It wasn't so much that I would ask them how to play. A lot of the stuff I knew from old records.... What they usually talked to me about was how to conduct myself as a person. They tried to keep me away from all the things they went through. They tried to keep my nose clean, and they succeeded pretty good - Jerry Ricks, on time spent with the Old Ones, interview in Blues Review No. 46, April 1999
Hi all, Since I've transcribed all the lyrics for the songs that Sylvester Weaver recorded with his own vocals, I'll keep going with songs on which he acompanied other singers, and in particular those songs, which by virtue of their colorful lyrics, seem good candidates for having been written by Mr. Weaver. One song that definitely falls into that category is "Orn'ry Blues", which Sylvester Weaver recorded on August 30, 1927, backing Sara Martin, who was recording under the name Sally Roberts. Like a number of Weaver's songs, and the Classic Blues that spawned them, "Orn'ry Blues" opens with a verse or introduction that is not in a conventional blues form. The intro makes the song a good candidate for the "Rag Blues and Circle of Fifths" thread over on the Main Forum. The intro is exceptionally pretty, and really showcases the musicianship of Sylvester Weaver, who is playing out of A, in standard tuning. He ventures into some harmonic territory here that most of his peers never visited. Here is the song:
The progression of the intro is as so:
| A / D | A | A | A |
|A/A over G#| F# | B | E7 |
| A | E7 | C# | F#m |
| B | E / C# | F# | E7 |
Weaver then launches into a really nice 12-bar form, with some nifty touches:
| A | A | A | A7 |
| D7 over F#| F / E7 | A/D7 over F#| A |
| E7 | E7 | A/D7 over F# | A |
As unusual as the accompaniment to "Orn'ry Blues" is, the lyrics are probably more unusual. Any help with the bent bracketed portions of the lyrics would be appreciated.
INTRO: Meaner than a rattlesnake, lower than a mole Couldn't be any [hateful], to save my orn'ry soul I feel like a house afire, doggone, I'm burning up Somebody's done me dirty, somebody's peed my cup
VERSES: Going down to the gutter, wallow in the slime (2) Got a nasty feeling, getting orn'rier all the time
Put me in the dungeon, with the sewer rats (2) Let me suffer, suffer, die among the swill and the bats
When ill winds are blowing, they don't blow me no good When will (sic) winds are blowing, they don't blow me no good Made me wild and wicked, I ain't acting like I should
Soak me up in liquor, from my head to my shoes (2) Cussin' like a sailor, 'cause I've got the orn'ry blues.
Edited 12/5 to pick up corrections from banjochris
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:22:17 PM by Johnm »
John -- I couldn't quite get my ears around the "hateful" in "Orn'ry Blues" -- I'll have to listen to it more later tonight. However, the other two bracketed words are: orn'rier not [under] and (I'm about 99% sure) soak instead of [Took]
somebody peed my cup is one of the most amazing blues lyrics I've ever heard. I've listened to these tracks many times as background music without paying that much attention to the lyrics, so thanks again for the transcriptions. Chris
Hi Chris, Thanks very much for the help. Your suggestions are excellent, as always. I will get "ornerier", and "soak" in there. I think I also heard "soak"--in one iteration of the line, it sounded like "took" and in the other, "soak", but I think "soak" makes more sense, so I will make the changes. I think "hateful" in the intro presumes an omitted word, "more", as in "couldn't be any more hateful, to save my orn'ry soul". You're certainly right about, "Somebody peed my cup". That's a hell of a line, and Sara Martin sings it as plain as day. It's great when you encounter those real surprises. All best, Johnm
Hi all, Sylvester Weaver and Sara Martin (recording as Sally Roberts) recorded "Gonna Ramble Blues" at a session in New York City on April 7, 1927. Weaver plays his accompaniment out of C position in standard tuning, and it is a particularly nice bit of playing, both conceptually and in terms of execution. Here is the duo's performance:
Sylvester Weaver employs stop-time in the first two bars of the form, anticipating the first and third beats of the measure, striking the sixth string with his thumb on the + of the previous beat and grabbing the chords on the second, third and fourth strings on the first and third beats. He plays his form so, with the extra vertical slashes showing how many beats he holds chords in measures where he plays more than one chord.
