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Offline Stumblin

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Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« on: May 23, 2011, 12:54:44 AM »
It wouldn't be anything like this, now would it?

(Link followed following facebook prompt from fellow Weenie.)
There seems to be a lot of Ronnie's music about this week. Some people think he's female, not sure why, perhaps they have privileged information to which I am not privy. Speaking of which, I've got to go...
« Last Edit: May 23, 2011, 09:46:51 AM by Johnm »

Offline Gumbo

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Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 06:37:13 AM »
Wowza  8)
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Offline bnemerov

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Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 07:38:04 AM »
This vid's been floating around for a while, but I hadn't paid close attention (a chronic condition with me, just ask my wife) until it turned up here.
Look at the stringing of the instrument: No 5th string.
Years ago when my friends Gerhard Kubik and his Malawiian brother-in-law Moya Malamusi were visiting--they were both part of Donald Kachamba's Kwela Band at the time--Moya put my jumbo guitar in east african mode to play some parts for me to learn.
He removed the 5th string and tuned the rest as:
6th--G
4th--D
3rd--F#
2nd--A
1st--C#
all up 1 semi-tone

What he played wasn't exactly like this fellow (who sounds like he's in a consonant open tuning rather than Moya's D maj.7 with 4 in the bass) but had the same loose loping rhythmic pulse.
I'm not sure what to make of this "missing 5th" convention. Anybody?
best,
bruce
« Last Edit: May 23, 2011, 09:48:48 AM by Johnm »

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 10:32:44 AM »

FYI, Ronnie is a woman, see page #23 in the "Country Blues-related Videos on YouTube" thread. She has become a bit of a Web star since that first video appeared.

I will venture a guess about the missing 5th string, with no evidence to go by except for listening to a lot of African music over the years. The sound she is trying to achieve is very common in the indigenous and pop music of that part of Africa (Botswana, South Africa), with the bass string only used as a punctuation to end phrases. She may view the fifth string as getting in the way of being able to freely wail on the top four strings, and removing it as a way to really keep the 6th string separate. I don't think there's any theory involved, it's just Ronnie being very practical in terms of setting up the strings to match her unusual approach to playing the instrument, and to sound like what she hears being played in her part of the world.

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 12:12:36 PM »

FYI, Ronnie is a woman, see page #23 in the "Country Blues-related Videos on YouTube" thread. She has become a bit of a Web star since that first video appeared.

"Ronnie Moipolai from Kopong village in the Kweneng district 50 km west of the capitol Gaborone. He is 29 years old and goes around the shebeens selling and playing his songs for 5Pula each (80dollarcents). He learned guitar from his now late father, has 3 brothers that also play guitar (KB is one of them), has also a big sister and plenty of kids in the yard. Nobody has a formal job and his mother sells Chibuku beer and firewood they get from the bush trying to make ends meet."

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/18/happy-new-year-luie.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 12:56:39 PM »
Alexei--

When I first saw your post it got my dander up, but after looking around, I have to say thanks for instilling doubt in me. I saw the vid just a few days after it was first posted, and I went with my first physical impression--I immediately thought female. Also, Ronnie was described as a woman in the earliest responses to that initial vid. Looking at those comments today, after a while they start to waver between male/female:



Also, I never saw a vid with Ronnie singing until today, and the vocals sound more male.

Some non-YouTube posters and bloggers are really careful about writing their comments to keep them gender-neutral. Note that one of the people who wrote a response to the boingboing post that you linked us to wrote: "Can someone not make a plan and send him a new guitar? Can you image what she could do with it!!!" Cover all your bases, as they say.

If the boingboing comment is truly from the guy who shot the original vid, I guess I'll have to go with that.

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 02:54:23 PM »
FWIW he seems to be quite at ease with 6 strings as well:



or only with four, and/or with playing with the conventional left hand position::





which IMO doesn't make his playing sound any less entertaining.

Cheers

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 04:25:10 AM »
It's a combination of Ronnie's gracile features and the headscarf that confuses people, I think (and I know, I was one of the confused), but after watching a lot of the videos, I changed my own mind since I'd heard how he spoke and how he held his body, and had read a lot of the comments.   I should also apologise for getting your dander up - that really wasn't my intention. :(

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 09:26:04 AM »

That's the weird thing about communicating via email or on forums, your first reaction is often based on how you're feeling at the moment, not on the writer's intention, with no facial/physical cues to go by. The good side is that you have time to look around and see what's been updated, and change your opinion. The danger comes when you hit the "reply/send" keys too quickly.

And thanks, Pan, for posting vids featuring some of the nastiest guitars ever to appear in public.

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 03:24:19 AM »
The guitars may be nasty (and I agree here), but clearly this shows it's what you do with 'em that counts.
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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2011, 03:09:26 PM »
So he's definitely a bloke then?
I just went with the youtube title.

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2011, 03:31:42 AM »
So he's definitely a bloke then?
I just went with the youtube title.
I think the topless video confirms that, Andy.
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Offline Stumblin

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »
So he's definitely a bloke then?
I just went with the youtube title.
I think the topless video confirms that, Andy.
Ah. I haven't seen that one.
Now I'm not sure I want to...

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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 04:56:12 AM »
Ah. I haven't seen that one.
It's the top one in Pan's set of three up above.
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Re: Botswana Ronnie's Playing
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 06:57:56 AM »
Ah. I haven't seen that one.
It's the top one in Pan's set of three up above.
I guess you're right, thatdoes kind of clinch it. Thanks. Must take brain in for service...

 


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