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Offline Blues Vintage

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Unknown blues photo
« on: May 20, 2016, 12:07:18 PM »
This photo was posted by Document Records on their Facebook page last year. Supposedly originally posted on The Martin guitar forum. Neither Document or Martin could identify him.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2016, 12:09:01 PM by harry »

Offline David Kaatz

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 02:21:54 PM »
Entertaining the troops!
Could be the guitarist is blind, and the young boys are his 'leaders'. Although I don't know why there would be two of them.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 07:47:52 PM »
This photo was also published in the 1993 book "Nothing But The Blues" by Lawrence Cohn.  It's in the opening pages and credited "Unidentified singer in Atlanta"

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 03:30:53 AM »
Figures it would be Atlanta with him having that 12-string.

Offline TonyGilroy

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 07:25:05 AM »
The subject has come up on here before.

I thought there was a resemblance to Willie McTell. No one agreed.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2016, 08:41:43 AM »
Perhaps the two young boys are dancers?

Offline One-Eyed Ross

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 11:13:18 AM »
Based on uniforms worn by the GIs in the background, I would think this picture must have been taken after 1916 but before 1935.  Regretfully, the GI wearing the Browne type belt is right behind the guitar neck, making it hard to get a real good look at his accoutrements.  You also can't tell if they are wearing breeches or trousers.  I suspect that it is before 1926 (or at least before the change of jacket style made it to the troops).
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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2016, 06:52:53 PM »
There are a series of pictures of this scene. In one of them a newspaper headline refers to Petrograd, which narrows it to before 1924. I've never seen the pics in high enough resolution to be able to tell what paper it is, though.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 02:43:49 AM »
The subject has come up on here before.

Could you point me to that thread? I can't find it.

Offline TonyGilroy

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 04:53:54 AM »
I can't find it either. It may have been on Blindman's Blues.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 09:17:26 AM »
I believe there was a discussion on Facebook about it a while back, but I'm damned if I can find it. I thought it was the Real Blues Forum but I couldn't see it on there. But someone posted 6 or 7 shots from the same time and place.
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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 12:17:57 PM »
I've also had problem with WC searches for things that I knew were posted--because I posted them. It was only by rattling the cage that holds my little gray cells and trying different combinations and permutations that I was able to locate what I was looking for. And even then when I tried a search using text in the original post that I did my original search for, there still were no results. So don't doubt yourself, Chris.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 01:18:14 PM »
I kept searching for "Petrograd," since I knew I contributed that to the original discussion, and it's not a likely word to pop up in conversation!
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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 01:40:41 PM »
The Facebook discussion is right here Chris,

https://www.facebook.com/160984497304624/photos/pb.160984497304624.-2207520000.1464034875./762455800490821/?type=3&theater

The name Blind Blake entered the discussion. The very first time I saw the photo I thought of Blake although it's probably not him. His age is about right (born 1896) but I think Blake played the 6 string exclusively and he lived and played in the Jacksonville area although had relatives in Patterson, Georgia.

Sorry Tony but it's obviously not Blind Willie McTell.

Too bad we can't see the other photos from the scene too compare.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2016, 02:36:19 PM »
That was one of the discussions, and great job finding it, but I remember seeing several of the photographs.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 06:29:26 AM »
I'd like to imagine it's George Carter.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2016, 07:07:48 PM »
The forum software internal search is fundamentally flawed. Use the google site search. How. There's a dropdown box under the search input box. Click it and select 'Google'. The results are restricted only to WC. Google search indexing bots comb the site several times a day.

Offline David Kaatz

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2016, 11:12:18 PM »
Rivers,
Your instructions for Google search make sense...until I go to the WC search page and find no drop down box that says Google. Am I misunderstanding?

Dave

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2016, 11:18:13 PM »
Look to your left.

Offline David Kaatz

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 11:03:07 AM »
Aha! Thank you, Rivers.

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2016, 01:31:16 PM »
Another Aha! :)

Cheers

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2016, 07:22:30 PM »
Glad to be of assistance. It's not very intuitive but it does work once you know how to use it.

Offline One-Eyed Ross

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2016, 08:07:40 PM »
What are you using as the search word?  I've tried Petrograd but that returns nothing, even with google
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Offline banjochris

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2016, 09:10:17 AM »
I tried that too. I don't think that original discussion I was talking about was here on Weenie Campbell; I think it was somewhere on Facebook. I went through my old posts and can't find it, but if someone took a post down or left a group it mightn't show up for me.
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Re: Unknown blues photo
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Offline banjochris

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Re: Unknown blues photo
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2016, 02:02:55 PM »
It isn't, but that's a very helpful thread -- the discussion I was part of didn't get the name of the paper. That thread has a ton of info in it, though.
Chris

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