| C over G/ F#dim7 | C over G/ F#dim7 | C over G | C7 over G | | | | | | | | | | F | F | C D7 G7 | C A over C# | | | | | | G7 over D/ G7 | G7 | C | C G7 C G |
The sound of the voicings Weaver uses in the first four bars is really nice. They work out as follows: C over G: 3-X-2-0-1-X F#dim7: 2-X-1-2-1-X C7 over G: 3-X-2-3-1-X The A over C# that Weaver uses in the eighth bar is a pet move of his in his C blues, and it creates a nifty chromatic ascending line moving from the C note that begins the measure to the D note in the bass that opens the ninth measure. Weaver fingers it: X-4-X-X-2-0. At the conclusion of the form, in the twelfth bar, Weaver hits a single G note on the fourth beat, rather than playing a chord. Sara Martin is in fine form here and sounds like a seasoned professional. I'm more accustomed to hearing verses like the second and third sung by male singers of the era, so it's interesting to hear her do them.
I've got a mind to ramble, mind to leave this town (2) I've got to mind my good man, gone and turned me down
Some women scream high yellow, but give me brown and black (2) 'Cause that's the only color man that I really like
Yellow men are evil, brownskin men are too Oh, yellow men are evil, brownskin men are too Gonna get me a black man to drive away the Blues
Now the reason why so many men are wearing overhalls today Oh, the reason why so many men are wearing overhalls today They let women like me on Saturday night draw their pay
But just as sure as the train rolls up in the yard Just as sure as the train rolls up in the yard I'm goin' so far it'll take two dollars to send me a postal card
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:31:18 PM by Johnm »
Hi all, Sylvester Weaver backed Sara Martin (again recorded as Sally Roberts) on "Teasing Brown Blues", recorded immediately after "Gonna Ramble Blues" on April 7, 1927. Weaver is working out of E position here, in standard tuning, and has a tremendous amount of variety in his accompaniment over the course of the song. In the fourth bar he frequently goes to a really nice-sounding and seldom-encountered E9 down at the base of the neck: 0-X-X-1-3-2. For some of his sixth bars he goes to C, the flat VI chord that Ghostrider has remarked upon in other contexts. Occasionally, in the seventh and eighth bars he strings together some pretty flashy bass runs. Really, his playing is exciting and inventive throughout the song, despite working at a very sedate tempo. Sara Martin sings well, but the over-all effect is less than it might have been, due to some hackneyed verses. If there is a duller verse in the Blues than her first one and its variants, I have yet to encounter it; that it should have achieved such wide currency is a real mystery. One interesting aspect of the lyrics: her fourth verse was used, pretty much intact but with the sexes reversed, by Texas Alexander for his "Deceitful Blues", recorded seven years later. Hearing Alexander's use of the verse before Sara Martin's, I remember thinking the phrase "safety first" sounded odd coming out of Alexander. Sara Martin achieves a neat effect with the subtle alteration of the repetition of the opening line in her third verse. Here is the song:
Now, some people say that the worried blues, they ain't bad Oh, some people say that the worried blues, they ain't bad But it's the worst old feeling that I ever had
Said, I woke up this morning, blues all around my bed I woke up this morning, blues all around my bed I didn't have no daddy to hold my nappy head
Now, the man I love, he was a teasing brown Oh, the man I love, he is a teasing brown Strictly tailor-made and he ain't no hand-me-down
'Cause brownskin men are deceitful and yellow men are worse Oh, brownskin men are deceitful and yellow men are worse Gonna get me a black man, I'm playin' safety first
Oh, girls, it's awfully hard, love another woman's man Oh, girls, it's awfully hard to love another woman's man You can't get him when you want him, got to catch him when you can
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: October 22, 2023, 10:06:43 AM by Johnm »
Hi all, Sara Martin, recording as Sally Roberts, recorded "Black Hearse Blues" in New York City on August 30, 1927, immediately prior to "Ornery Blues", with backing by Sylvester Weaver. Weaver backs her out of C in standard tuning and is full of great ideas, at several points using an ascending chromatic bass run that Leadbelly often used when playing in F, but moved one string lower on the guitar. This song has some terrific and novel lyrics, and Sara Martin delivers it in fine style.
