date has been to post specific changes to the words themselves, not re-transcribing such songs from beginning to end, and not second-guessing the choice of phonetic exactitude with which the original transcription was done. I find the phonetic renderings in your re-done transcription of "Stop And Listen Blues" excessive to the point of rendering it unintelligible. Are the words to the song, in fact, "gol'" "do'", ""mo'", etc.? The transcription really seems to be venturing into Joel Chandler Harris territory. And as such, I think it serves to emphasize the otherness of the transcriber from the singer.

I'm not suggesting that transcriptions in Weeniepedia be considered sacrosanct, but rather that changes that are made be confined to mis-heard words which alter the meaning of what the original performer sang. Edits are made to lyrics in Weeniepedia with a fair degree of frequency, often many years after a song was originally posted there.   
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 23, 2022, 02:41:41 PM
I'm not suggesting that transcriptions in Weeniepedia be considered sacrosanct, but rather that changes that are made be confined to mis-heard words which alter the meaning of what the original performer sang. Edits are made to lyrics in Weeniepedia with a fair degree of frequency, often many years after a song was originally posted there.   

I did exactly that in the beginning of my post two years ago: https://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=430.msg107557#msg107557 No discussion, no correction.

Thank you for such open criticism of my "phonetic exactitude". I won't bother to look up Joel Chandler Harris. I think I know an insult when I hear one and I find this level of bullying by someone who wields the power that you do on this site is highly inappropriate for Weenie Campbell.

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Johnm on May 23, 2022, 02:47:04 PM
You're welcome, and I don't consider it bullying, just my own opinion, clearly expressed.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: waxwing on May 23, 2022, 03:09:41 PM
So, is anyone else interested in giving this transcription the discussion it deserves?

Wax
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 23, 2022, 03:42:35 PM
Hi Wax:

I am, but give me a chance to get caught up a bit--or at least not fall so far behind as fast.

Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Blues Vintage on May 24, 2022, 04:41:09 AM
I am too.
Title: Re: Mississippi Sheiks Lyrics
Post by: Stuart on May 24, 2022, 11:55:53 AM
Hi Wax:

I listened multiple times last night and again this morning, going over Frank's original post of the lyrics, your post from two years ago and your most recent post. I don't hear any differences I consider are at a level of confidence that would override what you have represented in your most recent transcription of "Stop And Listen Blues."  In the first verse I would move "ever'" to the beginning of the following line, but that's a minor quibble.

I have some thoughts on organization, transcriptions (representations), and the usefulness of variorum transcriptions, etc., but this is a discussion separate from any individual thread or specific song, IMHO. And I want to stress that the last thing I want to do is add another brick to the load, not for you, or for John or for anyone else. Your contributions are already more than sufficient. If anyone is interested in discussing these things, please let me know and I'll start a separate thread--Or you can start one.
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