Old dead wagon, don't you dare stop at my door (2) You took my first three daddies, but you can't have number four
Small pox got my first man, booze killed number two (2) I wore out the last one but with this one, I ain't through
Roll on, old black hearse, don't you dare to stop (2) My man ain't fit to die, he's a special liquor cop
Low-down bone orchard, call your corpse cart back (2) My daddy's engine still running on my double track
Black hearse, there ain't no use, you sure can't have my man Black hearse, ain't no use, you sure can't have my man I'm just using him up on the old installment plan
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:35:09 PM by Johnm »
Hi all, Sara Martin, once again recording as Sally Roberts, recorded "Useless Blues" earlier in the same session in which she and Sylvester Weaver recorded "Black Hearse Blues" and Orn'ry Blues". Weaver accompanies "Useless Blues" out of G position in standard tuning, and, as usual, is full of neat ideas. It's interesting, when you listen to Weaver's playing, to think about how early he was on the scene, and how few of his ideas were picked up by the Country Blues players that followed him. The lyrics Sara Martin sings on this song, follow an unusual arc. She starts out on the defensive, with her man leaving her, but by the time she gets to the final verse she is dictating terms. Her randy persona is one that was encountered frequently in the Classic Blues singers.
Oh, hey, what's that I heard you say? Hey, what's that I heard you say? You are going away and leave me today
If you go away, and leave me today Ah, if you go away and leave me today Says, you can't come back, so you had better stay
Uh, here's a little lesson I want you to learn Now, here's a little lesson I want you to learn That if you play with fire you are sure to get burned
Now, you know you used to love me just like a sheik Ah, you know you used to love me just like a sheik But now all you can do is to pat my cheek
So if you want to come back, papa, you've got to get some monkey glands If you want to come back, you got to get some monkey glands 'Cause I don't want no cripple man hanging on my hands
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:36:07 PM by Johnm »
Hi all, Sally Roberts (Sara Martin) and Sylvester Weaver recorded "Loving Is What I Crave" on August 30, 1927, the first song in the session that also ended up yielding "Useless Blues", "Black Hearse Blues" and "Orn'ry Blues". Sylvester Weaver is playing out of E position in standard tuning and sounds like he may be using a lighter gauge string than what his guitar would most prefer. His accompaniment shows a lot of variety, and he gets a particularly nice sound by alternating his bass up to the third string for his upbeats, much as Lemon did on "One Dime Blues". When it comes time to play his solo, Weaver is foxed for an instant--he thinks the song is over and stops, but then (probably after a visual cue from the engineer), starts up again and plays a great solo. Sara Martin's singing is fine, but perhaps lacks a bit of the attitude she brought to the later numbers recorded at this session. The tagline of the first verse is something of a stretch.
My heart's just like a lonesome road Uh, my heart's just like a lonesome road Just like a sailor that's jumped overboard
Now, what I need is loving that can't be beat Oh, what I need is loving that can't be beat The kind of loving that knocks you off your feet
Oh, what I want is a daddy, the loving kind Uh, what I want is a daddy of the loving kind A real sweet daddy to ease my troubled mind
SOLO
A man's real loving is just what I crave Oh, a man's real loving is just what I crave And if his loving kills me, take me to my grave
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:37:18 PM by Johnm »
There's one line in this song that I just cannot get! Middle of the last verse. Here's what I've got, and I've attached the song itself. I always love Sara Martin's singing and the setting for this is kinda goofy, with piano, clarinet and Robert Cooksey on harmonica. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Forget Me Not Blues - Sara Martin
You?ve got to forget me I?m gonna stop loving you You know you mistreated me That will never do Now haven?t I always been true, man I?mma say to you
Man you ain?t no good, cause you walked away Some things are bound to change, some sweet day Now I done all I could, to get along with you We Can?t get along so, now I?m through Man I?m leaving you Cause I?ve got the forget me not blues
I said now man, you, ain?t no good, cause you walked away Some things are bound to change, some sweet day Went down today and bought me a knife To ?? (Something about a pistol??) Man I?m leaving you Cause I got the forget me not blues
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« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:38:57 PM by Johnm »
Could be a punch line, he ran off with her sister? Pretty sure it's "to take my sister's (something)..." but I'm not sure about the the end of the line but would go for "haunted life" (though "life" sounds more like "lie") at this point.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 07:52:05 PM by Rivers »
Hi all, For "I Am Happy in Jesus", Sylvester Weaver accompanied Sara Martin and Hayes B. Withers out of C position in standard tuning, and joined in on the singing. Sara Martin lined the song out on the first and third lines of each verse, with Hayes and Sylvester joining in on the second and fourth lines. Sara Martin really does sound happy singing the song, which has unusually flowery lyrics.
I have found what I wanted, what I sought for so long I am happy in Jesus every day He has given contentment, He has filled me with song I am happy in Jesus every day
REFRAIN: I am daily enraptured and my cup runneth o'er I am happy in Jesus every day, every day Since I found my loving that I knew not before I am happy in Jesus every day
Since I first found the pardon for the sins of my soul I've been happy in Jesus every day For He took me and cleansed me, and he then made me whole I am happy in Jesus every day
REFRAIN: I am daily enraptured and my cup runneth o'er I am happy in Jesus every day, every day He has crowned me with blessings that I knew not before And I'm happy in Jesus every day
REFRAIN: Yes, I'm happy in Jesus and my cup runneth o'er I am happy in Jesus every day, every day He has crowned me with blessings and I knew not before And I'm happy in Jesus every day
Oh what pleasures he gives me, oh the joys I have known I am happy in Jesus every day Oh, what visions of raptures unto me He has shown I am happy in Jesus every day
REFRAIN: I am daily enraptured and my cup runneth o'er And I'm happy in Jesus every day, every day For he's crowned me with blessings that I knew not before And I'm happy in Jesus every day
REFRAIN: Yes, I'm happy in Jesus and my cup runneth o'er And I'm happy in Jesus every day, every day 'Cause he's crowned me with blessings that I knew not before And I'm happy in Jesus every day
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:39:53 PM by Johnm »
Hi all, Sylvester Weaver backed Sara Martin out of E position in standard tuning for "Where Shall I Be?", on which they were also joined by Hayes B. Withers and an identified female vocalist. The chorus of the song, at least, is pretty much the same as Blind Lemon Jefferson sang it. The verses are different from anything Lemon sang. I'd appreciate help with the second lead line in verse one. The feel and delivery on this performance is a bit stodgy compared to most religious material performed by blues singers of that era (mid-20s). Sara Martin lines the verses out and is responded to by the other singers on the title phrase.
When Judgement Day is drawing nigh Where shall I be? When God's, the works of men shall try Where shall I be? When a-East and West the fire shall roll Where shall I be? How will it be with my pure soul Where shall I be?
REFRAIN: Oh, where shall I be when the first trumpet sounds Oh, where shall I be when it sounds so loud When it sounds so loud, as to wake up the dead Oh, where shall I be when it sounds
When wicked men his wrath shall see Where shall I be? And to the rocks and mountains flee Where shall I be? When hills and mountains roll away Where shall I be? When all the works of men decay Where shall I be, Hallelujah
REFRAIN: Where shall I be when the first trumpet sounds Oh, where shall I be when it sounds so loud When it sounds so loud as to wake up the dead Oh, where shall I be when it sounds
When Heaven and Earth, as some great scroll Where shall I be? Shall from God's angry presence roll Where shall I be? When all the saints redeemed shall stand Where shall I be? Evermore the Blessed, from God's right hand Where shall I be?
REFRAIN: Oh, where shall I be when the first trumpet sounds Oh, where shall I be when it sounds so loud When it sounds so loud as to wake up the dead Oh, where shall I be when it sounds, yes, Where shall I be when the first trumpet sounds Oh, where shall I be when it sounds so loud When it sounds so loud as to wake up the dead Oh, where shall I be when it sounds
Edited 1/14 to pick up correction from dj
All best, Johnm
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 06:40:47 PM by Johnm »